European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Bill
Thursday, 26 January 2017
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On a point of order, Ms Engel, I would be grateful if you would explain not only to the Committee...
I think the hon. Gentleman knows the answer to his question. This is very early for points of ord...
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I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
New clause 18—New Treaties with t...
In speaking to new clause 1, I will touch on other new clauses in the bucket. As we go through th...
Is it the case that if all the hon. and learned Gentleman’s proposals are rejected by the Governm...
I am not sure how helpful interventions like that are to a debate, which is actually really impor...
My hon. and learned Friend is right to point out that progress has been made, but does he agree t...
I am grateful for that intervention, and I will come to that, but the central theme of the case I...
I am grateful to the Secretary of State, and I think that this may be helpful—[Interruption.] For...
Minister, I am very grateful for that intervention. That is a huge and very important concession ...
Would the hon. and learned Gentleman—I nearly said “Friend”; I will have to be careful—agree that...
I am grateful for that intervention, and I do agree that we all have a responsibility to bring th...
I am dealing with this intervention, if you don’t mind.
What is significant about what has ...
I welcome, as my hon. and learned Friend does, the concession from the Government Benches, but do...
At the moment, I agree that we should have as big a say as possible on all of this, but I do not ...
While I echo what the hon. and learned Gentleman has said, would he agree that instantly leaping ...
I am grateful for the intervention, and I accept that point. Far be it from me to say what the pr...
If this is indeed a significant concession, should it not be added to the Bill so that it can be ...
I recognise the strength of that point. There are of course other opportunities to examine what h...
The hon. and learned Gentleman is making a fair point. I think he and I would accept, as advocate...
I am grateful for that intervention. When an assurance is given in a debate such as this, it is a...
I came into the Chamber with the full intention of supporting new clause 1, and I still feel that...
That is in the hands of the Minister, but I certainly take the point.
Let me make some prog...
I rather agree with the right hon. Member for Broxtowe (Anna Soubry) and my right hon. Friend the...
I hear what my hon. Friend says. I think we will have to wait to hear from the Minister.
So...
My hon. and learned Friend may have heard what the Minister said in more detail than I did. Was i...
No, and we need to press the Minister on that when he rises to speak.
The hon. and learned Gentleman has ably outlined the Government’s position to date. He has ably s...
Order. Could I ask that interventions be a bit more brief, because we have only four hours for th...
I am grateful for the intervention by the hon. and learned Lady. It would be helpful if we had bo...
On a point of order, Ms Engel. Given that, as the hon. and learned Member for Edinburgh South Wes...
The Minister will be speaking later, and I am sure that he will explain then.
I am sure that the Minister hears what is being said. What has been said, today is significant—th...
I am going to make some progress, because I barely got through two or three sentences before taki...
Does my hon. and learned Friend agree that we must consider not just the timing of the vote but w...
I am grateful for that intervention. I think the exchange that my hon. Friend has referred to is ...
Will the hon. and learned Gentleman give way?
I am going to press on, because I am not sure that my trying to explain what the Minister is goin...
If it is of any assistance to the shadow Secretary of State and to the Committee, may I say that ...
I have made the case for accountability and scrutiny, I have made the case for a White Paper, I h...
I had hoped to speak at the end of the debate, but it may be of assistance to the Committee if I ...
Will the Minister give way?
I will just finish the sentence, because it is rather important. The Government will bring forwar...
Will the Minister stress to the Committee again that that applies to both the withdrawal agreemen...
I must preface what I am about to say by saying that we do not expect that we will not achieve su...
This point goes back to the conversation we had yesterday about the importance of transitional ar...
What the hon. Lady says is, of course, true. An agreement has to be negotiated by two sides, and ...
I am grateful to the Minister for speaking at this stage and enabling us to have the process that...
I fully appreciate the points that my right hon. and learned Friend is making. This is clearly go...
May I first deal with the point that my right hon. and learned Friend has made? After I have done...
After we trigger article 50, the EU27 will decide a deal in their interests. If that deal comes t...
I would have thought that, in the circumstance that this House had voted down the agreement, it w...
Just for clarification, I think the Minister said that there would be a vote on, as it were, the ...
Yes—before the agreement is finally concluded, in other words. That is the intention.
I want to come back to the point made by the right hon. Member for Sheffield, Hallam (Mr Clegg) a...
I implore Members to keep interventions shorter. They are very, very long—they are little speeche...
My right hon. Friend is right. Article 50 states that the negotiations for the withdrawal agreeme...
The Minister raised our hopes for a second, and then I felt myself deflate as he said that if thi...
It would depend on precisely what was agreed, but if there were no agreement at all, which I thin...
Can the Minister clarify a point that was raised by the shadow Secretary of State and that is imp...
It is very hard to see what meaningful vote could be given if there had been no deal at all. Havi...
The Minister is inflating and deflating people as he goes along. May we get back to the manuscrip...
We are debating the issue at considerable length now. I have, on behalf of the Government, made w...
Is not the problem that the Government and the House have the fact that we do not know at what st...
My right hon. and learned Friend makes a very fair point. As we proceed, we have to keep remindin...
I give way to the right hon. Member for Wolverhampton South East (Mr McFadden).
Timing is significant only if it further empowers Parliament to have a meaningful say on the nego...
