Police Grant Report (England and Wales)
Thursday, 4 February 2016
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I remind the House that this motion is subject to double majority voting. If a Division is called...
I beg to move,
That the Police Grant Report (England and Wales) for 2016–17 (HC 753), which...
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If the Minister and his ministerial colleagues decide to extend the term of the Metropolitan Poli...
Unlike the previous Labour Administration, we believe in police officers making the decisions the...
As the Minister knows, I have opposed cuts to the policing budget every year but he has always ha...
My hon. Friend is nothing less than determined to press his case every time, but crime has fallen...
The Minister must accept that there are 18,000 fewer police officers than when I stood at that Di...
Let me make a couple of points about that. The right hon. Gentleman, with his experience of being...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Not for the moment. I will give way to the shadow Home Secretary when I have given way to colleag...
I thank my right hon. Friend for giving way. I feel almost as though I have been promoted, given ...
I met a delegation of Lancashire Members from all parts of the House, and indeed I met everyone w...
Will the Minister give way?
Before I give way to the shadow Home Secretary, let me make a point about precepts. All Governmen...
I am grateful to the Minister, but let us get something straight. When I became shadow Home Secre...
I am so pleased that I gave way to the right hon. Gentleman. I should have given way earlier—I ap...
Answer the question.
I am always straight. The right hon. Gentleman can sit there and waffle away from a sedentary pos...
The Minister should be commended for being the first Policing Minister in a generation to tackle ...
I thank the Chairman of the Committee for his letter, and also for the kind comments that he ofte...
May I question the Minister on a point of fact? I know that he will have the facts in front of hi...
I think that the hon. Gentleman is wrong. Not only have I met South Wales MPs in the last couple ...
The Minister is right to commend the hard work of the police in very difficult circumstances, but...
I can tell the hon. Gentleman that crime has fallen in Manchester since 2010, as it has in the re...
I will give way to the hon. Member for Bermondsey and Old Southwark, but I will give way to the h...
The Minister says that it is important for people to have the confidence to report crime. In Lond...
I have never insulted an officer, or anyone’s constituent, in my entire life, and I never will. I...
I agree with the point that the Minister was trying to make about the emergency services working ...
We are seeing that sort of collaborative work across the country and some of it is being paid for...
I want to take the Minister back to the answer he gave me some moments ago. Of course it is not m...
That really depends on where those officers were in the first place. Were they working in the com...
May I plead with the Minister to look urgently at the rise in gun crime in the west midlands? Wil...
I saw reports of those shootings on the news and I got reports across my desk as well. Our though...
My hon. Friend the Member for Birmingham, Perry Barr (Mr Mahmood) mentioned the shootings in his ...
Why anybody would get in a car, drive off, open the window and shoot someone is beyond me, and pr...
There are orphans who are suffering as a result of that—
Order. I think we need to be clear whose intervention is being taken. The hon. Member for Hornsey...
Thank you, Mr Speaker, and I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. I have another tale of w...
The fact that it is a priority is exactly why the Chancellor stood at this Dispatch Box and said ...
The Minister is making a strong case. Is it not important to trust the professionals in the polic...
My hon. Friend has just touched on a point that I was going to make about collaboration. None of ...
I have been called many things since I have been in this House, and before I came here, but “frit...
I am glad to hear it, because I never did think that the Minister was in that category. He is say...
I know the Labour party are desperately trying to find a reason to vote against our very generous...
There has been a lot of talk about cuts, and indeed about the horrific issue of gun crime, but th...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right about that. We fund counter-terrorism from a separate budget, ...
I am slightly baffled by the Minister’s comments. Northumbria police force expects to have lost a...
Let me go over the arguments. We inherited a fiscal mess left by the previous Administration. We ...
I have been listening carefully to the Minister. I met my local borough commander last Friday, an...
My hon. Friend has brought me on to an interesting point. The Friday before last, I was at Hendon...
We all know that one perennial problem of policing has been the amount of time that police office...
There are a myriad different ways we can give the required confidence to our constituents, with o...
I will give way once more and then I will come to my closing remarks.
Will the Minister join me in congratulating the Conservative candidate in the Lincolnshire PCC el...
I have spent quite a bit of time in Lincolnshire over the years, and was lobbied extensively by t...
