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Britain and International Security

Debate on Thursday, 2 July 2015, in the House of Commons, led by Michael Fallon and Tobias Ellwood. The answering members were Lord Coaker and Dan Jarvis.
Motion that this House has considered Britain and international security. Agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
597 cc1668-1736 
Session
2015-16
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Britain and International Security
Tuesday, 30 June 2015
Research briefings
Proceeding contributions
Michael Fallon | 597 c1669 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House has considered Britain and international security.

Las...

Paul Flynn | 597 c1669 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Secretary of State accept that those terrible events are part of a deliberate ploy by IS...


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Michael Fallon | 597 cc1669-1670 (Link to this contribution)

I will reflect on that analysis, but I certainly hope that the hon. Gentleman is not suggesting t...

Stephen Doughty | 597 c1670 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State will be aware of the very concerning incidents in my constituency of indiv...

Michael Fallon | 597 c1670 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely; it is worrying. I will explain exactly what we are doing shortly.

Since Septemb...

Lord Benyon | 597 c1670 (Link to this contribution)

Last year the Defence Committee visited Iraq and Jordan. We were briefed by the King of Jordan ab...

Michael Fallon | 597 c1670 (Link to this contribution)

I discussed exactly that with His Majesty the King of Jordan when he was here last week. I assure...

Michael Fallon | 597 cc1670-1 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way in a moment.

As the Prime Minister said on Monday, there must be a full-spe...

Julian Lewis | 597 c1671 (Link to this contribution)

In 2013, the Government wanted to remove Assad without helping al-Qaeda or similar groups that la...

Michael Fallon | 597 c1671 (Link to this contribution)

We do not want to give any succour to Assad. I do not think that anybody in this House wants the ...

Alex Salmond | 597 c1671 (Link to this contribution)

The Tunisian Government have today arrested 12 Daesh suspects whom they believe were trained, alo...

Michael Fallon | 597 c1671 (Link to this contribution)

We have to deal with ISIL extremism right across the board. We are working with the Tunisian auth...

John Redwood | 597 c1671 (Link to this contribution)

If we have a Daesh terrorist plotting murders in the United Kingdom, we arrest them, prosecute th...

Michael Fallon | 597 c1671 (Link to this contribution)

I recognise my right hon. Friend’s view, which he has honourably held for a long time and advocat...

Lord Walney | 597 c1672 (Link to this contribution)

In one sense, the Secretary of State’s desire to get consensus across the House is laudable, but ...

Michael Fallon | 597 c1672 (Link to this contribution)

I am laying out some of the case today. However, the Prime Minister has made it clear that we wil...

Mike Gapes | 597 c1672 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State knows that in the absence of an effective Iraqi Government response, the p...

Michael Fallon | 597 c1672 (Link to this contribution)

As I think the hon. Gentleman knows, we have supplied heavy machine guns to the Kurds. I have see...

Mark Pritchard | 597 c1672 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Secretary of State give way before he moves on?

Michael Fallon | 597 c1672 (Link to this contribution)

Of course, but I am conscious that a lot of hon. Members want to speak in this debate.

Mark Pritchard | 597 c1672 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State mentioned a full-spectrum response, whether at home or abroad. Does he agr...

Michael Fallon | 597 c1672 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, we are playing our full part in the intelligence and surveillance efforts. Some 30% of the i...

Michael Fallon | 597 c1673 (Link to this contribution)

I have been generous in giving way and I will do so again in a moment.

I want to deal with ...

Lord Dodds of Duncairn | 597 c1673 (Link to this contribution)

On the protection of the UK as a whole and border security, the Secretary of State will be aware ...

Michael Fallon | 597 c1673 (Link to this contribution)

I shall certainly look at the right hon. Gentleman’s specific point about the border. We now have...

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 597 c1673 (Link to this contribution)

One of the most striking images of the terrorist attacks in Tunisia last week was of Muslim hotel...

Michael Fallon | 597 c1674 (Link to this contribution)

I have a lot of sympathy with that view. Of course, our interlocutors in the Gulf and our coaliti...