I think that I have already answered that extremely clearly. There will be a meaningful vote. The...
I will take one further intervention, from the hon. Member for Streatham (Mr Umunna).
The point is that if this is to be a meaningful concession, the House needs the opportunity to se...
I hear what the hon. Gentleman says, but frankly I cannot think of a greater signal of weakness t...
I would like to make further progress. I have taken a large number of interventions and I am sure...
I give way for the final time to the right hon. Member for Leeds Central (Hilary Benn).
When the Minister first revealed his concession to the shadow Secretary of State, there was a bit...
I will, if that will be of assistance to the right hon. Gentleman, although I did, in fact, read ...
I will not take any further interventions; I have already been more than generous.
I turn t...
I have a very brief question for the Minister. If the European Parliament votes down the deal, Eu...
With huge respect, I am not entirely sure that the right hon. Gentleman understands the process. ...
May I tempt my right hon. Friend to give way one more time?
I am afraid not; I have already been very generous.
I was reminding the House of what the S...
I rise to speak to new clause 180 and amendment 50, in my name and those of my hon. Friends. I al...
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Not just now.
We thank the Minister for his announcement and the apparent concession. We do...
I assure the right hon. Gentleman that I am very content being able to speak in the House on thes...
At least the right hon. Gentleman is consistent: when he was Chief Whip he did not want detailed ...
I agree with the right hon. Gentleman about a manuscript amendment—it would make things a lot cle...
I very much agree with the hon. Lady, and she conveniently leads me right on to my next point.
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
In a minute or two.
The hon. Lady’s point goes to the heart of the dilemma the House will f...
Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that triggering article 50 on the basis of its possible revoc...
The hon. Gentleman promised me that he would change the motorway when he next made that point, bu...
I promised the right hon. Member for Wokingham (John Redwood), who entered the House on the same ...
I am very grateful. Perhaps I can clarify the matter by saying that the Attorney General was very...
I give way to the former Attorney General.
The concession of the Government in the Supreme Court was merely for the purpose of those proceed...
The two Members should talk among themselves before they come to the House with an agreed positio...
The right hon. Gentleman is pursuing this matter relentlessly. Will he explain why he is doing so...
To be told I am pursuing something relentlessly by the hon. Gentleman is a compliment that I shal...
Is not one of the problems with the concession that has just been made that it tacks together in ...
The hon. Lady makes a very astute point, but I think the issue is even more fundamental: we have ...
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Not just now.
We make an effort to solve the problem in new clause 180, which we call the r...
I agree with most of what the right hon. Gentleman is saying. It is very important to have an ame...
The hon. Gentleman makes an astute point. There is a lot to be learned about a negotiating positi...
I agree fully with the right hon. Member for Gordon (Alex Salmond) that we should not wish to do ...
Why is my right hon. Friend so worried about the House of Commons having a vote? His analysis mig...
I support the Government offering this House a vote. They cannot deny the House a vote—if the Hou...
The right hon. Gentleman is, as ever, making an articulate case from his point of view about the ...
I do not disagree with that at all. I am very happy for the House to have a vote on whether the n...
If the right hon. Gentleman wants to maximise negotiating leverage, would it not be better to del...
I do not think we should have two referendums on whether or not we leave. The issue is our future...
Is the right hon. Gentleman not assuming that, as we walk into the room, all the people we are ne...
The hon. Gentleman has won that argument. We will have a vote in this House on whether we accept ...
Despite the right hon. Gentleman’s certainty about irrevocability, the person who drafted the cla...
I have attempted to give the House a clear definition and to show that there is good legal preced...
I remind the right hon. Gentleman that the Supreme Court did not rule on the matter.
It clearly did rule on the matter. It found against the Government because it deemed article 50 t...
I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for giving way on this supreme red herring. It does not mat...
I thank my hon. Friend for that helpful intervention, although there is this legal wrangle. It is...
My right hon. Friend is a man of courage with a long, fine history of supporting the sovereignty ...
That is exactly the vote we had on Second Reading. If Members are at all worried about leaving th...
May I take the right hon. Gentleman back to his comments on his blogpost in November 2012, when h...
No, not on this occasion, because 2012 was 2012, and we were trying all sorts of things to get us...
On a referendum, it depends what the options are. The hon. Member for Westmorland and Lonsdale (T...
I agree with that.
People are trying to make these negotiations far more complicated and lo...
I rise to speak to new clauses 28, 54 and 99, standing in my name and those of other right hon. a...
Will the hon. Lady give way?
I will make a little more progress, if the right hon. Gentleman does not mind.
The right ho...
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for tabling and speaking to this new clause, which I think is imp...
I may wish to test the will of the Committee on this new clause when we reach the end of the deba...
The hon. Lady said a moment ago that new clause 99 did not seek to delay or derail the leaving pr...
I do not think it does mean that. It would depend on whether or not extra time had been agreed wi...
I am doubly grateful to the hon. Lady. Does she not agree that in the event that we are not given...
I do not think it does, because it leaves open the possibility of the Government’s going back to ...
Does my hon. Friend agree that many of the other 27 countries will be going to their Parliaments ...
I could not agree more with my hon. Friend. We know that Angela Merkel has to get a parliamentary...
Assuming that the Committee agrees to this amendment, that we trigger article 50 on 31 March and ...
