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European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 13 March 2017, in the House of Commons, led by David Davis. The answering member was Keir Starmer.
Programme motion (No. 2) on proceedings on consideration of Lords amendments and subsequent stages. Agreed to on divisions (331 to 102). Lords amendments considered. Queen's consent signified. Motion to disagree with Lords amendment 1, discussed with motion to disagree with Lords amendment 2, agreed to on division (335 to 287). Lords amendment 1 accordingly disagreed to. Motion to disagree with Lords amendment 2 agreed to on division (331 to 286). Lords amendment 2 accordingly disagreed to. Motion that a Committee be appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their amendments 1 and 2. Agreed to on question. Committee reported Reasons and these were agreed to. Message to the Lords to communicate said Reasons with the Bill.
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
623 cc34-72 
Session
2016-17
Legislative stage
Lords amendments
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Bill 2016-17. Lords amendments.
Wednesday, 8 March 2017
Bills
House of Commons
PARLIAMENT IN THE 21ST CENTURY
Wednesday, 15 March 2017
Early day motions
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
David Davis | 623 c38 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That this House disagrees with Lords amendment 1.

John Bercow | 623 c38 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss Lords amendment 2, and Government motion to disagree.<...


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David Davis | 623 c38 (Link to this contribution)

We introduced the most straightforward possible Bill necessary to enact the referendum result and...

David Davis | 623 c38 (Link to this contribution)

—after I have given way to the right hon. Gentleman.

Alex Salmond | 623 c38 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State will have heard that many Members in this House, and a huge majority in th...

David Davis | 623 c39 (Link to this contribution)

If the right hon. Gentleman will forgive me, I will come to the detail of the answer to that late...

David Davis | 623 c39 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to my hon. Friend, but, as many Members wish to speak and time is tight, I will l...

David TC Davies | 623 c39 (Link to this contribution)

As somebody who is married to an EU citizen without a British passport, may I say that I wholehea...

David Davis | 623 c39 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend both for his intervention and for warming up the House.

European cit...

David Davis | 623 c39 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way in a moment.

However, the European Union has been clear that we cannot open...

David Davis | 623 c40 (Link to this contribution)

I did undertake to give way to the hon. Member for Swansea West (Geraint Davies), but then I will...

Geraint Davies | 623 c40 (Link to this contribution)

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware of the survey by the General Medical Council that shows that tw...

David Davis | 623 c40 (Link to this contribution)

I hear what the hon. Gentleman says. As I have said before, these issues are serious and importan...

Nigel Evans | 623 c40 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to hear what my right hon. Friend has had to say about prioritising the negotiatio...

David Davis | 623 c40 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a good point. It may well be that we need treaty change to put in law the gu...

David Davis | 623 c40 (Link to this contribution)

Please forgive me for a moment.

That is very dependent of course on the commitment not just...

David Davis | 623 cc40-1 (Link to this contribution)

Forgive me, but I do have to make some progress.

The proposed amendment may well force the ...

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 623 c41 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Secretary of State give way?

David Davis | 623 c41 (Link to this contribution)

In a second.

I want to reassure people that Parliament will have a clear opportunity to deb...

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 623 c41 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the Secretary of State for giving way. This Government’s track record on co...

David Davis | 623 c41 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady knows me very well, and I think—

David Davis | 623 c41 (Link to this contribution)

That is the point. It is, frankly, incredible to me that anybody would imagine that I, of all peo...

Helen Goodman | 623 c41 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Secretary of State for giving way. If he is so confident about this, why can...

David Davis | 623 c41 (Link to this contribution)

As I said last week, because it is unnecessary. When a Minister gives an undertaking at this Disp...

David Davis | 623 c42 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not give way.

On the more general point about votes—and I say this with some per...

Baroness Morgan of Cotes | 623 c42 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is a Member of long standing in this House, and he recognises—as, I think, o...

David Davis | 623 c42 (Link to this contribution)

I reiterate the point: of course, Parliament can, if it wishes, have a vote and debate on any iss...

John Redwood | 623 c42 (Link to this contribution)

Is that not exactly the point? It would completely cripple the Government in trying to get a real...

David Davis | 623 c42 (Link to this contribution)

That point brings me to subsection (4), so let me deal with that in a little more detail. This ne...