James Gray | 597 c1674 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend says that the BBC has been persuaded to drop the term “Islamic State”, but i...

Michael Fallon | 597 cc1674-5 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend. The BBC needs to be impartial about the facts, but we cannot be impa...

Michael Fallon | 597 c1675 (Link to this contribution)

I have already given way to the hon. Member for Cardiff South and Penarth (Stephen Doughty), so I...

Martin Docherty-Hughes | 597 c1675 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful that the Secretary of State has mentioned the threat posed by the Russian Federatio...

Michael Fallon | 597 c1675 (Link to this contribution)

We are invigorating our forces. It is because we have the defence budget in order now and have de...

Lord Spellar | 597 c1675 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State will know that during the cold war our and NATO’s defence and security pol...

Michael Fallon | 597 c1675 (Link to this contribution)

I have started to describe some of the principal threats today from state and non-state actors.

Michael Fallon | 597 cc1675-6 (Link to this contribution)

We face a number of threats—that is obvious to everybody. We cannot choose between them. They are...

Tom Tugendhat | 597 c1676 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend has mentioned a number of operations on which I had the honour to serve. Alt...

Michael Fallon | 597 c1676 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome my hon. Friend and parliamentary neighbour to his place in this House. He brings a weal...

Andrew Murrison | 597 c1676 (Link to this contribution)

The OECD is this month considering whether to re-categorise official development assistance so th...

Michael Fallon | 597 cc1676-7 (Link to this contribution)

There are a number of measurements, including the OECD one and the Stockholm International Peace ...

Stephen Doughty | 597 c1677 (Link to this contribution)

Given the breadth and scale of the operations that the Secretary of State is describing and the f...

Michael Fallon | 597 c1677 (Link to this contribution)

I can confirm that Future Force 2020 is still our strategy. Reserve recruitment is now increasing...

Richard Drax | 597 c1677 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my right hon. Friend on the sensible and pragmatic way in which he is dealing with...

Michael Fallon | 597 c1677 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that my hon. Friend will recognise that we are rebuilding our forces, not least our reserv...

Nusrat Ghani | 597 c1677 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Michael Fallon | 597 c1677 (Link to this contribution)

I am in the hands of the House, Madam Deputy Speaker. I know that other Members want to speak, bu...

Nusrat Ghani | 597 c1678 (Link to this contribution)

As a proud new recruit of the armed forces parliamentary scheme, I look forward to gaining first-...

Michael Fallon | 597 c1678 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree. That is what the Prime Minister calls a “full spectrum” effect. We have to de...

Brendan O'Hara | 597 c1678 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Secretary of State accept that there is a large defence capability gap, and does he now ...

Michael Fallon | 597 cc1678-1680 (Link to this contribution)

Tough decisions were taken back in 2010, but let me tell the hon. Gentleman that the maritime pat...

Lord Coaker | 597 cc1680-1 (Link to this contribution)

I start by welcoming the new Chair of the Defence Committee, the right hon. Member for New Forest...

Lord Spellar | 597 c1681 (Link to this contribution)

Before my hon. Friend moves on to the more general issue, will he clarify the fact that the House...

Lord Coaker | 597 cc1681-2 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend’s well made point is crucial to the debates that we will have in the House. ...

Alex Salmond | 597 c1682 (Link to this contribution)

Unless I am very much mistaken, the hon. Gentleman is preparing the ground to move the Labour par...

Lord Coaker | 597 c1682 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman asks a fair question, but he should also reflect on what I have tried to...

Alex Salmond | 597 c1682 (Link to this contribution)

We both know that the Defence Secretary, for some considerable time—as long as he has been Secret...

Lord Coaker | 597 cc1682-3 (Link to this contribution)

I accept that point. Of course the situation in Syria is complex, as I stated earlier. All I say ...

Andrew Gwynne | 597 c1683 (Link to this contribution)

As well as top-quality armed forces we also need the best security services, both at home and abr...