My hon. Friend is arguing along the same lines as the right hon. Member for Wokingham—that articl...
The treaty of Lisbon clearly sets out the two-year term. Whether or not article 50 is irrevocable...
I do not think that the threat of the cliff edge is a positive in these negotiations. I note that...
The hon. Lady says that she would like collaboration to support the Government’s negotiations. Do...
In my experience of negotiation, one of the most important things is to understand what the peopl...
May I return the hon. Lady to what she said about the different approaches that European states a...
I do not see this as an opportunity for a seminar on the political institutions of the Federal Re...
I hope the Committee will allow me to mention that today, 7 February, is 25 years to the day sinc...
My hon. Friend said that he had tabled 150 amendments off his own bat. Surely he is contradicting...
I am so glad that my hon. Friend has made that point. The difference between what I was doing in ...
The hon. Gentleman—my next-door neighbour from Stone—is clearly enjoying his days in the sun. Lik...
I can only say that, in our democratic system, six Members to one in the House of Commons, and in...
Unless my memory betrays me, the hon. Gentleman himself was one of the two thirds back in 1975 wh...
That is politics, as the right hon. Gentleman knows only too well, because he has a similar exper...
On a point of order, Ms Engel. Surely new clause 1 is in order; otherwise, we would not be debati...
I do not think that that is a point of order; it is not a matter for the Chair.
I am sure that it is in order. The problem is whether we vote for it, and there are extremely goo...
It is an honour to follow the hon. Member for Stone (Sir William Cash), who has fought his corner...
When the hon. Gentleman said on 11 May last year that this was a “once-in-a-generation decision”,...
As it stands, the Government intend it to be once-in-a-generation opportunity. As the hon. Member...
The hon. Gentleman and I were on the same side in the referendum, but I want to tell him why he i...
If we follow the logic of the hon. Gentleman’s argument, the Minister should not have made his of...
The hon. Gentleman really must correct the record. I did not make the offer in 2012 flippantly or...
In no way do I wish to impugn the right hon. Gentleman’s integrity—I am sure that he meant that o...
If I can make a little progress, I will be grateful.
It is true that this argument began wi...
I will give way to the hon. Member for Cheltenham (Alex Chalk).
I was also a remainer and I regret the result, but does the hon. Gentleman agree with the view of...
We are dealing with many fundamental problems in any event.
Forgive me if I am being pedant...
The hon. Gentleman says that we would reach a cliff edge, but his offer of a referendum involves ...
We are offering the British people an opportunity not only to have the final say on the terms of ...
I want to make a clear point and a little progress.
A few of them are here now, so I want t...
Does the hon. Gentleman share my surprise at the resistance to his perfectly sensible suggestion ...
Once again, the hon. Lady makes an excellent point. It seems utterly bizarre that having claimed ...
The hon. Gentleman will remember that his predecessor produced a leaflet that said only the Liber...
The hon. Gentleman seems to be under the impression that democracy is a one-hit game and that, so...
I have said before that the hon. Gentleman’s approach is like Hotel California: you can check out...
I will come on to that in a moment, but it is not in any way enacting the will of the British peo...
I support the position that the hon. Gentleman articulates with amendment 43 but, in light of the...
The hon. Gentleman continues to make a strong case, and he is bold in putting it across, and not ...
The hon. Gentleman’s argument would have force if the question on 23 June had been to give the Go...
The right hon. Gentleman is quite wrong, because undoubtedly—I have said this very clearly—the ma...
What would happen if we did have a second referendum and the British people rejected the offer? W...
The wording on the ballot paper would be up for discussion, but our vision is that the United Kin...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
I will give way one last time.
Plaid Cymru has no problem supporting the hon. Gentleman’s new clause. If the UK Government have ...
The hon. Gentleman makes a strong point. It troubles me that those who argued for the sovereignty...
I will make some progress because other Members need to get in. The deal must be put to the Briti...
I have given way an awful lot.
The Government are making a choice, one that the British peo...
I am not going to give way, as I have given way many times and I want to bring my remarks to an e...
Let me start by correcting the record. I had something to do with the production of our manifesto...
The alternative is just to instruct the Government to negotiate a better deal. The phrase in the ...
Not at all; at that moment we were a member of the EU and we said yes to the single market. I cam...
I want to clarify that from my point of view it is absolutely clear that this place, Parliament a...
There are two points at issue. First is the question of whether leaving the EU means leaving the ...
I have two concerns about new clause 1. The first is that it is already clear that the Government...
I share my hon. Friend’s preference for not legislating in that respect. In fact, one can go wide...
I have some respect for the right hon. Member for West Dorset (Sir Oliver Letwin), but I have bee...
The hon. Gentleman has given an extraordinarily important clarification of his new clause. As I s...
No. As we saw on Second Reading, it is quite clear to all concerned that we will be leaving the E...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
No, I will not give way, because a lot of hon. Members want to get in.
What was particularl...
One of the things that is troubling me is the principle of equivalence. As I understand it, the E...
I commend the hon. Lady for making an incredibly important point in defence of the sovereignty of...
There is something I do not understand— I have been thinking about it since it was raised by the ...
My understanding is that we remain in the European Union until such time as the article 50 two-ye...
I would like to move on because other hon. Members want to get into this discussion.
The wo...
It is a pleasure to participate in the debate. I agree with one comment that the hon. Member for ...
