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Social Care

Opposition day on Wednesday, 25 October 2017, in the House of Commons, led by Andrew Gwynne and Baroness Keeley. The answering members were Marcus Jones and Jackie Doyle-Price.
Third opposition day debate (part one). Agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
630 cc312-358 
Session
2017-19
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Adult social care: a pre-Budget report. Communities and Local Government Committee eighth report with formal minutes.
Tuesday, 28 February 2017
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Adult social care. Communities and Local Government Committee ninth report with formal minutes.
Monday, 27 March 2017
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Opposition Day Debate: Social Care
Friday, 20 October 2017
Research briefings
Social Care
Thursday, 7 December 2017
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Keeley | 630 c312 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House notes the Conservative Party’s manifesto commitment to a fun...

Kelvin Hopkins | 630 c312 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is raising a very important issue, which is leading to a lot of suffering among el...


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Baroness Keeley | 630 cc312-3 (Link to this contribution)

I will talk about how the Labour party will take forward proposals on the future of social care. ...

Kevin Hollinrake | 630 c313 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady refers to unpaid carers. Labour’s motion references the Communities and Local Gover...

Baroness Keeley | 630 c313 (Link to this contribution)

I will come on later to discuss how we should proceed and whether we should proceed on a cross-pa...

Mark Harper | 630 c313 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the hon. Lady’s tone in this debate. It is very valuable. I know that she has taken an ...

Baroness Keeley | 630 cc313-4 (Link to this contribution)

We will come on to that. If the right hon. Gentleman wants to get into the mess that his party ma...

Kelvin Hopkins | 630 c314 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend refers again to local authority care homes. In my constituency, three superb local...

Baroness Keeley | 630 c314 (Link to this contribution)

It is very important that we bear in mind that the 1.45 million workforce in care will have been ...

Kate Green | 630 c314 (Link to this contribution)

As my hon. Friend knows, in my constituency, which neighbours hers, we have a real problem in rec...

Baroness Keeley | 630 c314 (Link to this contribution)

That is absolutely the case. In fact, in a recent meeting with Unison, I was told that, in our ar...

Huw Merriman | 630 c314 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady talks about a squeeze in funding. On that basis, does she agree that it would be ri...

Baroness Keeley | 630 cc314-5 (Link to this contribution)

No, I do not agree with the hon. Gentleman. That is one of the reasons why his party’s dementia t...

Jack Dromey | 630 c315 (Link to this contribution)

At last, the Government and Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs have acknowledged that care workers...

Baroness Keeley | 630 c315 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree, and it was helpful of my hon. Friend to make that point. The sleep-ins issue ...

Kelvin Hopkins | 630 c315 (Link to this contribution)

I do apologise for intervening so often. Does my hon. Friend agree, as my hon. Friend the Member ...

Baroness Keeley | 630 cc316-7 (Link to this contribution)

As I said earlier, I will come to our proposals; I do not want to jump around in my speech too mu...

Huw Merriman | 630 c317 (Link to this contribution)

The social care and hospital budgets have been merged in East Sussex, where my constituency is. A...

Baroness Keeley | 630 cc317-8 (Link to this contribution)

My local authority has the most advanced example of an integrated care organisation in the countr...

Kate Green | 630 c318 (Link to this contribution)

I am glad my hon. Friend has mentioned younger adults. Does she agree that investing in the care ...

Baroness Keeley | 630 c318 (Link to this contribution)

Very much so. I thank my hon. Friend for making that point. It is concerning that planned consult...

Lord Mackinlay of Richborough | 630 c318 (Link to this contribution)

I am always very impressed by the hon. Lady’s knowledge in this area, but just to clarify, did I ...

Baroness Keeley | 630 c319 (Link to this contribution)

I am obviously coming to the end of my speech, but I recommend that the hon. Gentleman, if he is ...

Baroness Keeley | 630 c319 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am just going to finish.

Our motion asks for action to make sure the care sector gets...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c319 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the opportunity to respond in this debate. It gives the Government an opportuni...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 cc319-320 (Link to this contribution)

They all have the best of motivations in providing care, and we should celebrate the work they do...

Rebecca Pow | 630 c320 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for raising that issue, because we should not be so negative about this area...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c320 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend highlights just some of the many examples up and down the country, but we should n...

Jack Dromey | 630 c320 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is right to say that there are none so noble as those who care. However, may I press...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 cc320-1 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman raises an extremely important point that I am actively thinking about. He is a...