Lord Coaker | 597 cc1683-6 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an important point about intelligence. We in this House are proud that our i...

Julian Lewis | 597 c1686 (Link to this contribution)

It has been touching to receive so many messages of congratulations on my becoming Chair of the D...

Derek Twigg | 597 c1686 (Link to this contribution)

I am a former member of the Defence Committee. The right hon. Gentleman will recall a report from...

Julian Lewis | 597 c1686 (Link to this contribution)

I hope to be able to continue that degree of far-sightedness in future.

James Gray | 597 c1686 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt my right hon. Friend to make such a tiny point. It is most kind of him to...

Julian Lewis | 597 cc1686-7 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is, in my eyes, as gallant as they come.

In my hon. Friend’s intervention, h...

Alex Salmond | 597 c1687 (Link to this contribution)

Far be it for me to defend the BBC, since it has done so little in Scotland recently to merit def...

Julian Lewis | 597 c1687 (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely grateful to the right hon. Gentleman, who anticipates the very next point I was go...

Bob Stewart | 597 c1687 (Link to this contribution)

I seem to recall that the vote was actually not to intervene, but to keep the option of intervent...

Julian Lewis | 597 cc1687-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid I have to disagree with my hon. and gallant Friend. If the vote had been carried, int...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 597 c1689 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Before I call the next speaker, it may be helpful to know that I hope not to impose a time...

Alex Salmond | 597 cc1689-1690 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. You have no idea how joyful it is to hear those words spoken and...

James Gray | 597 c1690 (Link to this contribution)

I very much agree with the right hon. Gentleman that if there were to be a military strike agains...

Alex Salmond | 597 cc1691-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am coming on to explain exactly why I am sceptical about that argument. I would be delighted, h...

Alex Salmond | 597 cc1692-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am glad that I have captured the attention of the Labour Front Bench, and I hope what I have sa...

Brendan O'Hara | 597 c1693 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree that with my right hon. Friend that the situation is extremely complex. Every Me...

Alex Salmond | 597 cc1693-4 (Link to this contribution)

I do agree with my hon. Friend. I could, if I wished, spend a great deal of time talking about Tr...

Andrew Mitchell | 597 cc1694-6 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Gordon (Alex Salmond) and to take part in th...

Andrew Mitchell | 597 c1695 (Link to this contribution)

I have almost finished.

May I end on this point? On Sunday night, I shall attend an Iftar a...

Mike Gapes | 597 c1695 (Link to this contribution)

I add my voice to those of other Members who have said that it is time for all of us, including o...

Mike Gapes | 597 cc1695-7 (Link to this contribution)

It is more than a death cult. It is worse than that, because its members are interested not just ...

Stephen Pound | 597 c1697 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend rightly mentions the quality of the weaponry that the peshmerga and the Kurdish fo...

Mike Gapes | 597 cc1697-8 (Link to this contribution)

I agree entirely. That was the point of my intervention on the Secretary of State earlier.

...

Tobias Ellwood | 597 c1698 (Link to this contribution)

I was in Iraq on Friday. I had an opportunity to speak to the Deputy Prime Minister of Kurdistan,...

Mike Gapes | 597 c1698 (Link to this contribution)

I look forward to seeing the details. No doubt, as a Select Committee member in future, I will be...

Alex Salmond | 597 c1698 (Link to this contribution)

As the hon. Gentleman suspected, I was not arguing for military action. I was merely saying that,...

Mike Gapes | 597 c1699 (Link to this contribution)

That is true, although we can never be certain about anything. As we have seen throughout history...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 597 c1699 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I know that hon. Members are better at arithmetic than this. Seven or eight minutes is not...

Bob Stewart | 597 c1699 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I will be bang on time.

Nobody should underestimate the se...

Nusrat Ghani | 597 c1699 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Bob Stewart | 597 c1699 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way, but I am not a right hon. Friend.

Nusrat Ghani | 597 c1700 (Link to this contribution)

The maintenance of international security depends to a great extent on countries working together...