On a point of clarification, will my right hon. and learned Friend indicate whether he perceives ...
New clause 110 is certainly very well meaning, but I happen to think that there are some problems...
I am grateful to the right hon. and learned Gentleman for giving way while he is taking us throug...
I do not think I agree with that. I do not know what No. 10 may or may not be doing, but I had a ...
The Daily Mirror is reporting that No. 10 has said that all the concession does is give clarity a...
It is absolutely right that the Government have indicated on a number of previous occasions that ...
The right hon. and learned Gentleman is being generous. No.10 is briefing that there is no real c...
I can read what is on the paper. I take the view that this is a significant step forward, but I w...
The House will have its say; the question is about the circumstances in which it has that say and...
With characteristic sagacity, the right hon. Gentleman goes to the heart and nub of the problem. ...
Was it the right hon. and learned Gentleman’s understanding that the Minister said that the deal ...
There are bound to be difficulties because the whole process of negotiations under article 50, as...
My right hon. and learned Friend’s preference is obviously for Parliament to be asked its opinion...
I say for the benefit of other Members that the right hon. and learned Gentleman has had a very l...
I am delighted to hear from my right hon. and learned Friend. I do not think it would necessarily...
My right hon. and learned Friend has played a considerable part in this process. Does he agree th...
I agree entirely with my right hon. Friend. I hope that the Government will listen because, as I ...
My right hon. and learned Friend has thanked the Minister, but I think that the Committee ought t...
I am grateful to my right hon. Friend. He made some of the points that I might have made in his s...
The right hon. and learned Gentleman’s whole speech seems to be predicated on the idea that the G...
I have to say to the hon. Gentleman that I do not know. I actually think that none of us know. We...
It is a genuine pleasure to follow the excellent and characteristically shrewd speech by the righ...
Amendment 44, to be voted on tomorrow, makes provision for a referendum and valuation that does n...
I am pleased with that, and I hope that we will vote on it tomorrow.
I am insisting that we...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
I will not. The right hon. Gentleman has spoken a lot already.
It was deeply destructive fo...
Let me say from the outset that it is really important that we all step back from the way we have...
The right hon. Lady has got to the nub of the issue. I, too, would like new clause 110 to be push...
I agree with much of what the hon. Gentleman says, but I am also reminded of what was said by my ...
The right hon. Lady is making her points with her usual eloquence. Does she agree that another co...
I absolutely agree, and that is exactly the point that many Members across this House are now mak...
The right hon. Lady is making a very honest speech, and I commend her for n her honesty and decen...
I completely agree with the hon. Lady, and this is part of the bringing together, the forming and...
In the case of there being a deal, the Minister has given a clear commitment that the House will ...
I am grateful for that intervention as it gives me the opportunity to make it clear—I am sure the...
I want to take the right hon. Lady back to her earlier remarks about a bad deal, no deal or failu...
I want to abandon this language of failure and success, and I say, with great respect to the hon....
I commend the right hon. Member for Broxtowe (Anna Soubry) for her speech, much of which I agreed...
To be fair to the right hon. Lady, I think she has gone some way towards answering this question....
That would indeed be one way of doing it, with the Government giving Parliament a substantive vot...
Does my right hon. Friend agree that the Government could request an extension to the article 50 ...
Again, that would certainly be one option. My understanding is that if the European Parliament vo...
The right hon. Lady is passionate on this subject. If at the end of the article 50 process—the tw...
I do not think that the new clauses would bind the Government’s hands. I agree that there is a co...
Does the right hon. Lady agree that practically everyone in the House and in the Government would...
I actually do agree with the right hon. Gentleman. We do want tariff-free trade, but he and I wil...
I hesitate to say this, but the House sometimes fails to realise its own powers. If it becomes cl...
Were that the case, it would be Parliament’s responsibility to behave with the common sense that ...
Will the right hon. Lady give way?
I will make some progress, because other Members want to speak.
There are many ways in whic...
It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Normanton, Pontefract and Castleford (Yvette...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
I will make a little progress because other Members want to speak and we are quite far advanced i...
My hon. Friend is providing a careful and interesting analysis, but is not the crux of the matter...
I pay tribute to my hon. Friend the Chair of the Justice Committee and I agree that there should ...
I am going to make a little progress, to be fair to other hon. Members.
There is a second e...
I will not give way, as I am going to make some progress.
The choice on the final deal is c...
My hon. Friend mentioned article 50(3), which does provide for transitional arrangements. It prov...
My right hon. Friend is right in what he says, but if he reads article 50(3), he will see that it...
I am going to make a bit of progress, to be fair to other Members.
In fairness to the previ...
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the Prime Minister’s approach so far, in pandering not to thos...
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention, but say gently to him that between open-door imm...
Order. There are four hon. Members who still want to contribute and who have given their names to...
I will try to be brief.
I am now entering my 17th year in the House. In that time, it is us...
I find myself in rather a strange place because it is very difficult for somebody in my position ...
I agree with my hon. Friend about Parliament’s vital role in scrutinising the Bill. For me, it is...
We can probe, we can ask questions, and we can bring our collective knowledge and wisdom, of whic...
There are two issues at the heart of today’s debate, which is about the role of Parliament in jud...