Judith Cummins | 630 c321 (Link to this contribution)

At least 60% of those receiving social care in the home and 70% of those in care homes are people...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c321 (Link to this contribution)

I invite the House to reflect on what the hon. Lady has said, because that is exactly the issue t...

Desmond Swayne | 630 c321 (Link to this contribution)

Am I right in thinking that under current statute law, a cap of £72,500 will apply from the finan...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c321 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is indeed correct.

The ageing population presents one of our nation’s ...

Mark Harper | 630 c321 (Link to this contribution)

In a spirit of cross-party consensus, may I add my support to the issue raised by the hon. Member...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 cc321-2 (Link to this contribution)

I could not agree more. I share my right hon. Friend’s support for the hon. Lady’s comments. Ther...

Baroness Keeley | 630 c322 (Link to this contribution)

It is very important that we have got to this point today, because very many organisations and in...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c322 (Link to this contribution)

There needs to be a separate work stream because it is connected to the desire to get more people...

Mark Harper | 630 c322 (Link to this contribution)

Picking up the point about the work being separate but parallel, in thinking about how we are goi...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c322 (Link to this contribution)

Again, I agree with everything that my right hon. Friend says.

To reassure the hon. Member ...

Kate Green | 630 c322 (Link to this contribution)

I am glad that we are spending time on this subject. The Minister will recognise, I am sure, that...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c322 (Link to this contribution)

I could not put it better myself. Necessarily, the system will always focus more on those with th...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c323 (Link to this contribution)

I will take one more intervention, but I really do need to make progress.

Tracy Brabin | 630 c323 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for giving way. Can she give me some advice for my constituent—a mother with...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c323 (Link to this contribution)

I am not very impressed by the tale that the hon. Lady describes, but I would like to look into i...

Kevin Hollinrake | 630 c323 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister refers to a number of options that the Government will consider. Will they also cons...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c323 (Link to this contribution)

I agree that we want to learn from examples in other countries. As I have said, the spirit of the...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c324 (Link to this contribution)

I must make some progress, because I have taken many interventions. I do apologise.

Adult s...

Baroness Keeley | 630 c324 (Link to this contribution)

This is an important point. Our motion mentions the need to close the funding gap, which is not £...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c324 (Link to this contribution)

I do not accept that. Let us recognise that this has been hard in the past. We have made money av...

Baroness Keeley | 630 c324 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister accept that the Government are providing less funding for social care than they...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c325 (Link to this contribution)

I think it matters a great deal that we have made £9.25 billion available.

Mark Harper | 630 c325 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister give way on the funding issue?

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c325 (Link to this contribution)

I need to make progress. I apologise to my right hon. Friend.

On delayed transfers of care,...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c325 (Link to this contribution)

I must make progress. Secondly, we put in place a comprehensive sector-led support offer. In earl...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 cc325-6 (Link to this contribution)

I have limited time, and I really must get this improvement on the record.

The package also...

Liz Kendall | 630 c326 (Link to this contribution)

Leicestershire County Council fears that it could have £22 million removed from its budget becaus...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 cc326-7 (Link to this contribution)

I reject the suggestion that there will be any kind of fine. The £22 million that the hon. Lady t...

Baroness Keeley | 630 c327 (Link to this contribution)

Is the Minister saying that revising an allocation is not a fine? When an allocation is revised—p...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c327 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but that is not the case. The money will be retained by local government, but we will...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c327 (Link to this contribution)

I have already taken too much time.

The measures I have set out have given our hard-working...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 630 cc327-8 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Before I call the hon. Member for Central Ayrshire (Dr Whitford), who is speaking for the ...

Philippa Whitford | 630 cc328-9 (Link to this contribution)

We have all seen the figures about everyone getting older. If we look over the lifetime of the NH...

Christine Jardine | 630 c329 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is painting quite a rosy picture of the social care system in Scotland, but does sh...

Philippa Whitford | 630 cc329-330 (Link to this contribution)

I totally accept that the position is not entirely rosy. I said many times in the Chamber before ...

Sarah Wollaston | 630 cc330-1 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Central Ayrshire (Dr Whitford) and I particularly ...

Liz Kendall | 630 cc331-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a privilege to follow the Chair of the Health Committee, and I shall pick up on some of the...

Maggie Throup | 630 cc332-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow my fellow east midlands MP, the hon. Member for Leicester West (Liz Ke...