In Lincolnshire, we are very grateful to this Minister, because he has done more than any other M...
I know exactly what my hon. Friend is saying and I know exactly what is in the letter, because I ...
On collaboration, will the Minister pay tribute to the work being done by Essex and Kent police o...
That type of collaboration is so important. For too many years forces have sat in silos, as have ...
I will give way one last time and then I will sum up.
I am anxious to ensure that the Minister does not peak too soon. First, I pay tribute to Cambridg...
My hon. Friend has touched on a really important point. I had the honour the other week of contin...
I bow to no one in my admiration for our police service. Robert Peel uttered these immortal words...
On the issue of bowing to no one, will the hon. Gentleman support this settlement today, or will ...
We will oppose this settlement today. The Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Minister for Polici...
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way. He is absolutely right to go back to the Labour s...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Typically, what we see all over the country is a neighbourhoo...
Will my hon. Friend comment on the fact that Humberside police—I do not think it is the only poli...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Surveys show that, increasingly, the public complain about a ...
Will my hon. Friend confirm that we are not just talking about crime? When we have floods in our ...
My right hon. Friend, who served with such distinction as a police Minister, is absolutely right....
My hon. Friend might have heard me ask the Minister to comment on burglaries in Saddleworth, in w...
My hon. Friend makes a powerful point. If we look at the statistics overall, we see that areas of...
The hon. Gentleman is making a fair point. It would be churlish not to accept that there was prog...
Let me give a straight answer. I think that we did prescribe too much and too often. It was right...
Does my hon. Friend agree that, in relation to the very serious act of gun crime, neighbourhood p...
It is difficult to comment on the detailed circumstances of that crime other than to say that, of...
I agree with the shadow Minister that neighbourhood policing is key. Does he agree with the borou...
That depends what we are talking about. For example, the West Midlands police service has sought ...
I have given way about nine times. Let me make a little more progress, then I will gladly give wa...
On the precept, is my hon. Friend aware that a force such as Northumbria, which, under our excell...
Indeed. I pay tribute to somebody who was a great parliamentarian and who has been a great police...
Does my hon. Friend agree that some of our police forces are stretched just by the crime that the...
There has been an £8.5 million cut in real terms, contrary to what was said at the Dispatch Box. ...
My hon. Friend is right to point out the sleight of hand by the Government. The real unfairness t...
My hon. Friend sets out the case powerfully. There is no question but that need does not determin...
In a forward-looking county such as Hertfordshire, which has the pressures of supporting London a...
Every week I see innovation in the police service; of that there is no doubt. In relation to road...
I shall refer later to old Macmillanites. On the basis that I believe the hon. and learned Gentle...
The hon. Gentleman is very generous, though I shall not comment on that. Does he agree that polic...
If I can put it this way, that is a canard, as we used to say in the T and G. Of course it is rig...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
No, forgive me if I finish this important point.
Numbers matter. In the light of attacks su...
I will give way to somebody who has not already spoken.
It is all well and good bandying numbers around and saying we must have the capability to make a ...
The Opposition—all of us—have a very simple view. Perhaps I can draw a parallel with the deeply m...
I am slightly confused, and I wonder whether the hon. Gentleman can help me. He says that savings...
After Paris, the Government made a series of announcements—there was also one that pre-dated Pari...
Will my hon. Friend give way?
I am going to conclude my remarks, because I have been—forgive me if I say so—generous with inter...
I would like to say a few words about police funding and, in particular, its significance for pol...
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Carlisle (John Stevenson), who has put forward som...
As the Serjeant at Arms was not in his place when I paid tribute to him earlier, Mr Deputy Speake...
Those are two wonderful recommendations.
I see that we will now have another tribute to the Serjeant at Arms from the shadow Policing Mini...
I am grateful to my right hon. Friend. Now that the Serjeant at Arms is in his place, I would lik...
Order. Mr Dromey, can I just help out? The Front Benchers took well over an hour and there has be...
Absolutely, Mr Deputy Speaker. We now move on, your having encouraged everyone to do so, to the d...
My right hon. Friend is making a thoughtful and effective speech. As part of the consultation, wi...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I have visited her constituency, and I know that the issues s...
Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that we have come to over-rely on our police for a lot of thi...
The hon. Lady is absolutely right. There are other people who can step in. As those of us who sup...
I am very grateful for the opportunity to add my comments to this important debate. Policing and ...
Is my hon. Friend aware of the welcome police officers have given to the introduction of on-body ...
Absolutely. I have seen officers in action with their cameras, which they can use, for example, w...
My hon. Friend is making a very effective point about her local force. If I am called to speak, I...
I absolutely welcome the announcement of those funds. A lot of things are already going on in the...
On that point, does my hon. Friend agree that such innovations and making our police forces far m...
Absolutely. I will come on to that point later, but the innovation of police and crime commission...
Order. I have allowed the hon. Lady to cover a broad scope, but I do not want to get into campaig...
I apologise, Mr Deputy Speaker. Thank you for your indulgence.
Despite the huge debt burden...
I am grateful for the opportunity to contribute to this debate. May I join in the welcome to the ...
This Government clearly have a small-state Conservative view of the world, as we have seen in loc...
The constituents of north Wales and, I am sure, of Durham want a visible police force that engage...
My right hon. Friend is making some very effective points. I have already raised the issue of gun...
My hon. Friend makes her point very well. As she says, we need not just high-level policing but c...
I will now announce the result of the ballot held today for the election of a new Chair of the En...
May I briefly congratulate the hon. Member for Wakefield (Mary Creagh) on her election as Chair o...
You may be surprised to learn that, Mr Deputy Speaker. However, when police and crime commissione...
I am interested in what the hon. Gentleman is saying, but will he address the point raised by my ...
I hear the hon. Gentleman’s point, but I feel that he may be thinking that Staffordshire is some ...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way on that point?
I will not give way because the House does not have much longer to debate this matter.
Order. The House has lots of time. If you wish to give way, Mr Pincher, you must do so, but do no...
I am grateful, as ever, for your guidance Mr Deputy Speaker, but I would not wish to impose on th...
I thank my right hon. Friend the Member for Delyn (Mr Hanson) for his remarks about PC David Phil...
My hon. Friend is making a strong case by articulating the impact that these cuts are having on c...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right, and it is important that we value police officers and all pol...
It is a great pleasure to speak in this debate and a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Wirra...
I would like to speak briefly about Bedfordshire, which has been very seriously underfunded for a...
Despite some of the scaremongering in the press, the police grant report is good news for police ...
I counsel the hon. Gentleman against talking about crime falling across the country. He is saying...
The hon. Lady is talking about reported crime. According to the British crime survey, crime has f...
I want to talk about rates of crime that have increased, so if the hon. Lady will allow me, I wil...
My intervention will be quick, because I am keen that everyone has the chance to speak, but it is...
If the shadow Minister will hold his horses, I will talk about cybercrime and other types of crim...
Order. I said I did not want us campaigning for people standing
I thank you for that guidance, Mr Deputy Speaker.
It was not guidance.
In conclusion, I thank my right hon. Friend the Minister for how he has worked with me and other ...
I rise to make four brief points. First, on the level of funding, before the autumn statement, th...
I will give way to the hon. Gentleman, who was wronged earlier, because Durham is, in fact, the m...
I wanted to put the record straight for the hon. Member for Tamworth (Christopher Pincher). As th...
I am sure the Minister will deal with that in his response. I do not recognise those statistics, ...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
No.
The point about flexibility is clearly lost on the Labour party. I recently attended a ...
It is fitting that we are having this debate in the same week that the Prime Minister made a spee...
The hon. Lady mentions the money of the West Midlands police service, but it is overwhelmingly ea...
It is certainly true that the chief constable was excited at the prospect of the new funding form...
If the hon. Member for Cheltenham (Alex Chalk) stands up, he will be called.
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Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. That is very kind.
As the Chancellor of the Exchequer said...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Very briefly.
I think that the hon. Gentleman has to sit down when I stand up.
I know that the present Government find it difficult to distinguish between revenue and capital, ...
As I have said, it is important to put the settlement in context. Back in 2010—[Interruption.] Ma...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
I will not take any more interventions.
Let us look at how that capability is being enhance...
I have now to announce the result of the deferred Division on the Question relating to the draft ...