I do not disagree with the right hon. Gentleman, but I want to emphasise this point. All sorts of...
The new clause is very simple on this point. It asks that in those circumstances the Government w...
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
I do not have much time so I am going to conclude.
The point of all of this is to avoid the...
Order. I am happy to call the right hon. Gentleman if he can speak for only two or three minutes....
I will limit my contribution to a couple of minutes and confine it to a few questions for the Min...
I call Mr David Jones.
Thank you very much indeed, Ms Engel, for giving me a second bite of the cherry.
May I deal...
Will my right hon. Friend give way?
I will, briefly.
I will be brief, for a change. My right hon. Friend has confirmed that the vote will be put to Pa...
What we have sought to do today is to provide clarity, and I hope that, through my previous contr...
Many of us welcome the progress that has been made and my right hon. Friend’s assurances. It is c...
That is absolutely right. The suggestion that the Government would not keep the House informed is...
I will not give way as I have very little time.
New clause 137 would require the Government...
Will the Minister confirm that the Government’s position is to diminish the status of this House ...
That is absolutely ludicrous. The European Parliament’s role comes at the end of the process; it ...
Will the Minister give way?
For the very last time.
Will the Minister abide by the recommendation in the report of the Exiting the European Union Com...
We will, of course, consider all the recommendations of the Select Committee and respond formally...
I have listened carefully to the debate. There are inevitable problems with an 11th-hour concessi...
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
New clause 42—Equality—impact ass...
In addition to speaking to new clause 5, I intend to speak briefly to amendment 11 and new clause...
Does the hon. Gentleman expect any Treasury modelling to concur with that of the Institute for Fi...
The honest answer is that we do not know. As I will come on to mention, other organisations are d...
I am listening to the hon. Gentleman with care. As I understand it, new clause 5 seeks to make th...
To be fair, I dealt with that earlier in my remarks when I said that the new clause is not an att...
Does my hon. Friend agree that if we had official Treasury impact assessments, rather than those ...
My hon. Friend expresses the new clause’s intent perfectly, and I agree with her 100%.
Repu...
The hon. Gentleman has just asserted that the analysis he wants to see will be superior in qualit...
If the hon. Gentleman is right, I would not like to be one of the Ministers negotiating the agree...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
I will make a little progress.
Labour Members look forward to hearing the Minister’s though...
I do not intend to delay the Committee, as most of these amendments are narrow and address the ve...
On the quarterly growth statistics, I understand that even knowing what is happening right now is...
The range of prediction from the Office for Budget Responsibility had nearly a £90 billion margin...
Of course this is not, as the right hon. Gentleman characterises it, going to be a battle of fore...
Yes, but the point is that we will be none the wiser. Members might think that a set of forecasts...
My right hon. Friend is making a very impressive case. [Interruption.] Given the reaction from th...
I agree, and I am tempted to refer to my predecessor, Lord Tebbit, who said, “When they’re scream...
What does he know?
Exactly; he was wrong most of the time, so he has a little knowledge of being wrong, as do many i...
Further to that point, has my right hon. Friend seen the comments from the Bundesverband der Deut...
Exactly. It is interesting that it is only since my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister made her...
I agree entirely with my right hon. Friend, but these new clauses come before any such rational i...
Order. I am the most mild-mannered and tolerant of men, but interventions are becoming slightly o...
Thank you, Sir Roger, for that explanatory intervention. May I say to my colleagues that I am sti...
We have just spoken about the power and the necessity of the City of London. Does my right hon. F...
That is an important point, and it plays hugely into the Government’s hands. It was the head of f...
I thank my right hon. Friend for giving way. He is making a passionate speech. When it comes to f...
I agree. The head of the OBR has said that, in the end, most forecasts are wrong. On that basis, ...
My right hon. Friend is being generous in accepting interventions. He has just talked about a sor...
I will not carry on for much longer, but that is exactly the point. All that will happen if we am...
What if actually everyone in the House—whether they are Brexiteers or remainers—wants the best de...
I say to the hon. Lady, for whom I have a huge degree of respect, that if that were the explicit ...
I thank my right hon. Friend for giving way right at the end of his speech, to which I have liste...
As I have just condemned pretty much every forecast, I will not make that forecast. I will say th...
I am pleased to follow the right hon. Member for Chingford and Woodford Green (Mr Duncan Smith). ...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
I will just make a bit of progress. I will come to the hon. Gentleman in a bit, but I do not want...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I was at a public meeting in one village where people said, “...
That is right, and there are lots of examples of that throughout the country. That is not surpris...
Does my hon. Friend agree that that kind of cynical campaigning gives politics and politicians a ...
That is absolutely right. Those Members seek to hide behind the wording and to claim that it was ...
I have a huge amount of time for the hon. Gentleman, and I like him very much, but seeing as we a...
I am glad the hon. Gentleman raised that point, and I also have a lot of respect for him. However...
The hon. Gentleman is complaining about a slogan on the side of a bus about giving extra money to...
I do not know about the hon. Gentleman’s mote, but this amendment has been drafted so that it is ...
Is my hon. Friend aware of Change Britain’s latest press release where the £350 million a week ha...
That is very interesting. I note that the right hon. Member for Surrey Heath is still in his plac...
My hon. Friend is making some very important points. It is interesting to hear Conservative Membe...
I completely agree with my hon. Friend.
