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Finance (No. 2) Bill

Debate on bills on Wednesday, 25 March 2015, in the House of Commons, led by David Gauke. The answering member was Chris Leslie.
Second reading. Agreed to on question. Bill to stand committed to a Committee of the Whole House.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
594 cc1437-1467 
Session
2014-15
Department
Treasury
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Finance (No. 2) Bill
Wednesday, 25 March 2015
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Commons
Finance (No. 2) Bill 2014-15
Monday, 23 March 2015
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
David Gauke | 594 c1437 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

Finance Bill 2015 takes another ste...

Andrew Love | 594 c1437 (Link to this contribution)

That will also have the effect of increasing complexity in the taxation system. Whatever happened...


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David Gauke | 594 cc1437-8 (Link to this contribution)

We have established the Office of Tax Simplification and put in place a large number of its recom...

Lord Sharma | 594 c1438 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend talks about the policies that are being put in place by the Government to help bus...

David Gauke | 594 cc1438-9 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Very often, the debate in this House is about the impact on i...

Ian Swales | 594 c1439 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the increase in the bank levy. Does the Minister agree that it is extremely difficult f...

David Gauke | 594 c1439 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a very good point. Indeed, that is why the previous Chancellor of the Excheq...

Andrew Love | 594 c1439 (Link to this contribution)

The Chancellor indicated to the Treasury Committee yesterday that he was minded to make the bank ...

David Gauke | 594 c1439 (Link to this contribution)

We believe that the bank levy and the additional contribution from the banking sector are not jus...

Lord Sharma | 594 c1440 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is being generous in giving way. I welcome the diverted profits tax and I think th...

David Gauke | 594 c1440 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend again makes a very good point. This Government have led the way in the establishme...

Lord Sharma | 594 c1440 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is talking about fairness in the tax system, which we all want. Will he confirm th...

David Gauke | 594 c1440 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes another excellent point. This year, the proportion of income tax paid by the...

Charlie Elphicke | 594 c1440 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a powerful case on the work that the Government have done to tackle tax ...

David Gauke | 594 c1440 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend—given his background, he is an expert in tax matters—has been a consistently stron...

David Gauke | 594 c1441 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way again, because I know that the hon. Gentleman does not have long left in this Hou...

Andrew Love | 594 c1441 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for being so generous with his time. The Chancellor has indicated that...

David Gauke | 594 cc1441-2 (Link to this contribution)

Given this Government’s record on the measures introduced in Finance Act after Finance Act, the s...

Andrew Love | 594 c1442 (Link to this contribution)

According to the Financial Times this morning, the Bill will add significantly to the complexity ...

David Gauke | 594 c1442 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman may be interested to hear, or he may already be aware, that the Office of Tax ...

Nigel Mills | 594 c1442 (Link to this contribution)

I do not wish to revisit old debates about simplification, but does my hon. Friend have a view ab...

David Gauke | 594 c1442 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend does not want to revisit old debates, but I tempted to give a response that I susp...

David Gauke | 594 c1443 (Link to this contribution)

I give way to another Member who, like my hon. Friend the Member for Amber Valley (Nigel Mills), ...

Charlie Elphicke | 594 c1443 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is being extremely generous in giving way. May I turn to the provisions on oil tax...

David Gauke | 594 c1443 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I believe that oil revenues are something like a 10th of what...

Ian Swales | 594 c1443 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Financial Secretary give way?

David Gauke | 594 c1443 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way one last time, but I am conscious that many Members will want to speak.

Ian Swales | 594 c1443 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Financial Secretary. I am sure that he would accept, having looked at the business ca...

David Gauke | 594 c1443 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a good point. Particularly in the north-east of England, a number of busines...

Chris Leslie | 594 cc1443-4 (Link to this contribution)

It is a strange moment in the life of this five-year Parliament to be here debating the coalition...

David Gauke | 594 c1444 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Chris Leslie | 594 c1444 (Link to this contribution)

I will; perhaps the Minister can say how we will compress that process into six hours.

David Gauke | 594 c1444 (Link to this contribution)

I share the hon. Gentleman’s sense of loss that there is not the usual Committee stage upstairs t...

Chris Leslie | 594 c1444 (Link to this contribution)

I do accept that, and it is good that we have had discussions through the usual channels, treatin...

Charlie Elphicke | 594 c1445 (Link to this contribution)

Is it a Labour party manifesto commitment to have an early Budget in the last year of a Labour Go...

Chris Leslie | 594 c1445 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman must wait for our manifesto in w which we shall reveal all those details.

Debbie Abrahams | 594 c1445 (Link to this contribution)

Is my hon. Friend as concerned as I am that there is so little distributional analysis in the Fin...

Chris Leslie | 594 cc1445-6 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend’s point about distributional analysis is a good one. We know that those on lower a...

Geraint Davies | 594 c1446 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will know that the number of people earning more than £20,000 has fallen by 800,00...

Chris Leslie | 594 c1447 (Link to this contribution)

As ever, my hon. Friend manages to sum up the Government’s record in a pithy and simple intervent...

Thomas Docherty | 594 c1447 (Link to this contribution)

I was at a Budget briefing in Dunfermline given by a local accountancy firm, Thomson Cooper, on F...

Chris Leslie | 594 c1448 (Link to this contribution)

It is in the very first clause of the Bill: it seems that the Government’s proudest achievement i...