Stephen Kinnock | 623 c42 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is asking us to take him at his word—on trust. Given the record of the Conservative ...

David Davis | 623 cc42-3 (Link to this contribution)

I said before, and I will say it again: I take statements at this Dispatch Box as binding.

...

Dominic Grieve | 623 c43 (Link to this contribution)

No one in this House, as far as I am aware, wishes to fetter the Government’s hands in negotiatio...

David Davis | 623 cc43-4 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. and learned—and old—Friend makes a good point. The simple truth here, however, as I...

David Davis | 623 c44 (Link to this contribution)

Will hon. Members forgive me if I do not give way, because I am coming to the end of my comments?...

Keir Starmer | 623 c44 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support both of the amendments that have been passed in the other place. They started l...

Stephen Doughty | 623 c44 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. and learned Friend give way?

Keir Starmer | 623 cc44-5 (Link to this contribution)

I will make some progress because lots of Members want to speak, and the more I give way now, the...

Charlie Elphicke | 623 c45 (Link to this contribution)

I have listened carefully to the argument the hon. and learned Gentleman is making. Four million ...

Keir Starmer | 623 c45 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that intervention: let me deal with it straight on. Of course there is a shared...

Keir Starmer | 623 c45 (Link to this contribution)

I have not even set out the principle yet. Are we prepared to use one set of people—those who are...

Chris Bryant | 623 c45 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State seeks to persuade us that, simply because he has stated from the Dispatch ...

Keir Starmer | 623 c45 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State said that it was binding so far as he was concerned. That is not the same ...

Lord Field of Birkenhead | 623 c45 (Link to this contribution)

How does my hon. and learned Friend answer the Brexit Secretary’s point that if and when we pass ...

Keir Starmer | 623 c46 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that intervention, but it is important to focus on the words of the amendment, ...

Keir Starmer | 623 c46 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make progress. I have taken interventions on the issue and it would not be fair to ...

Keir Starmer | 623 c46 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make some progress. We should not bring unnecessary uncertainty and distress into t...

Shailesh Vara | 623 c46 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. and learned Gentleman give way?

Keir Starmer | 623 c47 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make some progress.

Labour supports Lords amendment 1 not only because it is ...

Rushanara Ali | 623 c47 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. and learned Friend agree that given our Foreign Secretary’s mixed record—both in com...

Keir Starmer | 623 c47 (Link to this contribution)

I agree. I have said in the House on a number of occasions that the tone that the Government set ...

Keir Starmer | 623 c47 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to move on to the question of the meaningful vote in Lords amendment 2. I remind the H...

Stephen Doughty | 623 c47 (Link to this contribution)

Is my hon. and learned Friend aware of the ICM poll for Avaaz, published in just the past two hou...

Keir Starmer | 623 c47 (Link to this contribution)

I have seen that poll, which is of course important, but this is a matter of principle. This is a...

Bernard Jenkin | 623 c48 (Link to this contribution)

The amendment does not simply give this House the right to vote on these matters; it also gives t...

Keir Starmer | 623 c48 (Link to this contribution)

There is a reason why the amendment spells that out in detail: it is precisely what the Minister ...

Catherine West | 623 c48 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. and learned Friend agree that, given the high level of uncertainty, the only sage an...

Keir Starmer | 623 c48 (Link to this contribution)

I would not put it as “one last chance”. The negotiations will lead first—I hope—to an article 50...

Pat McFadden | 623 c48 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. and learned Friend for giving way. The discussion so far has been about ...

Keir Starmer | 623 cc48-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that intervention. That is my interpretation and it causes me great concern. We...

John Baron | 623 c49 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. and learned Gentleman accept, at least in principle, that this Parliament made a co...

Keir Starmer | 623 c49 (Link to this contribution)

There was one question on the ballot paper, and that was whether we should stay in the EU or leav...

Oliver Letwin | 623 cc49-50 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with what my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State said about amendment 1, but I wish ...

William Cash | 623 c50 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree with my right hon. Friend, and there is a further point. When it comes to the co...

Oliver Letwin | 623 cc50-1 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree with my hon. Friend, but it seems to me that for this purpose we do not even nee...

John Redwood | 623 c51 (Link to this contribution)

Is that not evidenced by Lord Pannick himself arguing seriously in court that the letter is irrev...