For all these reasons I have tabled amendment 11, w...
I am very pleased to support my hon. Friend’s amendment. Does he agree that this will also be a v...
Absolutely. This issue is not going to go away. It will be a major part of the general election c...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
I will very shortly.
I hope that we will have the opportunity not only to debate this amend...
Another commitment was that they wanted to make Parliament sovereign again, but Government Member...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right.
These people will never be forgiven if they betray the ...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
I will give way to the hon. Gentleman shortly. The poster gave the clear impression that the mone...
I thank the hon. Gentleman for eventually giving way. He really should listen to the words of my ...
I think the hon. Gentleman was involved in Vote Leave—perhaps he was not—but I am not going to ta...
I entirely agree with the points that the hon. Gentleman is making. Having made that complaint to...
That is absolutely right, and I completely agree with the right hon. Gentleman. I come to the poi...
I will not give way; I am going to finish.
Either those people made the pledge in the expec...
I am wholly in favour of spending £350 million or £375 million or whatever the figure is. But I w...
I think I detected a hint of support for the amendment in the remarks that the right hon. Gentlem...
He’s melting!
The right hon. Gentleman seems to have accepted—I hear the word “melting” behind me—the premise b...
Order. If we are not careful, we will face the situation we faced last night. There are a large n...
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Roger, and to follow the hon. Member for S...
The right hon. Gentleman has just mentioned the whole of the United Kingdom. The UK is a union, s...
I entirely accept the hon. Gentleman’s point, but it is striking that the northernmost part of hi...
I give way to the hon. Gentleman on the Front Bench, who was first.
The right hon. Gentleman is very kind. He bears some responsibility for the mess that we are in, ...
It is striking that the hon. Gentleman talks about the mess that we are in. Of course, the “we” r...
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
I will make a little progress, then I will give way to the hon. Lady.
The reason I oppose a...
The channel tunnel.
The hon. Gentleman makes a very good point, but the idea that we should spend an inordinate amoun...
I will give way to the hon. Lady in just a second.
More than that, if we were to publish im...
I am surprised to hear the right hon. Gentleman saying he does not know, because I thought everyt...
My argument throughout has been that in seeking to find the certainty the hon. Gentleman wants fr...
Does the right hon. Gentleman know?
I am a humble seeker after truth, but I recognise that in a world where there are contending vers...
I will, in the spirit of inclusion, seek to give way seriatim to the four Members seeking to catc...
May I say, ever so gently to the right hon. Gentleman, that I am deeply offended by being accused...
That is a very serious and important point. I do not know if, strictly speaking—I defer to the Ch...
What we do know is that the people on 23 June did not vote to deliberately reduce environmental p...
I may not agree with the hon. Lady on everything, but I agree that effective environmental protec...
To be fair to the hon. Gentleman, for whom I have a great deal of respect, the next Member kind e...
Order. Just before we proceed, it is customary and courteous to allow the right hon. Gentleman to...
The right hon. Gentleman describes himself as a humble seeker of truth. That strikes me as intere...
That is a very important point very well made, but the point I sought to make earlier—the hon. La...
The hon. Member for Bishop Auckland sought to intervene earlier, but I suspect the point made by ...
I am grateful. Many members of the public are also humble seekers of truth. If we do not pass the...
This gets me back to the heart of my argument, which is that if one believes that the only author...
On finance, does the right hon. Gentleman agree with the Secretary of State for Brexit, who is pr...
To be fair to both the hon. Gentleman and my right hon. Friend, I think that that is a mischaract...
The most important word used in this debate is “accountability”. We are accountable not to the Ho...
My hon. Friend makes a characteristically acute point, and it goes to the heart of my argument, w...
As most of us found out during the campaign, people wanted us to get on with it, whatever the res...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. New clause 40, tabled by the hon. Member for Bishop Auckland,...
I certainly welcome my right hon. Friend’s conversion to listening to experts. Does he agree with...
I entirely agree, and my hon. Friend makes two important points. Of course, we had the referendum...
I thought that the hon. Member for Streatham (Mr Umunna) spoke powerfully about breaches of promi...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right, and there is a particular element to it, as well. One of the ...
My right hon. Friend makes a very powerful argument. Does he remember that during the campaign, a...
Again, my hon. and learned Friend, who is a silk and who took with forbearance my comments about ...
The right hon. Gentleman has said that members of the Government have made mistakes in the past. ...
Order. Before the right hon. Gentleman continues his speech, may I again gently say that a great ...
I am grateful for the intervention from the hon. Member for Ross, Skye and Lochaber, who combines...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
No.
Let me now deal with the substantial point made by the hon. Member for Ross, Skye and L...
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
No.
That idea is a misunderestimation—if I may borrow a phrase from George W. Bush—of what ...
My right hon. Friend is expounding entirely on the principle of the House, which is the principle...
I could not agree more, and my hon. Friend’s intervention gives me an opportunity to commend him ...
Yes, it is one of my favourite polysyllabic synonyms for prevarication, procrastination or delay....
I, on behalf of the Scottish National party, would like to speak to new clause 143, on which I ho...
My hon. Friend makes a very good point about the new clauses we are arguing for this evening. Is ...
I am fully aware of that. It reflects the consensus across Scottish society that Scotland should ...
No, I will not give way yet; we are just getting started.