Jo Platt | 630 cc333-4 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for allowing me to speak in this important debate.

As I am...

James Morris | 630 cc334-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Leigh (Jo Platt).

I think that there is a co...

Thelma Walker | 630 cc335-6 (Link to this contribution)

I begin with these words:

“The moral test of government is how that government treats those...

Derek Thomas | 630 cc336-7 (Link to this contribution)

I concur with pretty much everything said this afternoon. As an MP who recently fought a marginal...

Gill Furniss | 630 cc337-9 (Link to this contribution)

Nearly every day, my office is introduced to a new case in which a constituent and his or her fam...

Andrew Selous | 630 cc339-340 (Link to this contribution)

As part of my self-imposed induction into membership of the Health Committee, I undertook a tour ...

Mohammad Yasin | 630 cc340-1 (Link to this contribution)

It is an honour to follow my constituency neighbour, the hon. Member for South West Bedfordshire ...

Marcus Fysh | 630 cc341-2 (Link to this contribution)

Our ageing population is undoubtedly one of the challenges of our age, and I am proud of what we ...

Tracy Brabin | 630 cc342-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this most important debate. I would like to thank m...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 630 c343 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I am afraid that I am going to have to cut the time limit on Back-Bench speeches to three ...

Helen Whately | 630 cc343-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that all of us who have been out and about with care workers in our constituencies have...

Helen Whately | 630 c344 (Link to this contribution)

I am really sorry, but I cannot take any interventions. I have been asked not to.

Most sign...

Faisal Rashid | 630 cc344-5 (Link to this contribution)

Under the Conservative Government, social care is in crisis. That is clear to almost everyone in ...

Kelly Tolhurst | 630 cc345-6 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for calling me to speak in this debate on a subject that is vita...

James Frith | 630 c346 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to speak in this Opposition day debate, and I thank colleagues for bringing it t...

Huw Merriman | 630 cc346-7 (Link to this contribution)

East Sussex has the second-highest proportion of over 85-year-olds in the country, and that numbe...

Laura Smith | 630 cc347-8 (Link to this contribution)

Social care has been pushed into a state of emergency. A report by the CQC in July found that one...

Vicky Ford | 630 cc348-9 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to speak on the extremely importan...

Mike Amesbury | 630 cc349-350 (Link to this contribution)

The benchmark of a civil society is how it treats its elderly, its vulnerable and those who need ...

Rachel Maclean | 630 c350 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the contributions from Members on both sides of the House today in thi...

Preet Kaur Gill | 630 cc350-1 (Link to this contribution)

We have heard that the Local Government Association has estimated that adult social care faces a ...

Kevin Hollinrake | 630 cc351-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Birmingham, Edgbaston (Preet Kaur Gill), who made ...

Wendy Morton | 630 c352 (Link to this contribution)

As the Minister clearly set out at the start of her speech, it is right and proper that we recogn...

Christine Jardine | 630 cc352-3 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for allowing me to speak in this important debate. With the 70th...

Andrew Gwynne | 630 c353 (Link to this contribution)

We have had a good and full debate. I wish to thank the 25 Back-Bench colleagues who have contrib...

Andrew Gwynne | 630 c353 (Link to this contribution)

Let me finish. I will let the hon. Lady in if she wants to apologise.

It is a play on words...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 630 c353 (Link to this contribution)

I need to remind the hon. Gentleman that the only money that we can spend is that that we collect...

Andrew Gwynne | 630 cc353-5 (Link to this contribution)

I pay tribute to councillors who are making very difficult decisions under very tightly constrain...

Marcus Jones | 630 cc355-6 (Link to this contribution)

This has been a wide-ranging and important debate on one of the most important social issues and ...

Marcus Jones | 630 c356 (Link to this contribution)

I will in a moment, but I want to make a little more progress and mention some of the people who ...

Baroness Keeley | 630 c357 (Link to this contribution)

If the Minister values care, would he comment on untrained members of the public being offered £1...

Marcus Jones | 630 cc357-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is important that we always have workers who are trained, and we are providing care in good-qu...

Baroness Keeley | 630 c358 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. Again we see the Government refusing to vote on a moti...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 630 c358 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I cannot hear what the hon. Lady at the Dispatch Box is saying, and she is speaking to me....

Baroness Keeley | 630 c358 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Again, we see the Government abstaining—refusing to vote on a mo...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 630 c358 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady has taken this opportunity to make the points that she wishes to make, and the Hous...

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