Bob Stewart | 597 c1700 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my very hon. Friend for her intervention, and I entirely agree with everything she says. ...

John Nicolson | 597 c1700 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Bob Stewart | 597 c1700 (Link to this contribution)

Forgive me, but I am really up against the time and I want others to have time to speak. Because ...

Bob Stewart | 597 c1700 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way, as the hon. Gentleman is a very old friend of mine.

John Nicolson | 597 c1700 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. and gallant Gentleman for giving way. We have identified cybercrime and terroris...

Bob Stewart | 597 cc1700-1 (Link to this contribution)

He was my very old friend. [Laughter.] Of course I disagree with him. The point is that, when we ...

Stuart Blair Donaldson | 597 cc1701-4 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for the opportunity to address the House today. May I start by r...

Chris Green | 597 cc1704-6 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for calling me to make my maiden speech during this important de...

Chris Evans | 597 cc1705-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Bolton West (Chris Green). I was elected at the sa...

Nigel Evans | 597 cc1707-1710 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Islwyn (Chris Evans). My heartfelt sympathies go o...

Chris Law | 597 cc1709-1713 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for giving me this wonderful opportunity to make my maiden speec...

Jack Lopresti | 597 cc1713-4 (Link to this contribution)

What a privilege it is to follow the hon. Member for Dundee West (Chris Law) and his excellent ma...

Andrew Murrison | 597 c1714 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right to say that if countries want the cover, they have to be prepa...

Jack Lopresti | 597 cc1714-5 (Link to this contribution)

They are not mutually exclusive. We need a benchmark figure to show we are serious and that we ar...

Lindsay Hoyle | 597 c1715 (Link to this contribution)

We are stretching over the seven minutes now. If we can do up to seven minutes, everybody will ge...

Stephen Pound | 597 cc1715-7 (Link to this contribution)

If you will allow me, Mr Deputy Speaker, I would like to mention the extremely dignified behaviou...

James Gray | 597 cc1717-9 (Link to this contribution)

The Trident-sceptic and Europhile hon. Member for Ealing North (Stephen Pound) has the ability to...

Derek Twigg | 597 cc1719-1721 (Link to this contribution)

I intend to devote most of the time available to me to the situation in the middle east, but firs...

Phillip Lee | 597 cc1721-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Halton (Derek Twigg), who made a very thoughtful c...

Lindsay Hoyle | 597 c1722 (Link to this contribution)

Order. May I suggest that hon. Members speak for just six minutes?

4.7 pm

Stephen Phillips | 597 cc1722-4 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Bracknell (Dr Lee), who has, as always, ...

Lindsay Hoyle | 597 c1724 (Link to this contribution)

Has the hon. Gentleman been here for the debate?

Tom Tugendhat | 597 c1724 (Link to this contribution)

I have been part of the main debate from the beginning.

Does my hon. and learned Friend rec...

Stephen Phillips | 597 c1724 (Link to this contribution)

I recognise that, and I am coming on to it, although it is always difficult to condense—

Lindsay Hoyle | 597 c1724 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. and learned Gentleman is out of time.

Stephen Phillips | 597 c1724 (Link to this contribution)

It is always difficult to condense a longer speech into a shorter speech, but I will take the inj...

John Glen | 597 cc1724-6 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the opportunity to contribute to this debate. I wish to focus my remarks on three areas...

Andrew Murrison | 597 cc1726-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased to follow the excellent speech of my hon. Friend the Member for Salisbury (John Glen...

Alan Mak | 597 cc1728-1730 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in today’s debate on the defence of our country. I joi...

Dan Jarvis | 597 cc1729-1734 (Link to this contribution)

This has been an important debate at a very appropriate time to be considering Britain’s security...

Tobias Ellwood | 597 cc1733-5 (Link to this contribution)

I begin, as I am obliged to, by acknowledging my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Inte...

Tobias Ellwood | 597 cc1735-6 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise but I will not because I have a lot to get through.

My right hon. Friend the Me...

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