Oliver Letwin | 623 c51 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my right hon. Friend, although the Supreme Court went to great pains not to refer th...

Stephen Gethins | 623 cc51-2 (Link to this contribution)

This is a very timely debate about amendments that go to the heart of the situation in which we f...

Mhairi Black | 623 c52 (Link to this contribution)

Last Friday I met representatives of a major bus company in Scotland, who said that 17% of the co...

Stephen Gethins | 623 c52 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. I want to come on to the point about EU nationals shortl...

Crispin Blunt | 623 c52 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps the hon. Gentleman could tell us, on the same analytical basis, how many jobs would be lo...

Stephen Gethins | 623 c52 (Link to this contribution)

That is the extraordinary basis on which this is debated. My honourable colleague from the Foreig...

Charlie Elphicke | 623 c52 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Stephen Gethins | 623 c52 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will make progress.

If we pass the Bill today, we will be passing this Government a b...

David Rutley | 623 c53 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Stephen Gethins | 623 c53 (Link to this contribution)

Not at the moment.

It is the House of Lords, of all places, that has given us another oppor...

Sammy Wilson | 623 c53 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Stephen Gethins | 623 c53 (Link to this contribution)

Not at the moment.

The lack of respect for the devolved Administrations, and the promises t...

Joanna Cherry | 623 c53 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is talking about the human element for EU nationals. On Friday afternoon, my const...

Stephen Gethins | 623 c53 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. and learned Friend for raising that point, which is important. Many of us have li...

Nigel Evans | 623 c53 (Link to this contribution)

As the hon. Gentleman knows, I feel very passionate about the fact that EU citizens living in the...

Stephen Gethins | 623 c54 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes my point for me: the Scottish Government are looking to protect Scotland...

Anna Soubry | 623 cc54-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to keep my comments as brief as possible so that as many Members as possible can speak...

John Baron | 623 c55 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Anna Soubry | 623 c55 (Link to this contribution)

Because I am being generous, I will.

John Baron | 623 c55 (Link to this contribution)

But does my right hon. Friend not accept the simple point that this place made a contract with th...

Anna Soubry | 623 c55 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend forgets that there was just one question on the ballot paper—did we want to remain...

Anna Soubry | 623 c55 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend says “So?” I can assure him that it is not only me but our Prime Minister who take...

Anna Soubry | 623 cc55-6 (Link to this contribution)

Northern Ireland. The right hon. Gentleman needs no lessons on my support for the efforts and wor...

Paul Farrelly | 623 c56 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Lady agree that this is not only an issue of principle, in regard to parliamentary ...

John Bercow | 623 c56 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Interventions must be brief. We have very little time.

Anna Soubry | 623 c56 (Link to this contribution)

I want to close by saying this, Mr Speaker. The idea that, by doing the right thing and allowing ...

Nick Clegg | 623 cc56-7 (Link to this contribution)

I must declare an interest, because the political is personal for me on the issue of EU citizens ...

John Redwood | 623 c57 (Link to this contribution)

The question mark has been placed there by the EU, not by this Government. If the EU said today t...

Nick Clegg | 623 c57 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman would start blaming bad traffic on the EU if he could. It is absurd. We ...

Nick Clegg | 623 c57 (Link to this contribution)

Remind me, was freeing ourselves from red tape not one of the principal reasons why the right hon...

Nick Clegg | 623 cc57-8 (Link to this contribution)

I must make progress; there is very little time.

Turning to the other, perhaps more meaning...

Mark Harper | 623 c58 (Link to this contribution)

It is a particular pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Sheffield, Hallam (Mr Clegg), as ...

Edward Leigh | 623 c58 (Link to this contribution)

The simple truth is this: deal or no deal, vote or no vote, positive vote or negative vote, this ...

Mark Harper | 623 cc58-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that.

Let me now deal with the two Lords amendments tha...

John Redwood | 623 c59 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that if we get to the point where all our proceedings, debates an...

Mark Harper | 623 cc59-60 (Link to this contribution)

That point is very well made and it leads me on to my next point. There is another group of EU na...

Joanna Cherry | 623 c60 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Mark Harper | 623 c60 (Link to this contribution)

I hope the hon. and learned Lady is able to confirm to the House that she said that.