I might add that in the time that...
A theme is emerging of what Brexit might mean: a plea—I noticed this in the speech of the right h...
My hon. Friend makes a good point—
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
I have not responded to my hon. Friend yet.
The Scottish National party—for the record, tha...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
No, I still have not even begun to talk about our new clauses and amendments, and I am sure that ...
It seems to have taken the Scottish nationalist party six months to realise that a third of those...
I think that that counts as a minority.
The First Minister herself said on 24 June that we ...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
No.
I want to address some of the new clauses and amendments that have been tabled by vario...
I should like to ask the hon. Gentleman a small question, if I may. Has he given his constituents...
I am sure that the hon. Gentleman was here for my Second Reading speech last week, so he will kno...
We are talking about financial considerations, but this is about the impact on people and we have...
Indeed. That is covered in amendment 72, in which we ask the Department for Work and Pensions to ...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
No, I want to make a little progress.
We have seen the leaked reports of the Government’s a...
Will my hon. Friend give way?
I am happy to give way to my hon. Friend, who sits on the International Development Committee.
Does my hon. Friend agree that the European development fund is crucial not only to achieving our...
Absolutely. The European development fund saves and changes lives in developing countries. I woul...
Would the hon. Gentleman’s constituents rather that development aid from this country was spent b...
The EDF is highly respected around the world for its effective use of international development a...
Scotland is already losing out on more than £230 million of EU funding that was supposed to go to...
There is absolutely no certainty for Scotland’s farmers, or indeed for farmers across the whole U...
If the hon. Lady agrees with that, I am happy to hear from her.
I will make my own point, thanks very much. Can the hon. Gentleman give the Committee some idea o...
With the greatest of respect, we voted against the referendum Bill. We did not think the referend...
My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. The SNP obviously backed a longer debate, and I am delig...
Precisely. The Brexiteers’ whole point was about parliamentary sovereignty and how this House wou...
May I provide an answer to the hon. Member for St Albans (Mrs Main)? The impact assessment would ...
That is a good point, well made. As I said at the start of my speech, we need the facts in front ...
I will make a little progress because, as I said, we have a number of important amendments to dis...
Is it not extremely concerning that the chief executive of the UK-based international charity Wor...
I agree entirely. All of us who deal with stakeholders in the third sector will hear stories such...
My hon. Friend is giving a damning indictment of the UK Government’s lack of preparedness for Bre...
That is a fair point. We hear Government Members saying, “Where did that money come from? It came...
My hon. Friend is highlighting some issues, but I wish to get back to the SDSR. The National Audi...
Of course we do, which is why we tabled all these amendments. We were asked why we were doing tha...
It is clear that even in the short term the fall in the value of the pound is triggering signific...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. We see no action from the Government whatsoever, other than t...
In the longer term we have other issues, because many of the key shortages in science, technology...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. She and I share a boundary with the University of Glasgow and...
My hon. Friend is making a fantastic speech, exposing the real difficulties at the heart of this ...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. We have every right to continue to question them; after all, ...
Let us hear from him.
As ever, the hon. Gentleman is making an impressive speech, but I should say one thing—
No, you should not! Sit down!
I should, actually—just the one. Why is it that Scotland now has to import scientists and enginee...
First, I am not convinced that the words “import” and “export” are the right ones to use when we ...
Having grown up in Inverness, my hon. Friend will remember the Kessock bridge well. When people c...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. This is exactly what we are trying to achieve.
In response to the right hon. Member for Surrey Heath (Michael Gove), I would say that it was bec...
My hon. Friend makes an absolutely valid point.
Amendment 61 calls for a revised national s...
My hon. Friend has mentioned a long list of issues that are not being properly scrutinised in thi...
I will give way to the hon. Lady in just one second. [Interruption.] Right, okay.
Does the hon. Gentleman think that perhaps the Procedure Committee should have a look at the prac...
Order. The hon. Gentleman is speaking. I know that there has been some latitude, but I also know ...
The short answer to the hon. Lady regarding the Procedure Committee is, yes, I do believe that th...
I thank my hon. Friend for giving way once again. One of the uncertainties faced by EU nationals ...
My hon. Friend is absolutely correct. Again, we will continue to push the Government on that. I h...
Will the hon. Gentleman enlighten us? Has any impact assessment ever been undertaken by the Scott...
Order. The problem might have come from somewhere else in the Chamber, but I do not want it to be...
I think the Prime Minister might disagree with you on that, Mr Hoyle.
I want to talk more a...
I thank my hon. Friend for giving way on that point. Many people have received medical
My hon. Friend makes a crucial point, which he was right to raise eloquently in the House in the ...
One impact assessment that has been researched is by End Child Poverty. Its report “Feeling the P...
Absolutely. As I said at the beginning of my speech on these important amendments that we want th...
Yes. It was decided in 1972 that the policy was somehow expendable, as my hon. Friend the Member ...
I will give way to my hon. Friend, who has a lot of experience.
I represent probably the only constituency to reach 200 miles of the exclusive economic zone. Is ...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. That is why the fishermen and women of Scotland will be parti...
I share my hon. Friend’s passion for the rural economy. Would he be surprised to learn that when ...
Well, there we are; I think that says it all.
On a point of order, Mr Hoyle. Is an intervention not usually made by the person who wishes to in...