Joanna Cherry | 623 c60 (Link to this contribution)

I am very happy to confirm exactly what my constituent said, as the right hon. Gentleman has brou...

Mark Harper | 623 c60 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased that the hon. and learned Lady made that point. Had she listened to my remarks, she ...

John Baron | 623 c60 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Mark Harper | 623 cc60-1 (Link to this contribution)

If my hon. Friend will forgive me, I shall move on to Lords amendment 2, because I am conscious t...

Anna Soubry | 623 c61 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the opportunity to make myself clear. I said that if we do not get a deal, the ...

Mark Harper | 623 c61 (Link to this contribution)

I listened carefully to my right hon. Friend. As I have said before in the House, the referendum ...

John Bercow | 623 c61 (Link to this contribution)

Only 40 minutes remain. I am keen to call as many hon. and right hon. Members as possible, but I ...

Hilary Benn | 623 c61 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Member for Forest of Dean (Mr Harper) argued that we should not support the two am...

Chuka Umunna | 623 c61 (Link to this contribution)

Is the Government’s position on EU citizens not based on a fiction? If they did not grant EU citi...

Hilary Benn | 623 c62 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend entirely. The whole House knows that that course of action cannot be ...

Seema Kennedy | 623 cc62-3 (Link to this contribution)

I campaigned for remain in last year’s referendum, believing that it was in the best medium-term ...

Seema Kennedy | 623 c63 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not give way, because there are so many Members who wish to speak.

The Bill befo...

Seema Kennedy | 623 c63 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Lady listens, I will elucidate.

The preconditions required would mean that what...

Seema Kennedy | 623 c63 (Link to this contribution)

I have already said that I will not give way.

Lord Hill, who is a man of great experience i...

Alex Salmond | 623 cc63-5 (Link to this contribution)

I have only three points to make in the time that I have available.

When my hon. Friend the...

John Bercow | 623 c65 (Link to this contribution)

Order. With extreme brevity now from both sides of the House, I call Sir William Cash.

William Cash | 623 c65 (Link to this contribution)

First, this is a very simple Bill that is merely about notification and triggering. It is as simp...

Emma Reynolds | 623 cc65-6 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to make two brief points. First, if we do not deal, now or in the next three months, with ...

John Bercow | 623 c66 (Link to this contribution)

A three-minute limit on each Back-Bench speech will now apply.

Dominic Grieve | 623 cc66-7 (Link to this contribution)

I want to support the Government in carrying out an efficient and effective Brexit but, after lis...

Chris Leslie | 623 cc67-8 (Link to this contribution)

I commend the right hon. and learned Member for Beaconsfield (Mr Grieve) for his speech. Notwiths...

Iain Duncan Smith | 623 cc68-9 (Link to this contribution)

Under your instructions, Mr Speaker, I am going to be brief. I want to deal specifically with the...

Helen Goodman | 623 c69 (Link to this contribution)

I wish to speak particularly to amendment 2, which is very similar to new clauses 99 and 110, whi...

Dominic Grieve | 623 c69 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady makes a very good point, because in the last debate we had, we discussed the possib...

Helen Goodman | 623 c69 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the right hon. and learned Gentleman for that intervention.

The point...

John Bercow | 623 c70 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I would like to accommodate a number of other colleagues. It is not compulsory to speak fo...

Julian Lewis | 623 c70 (Link to this contribution)

Until the right hon. Member for Gordon (Alex Salmond) spoke, I was afraid I was the only person w...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 623 c70 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Julian Lewis | 623 c70 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not.

The way forward would have been for the EU to say straightaway, “Yes, you’r...

Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 623 c70 (Link to this contribution)

I shall vote against all the amendments on the simple basis that this Bill has one purpose and on...

John Bercow | 623 c70 (Link to this contribution)

Let us try for two speeches of two minutes each.

Dominic Raab | 623 c71 (Link to this contribution)

I will vote against the amendments tonight. I want briefly to address amendment 2 on the final vo...

John Bercow | 623 c71 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State would like a minute to wind up, with the leave of the House. I am bound to...

Caroline Lucas | 623 cc71-2 (Link to this contribution)

We live in very strange times. The campaign to leave the EU was based to a very great extent on t...

David Davis | 623 c72 (Link to this contribution)

With the leave of the House, in 60 seconds, Mr Speaker. I start by thanking hon. Members for thei...

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