If we kept that rule going, nobody would speak on either side.
The reality is that my hon. Friends have a very important role in representing the interests of t...
Is it not the case that when the right hon. Member for Chingford and Woodford Green (Mr Duncan Sm...
Order. We are not getting into a debate about that. I think Mr Grady wants to come to the end of ...
You are absolutely right, Mr Hoyle. As we know, six of my hon. Friends were waiting to be called ...
Order. If I was keeping everybody in order, your speech would have finished 15 minutes ago. We ha...
Thank you, Mr Hoyle. I do recognise that.
Does my hon. Friend agree that an impact assessment on the justice system is crucial because our ...
That is exactly what amendment 67 calls for. Members can see that my hon. Friend has read all our...
Does the hon. Gentleman have a timetable for how long it would take to conduct all these impact a...
I am absolutely certain that these impact assessments can run in parallel, but the hon. and learn...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
If the hon. Lady wants to talk to me about the machinery of government, I will be happy to take h...
Does the hon. Gentleman know exactly how much these impact assessments would cost the taxpayer?
That is exactly the point. The whole machinery of government is going to be tied up for years and...
Will my hon. Friend give way?
I think we need to continue looking at the various proposals.
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
I think we have heard enough from the former Justice Secretary for now.
The point the hon. ...
My hon. Friend is doing a fantastic job of outlining a series of important areas that are likely ...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. An impact assessment, by definition, is more than simply some...
The argument put forward by the hon. Lady from England somewhere—the hon. Member for Mid Bedfords...
Exactly.
Talking of maps, my hon. Friend brings me to amendment 71, which calls for the For...
It will be bigger.
Does the hon. Gentleman welcome the fact that UKRep will probably have to get bigger? Does he wel...
I hope that UKRep will be very slim. The hon. Gentleman is surely now suggesting the most pointle...
I am afraid that the hon. Gentleman has clearly not read the amendment. The amendment calls for t...
No, I am not giving way.
One of the key agreements of the UK’s renegotiation in earlier yea...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
No, I am not giving way to the right hon. Gentleman.
The token total of two pages on securi...
If the hon. Gentleman can tell me that, I will be happy to hear from him.
The hon. Gentleman is certainly giving a speech that is great in length. On amendment 73, would h...
Conveniently, we have heard from the Prime Minister in recent days about her support for friction...
On a point of order, Mr Hoyle. I wonder whether you can advise me. There are seven other hon. Mem...
We can enter into an argument about it, but the House decided on a programme motion, and unfortun...
On a point of order, Mr Hoyle.
Are we serious?
Yes. I seek your guidance, Mr Hoyle. Is it in order for Members who abstained on the programme mo...
I knew that my instinct was correct, and that that was not a point of order.
I take the point that the hon. Member for Wakefield (Mary Creagh) is making, and I believe she is...
On a point of order, Mr Hoyle. The Scottish National party has now been here for almost two years...
Order. As a member of the Panel of Chairs, you know that you are not making a point of order.
...That is an interesting point. The hon. Lady is sitting where a couple of other Members are accust...
If the hon. Gentleman wants to talk to me about my amendments, I will be happy to listen to him.<...
I entirely agree with the hon. Gentleman. He is completely right to use the procedures of the Hou...
I hope I am not hearing applause from Conservative Members, because that would be a breach of ord...
I reiterate that we are speaking to the amendments that we have tabled. One of the better product...
Order. Let us be a little bit fair. We understand what is going on. In the end, interventions hav...
I outlined at the start of my speech the amendments that we tabled. My hon. Friend makes a good p...
Is not amendment 74 the most important one, because it includes workers’ rights? Many of us view ...
Absolutely; indeed, an entire new schedule on workers’ rights has been tabled.
Amendment 75...
Does my hon. Friend agree that with so many regulations being implemented by local government in ...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right, and that is why we have tabled amendments calling for impact ...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
No—which is exactly what the right hon. Gentleman said to me on Second Reading.
The UK Gove...
Does my hon. Friend agree that the Government’s failure to include an equality impact assessment ...
Of course. Equalities are at the heart of the European project, which the Brexiteers have wanted ...
Why do we need an impact assessment? Well, right now chemical manufacturers and importers from no...
Order. We wanted short interventions.
It will not surprise the House to hear that I entirely agree with my hon. Friend. The single mark...
Of nearly 200 members of the United Nations, only six states are outwith a regional trade agreeme...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I hope that by examining in detail these vital new clauses an...
My hon. Friend has made excellent points about the amendments and about how many there are. Does ...
Absolutely. As has been pointed out, we had more time to discuss the Scotland Bill. That will now...
Order. Let us move on, and let us keep going. I call the Minister.
What a remarkable debate this has been. I congratulate the hon. Member for Glasgow North (Patrick...
Will the Minister give way?
I will come back to the hon. Lady later, because I suspect she wants to address environmental iss...
Given that I was not able to make a speech, I am very grateful to be able to intervene. Is it not...
The hon. Gentleman makes a very fair point. I am very pleased to say to him that the very first d...
Will the Minister acknowledge that moving environmental policy from the EU to domestic policy thr...
The hon. Lady raises very important points, which we will debate in detail when we come to the gr...
In responding, I shall be as concise as I was earlier and simply say that although the Minister h...