Chris Leslie | 594 c1448 (Link to this contribution)

Well, maybe that is the logic of the Liberal Democrats in supporting these particular measures. I...

Ian Swales | 594 c1448 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman explain why the Government he was a part of put up 100 taxes in 13 years,...

Chris Leslie | 594 c1448 (Link to this contribution)

That sounds as though the hon. Gentleman was in favour of the 50p rate and regrets that it was no...

Bridget Phillipson | 594 c1448 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will know the excellent work of the Union of Shop, Distributive and Allied Workers...

Chris Leslie | 594 c1449 (Link to this contribution)

The retail sector is edging towards greater and greater insecurity, as companies feel that the on...

Fiona O'Donnell | 594 c1449 (Link to this contribution)

Following on from the previous intervention, in Scotland we are seeing an abuse of apprenticeship...

Chris Leslie | 594 c1449 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend should bear that in mind when we hear Ministers trumpeting their apprenticeship nu...

David Gauke | 594 c1449 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman explain how his tuition fees policy will be paid for, given that his part...

Chris Leslie | 594 c1449 (Link to this contribution)

We are delighted that the Government took a shine to our proposals for pension tax relief changes...

Geraint Davies | 594 c1450 (Link to this contribution)

I mentioned that low productivity was driving down wages. Is not the point of tuition fees policy...

Chris Leslie | 594 c1450 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend knows that the change from £9,000 to £6,000 would make an appreciable difference. ...

Jake Berry | 594 c1450 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman clarify his statement about the Government not realising how many people ...

Chris Leslie | 594 c1450 (Link to this contribution)

The arrangements for the rate of payback were set out in the policy documents we published, but t...

Chris Leslie | 594 cc1450-1 (Link to this contribution)

I want to make some progress—I have several pages still to get through and I want other Members t...

Mike Kane | 594 c1451 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an important case about the bedroom tax. The average cost of the bedroom tax...

Chris Leslie | 594 c1451 (Link to this contribution)

This is always the dilemma. Do Government Members not understand—is it just a question of ignoran...

Andrew Love | 594 c1451 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that, given that such an iniquitous tax raises so little money for the ...

Chris Leslie | 594 c1451 (Link to this contribution)

Many studies suggest that it costs more than has been raised. Of course, the Government knew how ...

Chris Leslie | 594 c1451 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend feels strongly about this, so I will give way one more time.

Mike Kane | 594 c1451 (Link to this contribution)

I do feel strongly about it. I can cite, with his approval, the case of Mr Gunning from my consti...

Chris Leslie | 594 cc1452-5 (Link to this contribution)

That is interesting. This sort of postcode lottery has afflicted many people, so my hon. Friend m...

Ian Swales | 594 c1453 (Link to this contribution)

For someone who did not feel that we had been given enough time today, the hon. Member for Nottin...

Andrew Love | 594 c1453 (Link to this contribution)

There is significant concern, indeed alarm, out there among some of the tax professionals and acc...

Ian Swales | 594 cc1456-7 (Link to this contribution)

As I said a moment ago, I do share some of that concern. The new diverted profits tax is quite co...

Chris Evans | 594 cc1457-8 (Link to this contribution)

Let me begin by expressing my disappointment that there is to be no Public Bill Committee. I have...

Ian Swales | 594 c1458 (Link to this contribution)

I always enjoy listening to the hon. Gentleman’s speeches, but he ought to note that the Budget i...

Chris Evans | 594 c1458 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome any money that goes towards mental health, and I think anybody suffering from a mental ...

Charlie Elphicke | 594 c1458 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is making a passionate and powerful speech highlighting why it is such a trave...

Chris Evans | 594 c1458 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his kind comments, and I have to say that over the years that we h...

Chris Evans | 594 cc1458-9 (Link to this contribution)

Yes; I thank the hon. Gentleman for that, and admire his cheek in trying to get me into trouble. ...

Jake Berry | 594 c1459 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman must accept that five years ago the personal allowance was just over £5,500, a...

Chris Evans | 594 c1459 (Link to this contribution)

I would welcome it had VAT not been hiked up from 17.5% to 20%, which has affected many people an...

Andrew Love | 594 cc1459-1461 (Link to this contribution)

I want to make some brief comments on a number of issues that have come up in the debate so far: ...

Geraint Davies | 594 cc1461-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure and privilege to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Edmonton (Mr Love), ...

Geraint Davies | 594 c1462 (Link to this contribution)

They need to pay lots more, not a bit more. Of course some of the very rich are paying more, but ...

Geraint Davies | 594 cc1462-3 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way to the rover from Dover, thank you very much. He is known as the Dover soul. ...

Geraint Davies | 594 c1463 (Link to this contribution)

I will finally give way to the hon. Gentleman.

Charlie Elphicke | 594 c1463 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for being so generous in giving way to the rover from Dover. I gently ...

Baroness Primarolo | 594 c1463 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Believe it or not, that discussion is outside the scope of the Budget resolutions. But giv...

Geraint Davies | 594 c1463 (Link to this contribution)

Clearly, I accept the ruling on the rover from Dover. I was simply making the point that, in our ...

Baroness Primarolo | 594 cc1463-4 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Mr Davies, you are way out of scope now, so we will go to the concluding remarks of this d...

Shabana Mahmood | 594 cc1464-5 (Link to this contribution)

I have only a short time in which to speak, so let me start by saying that we have heard some ver...

Priti Patel | 594 cc1465-6 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to close this debate on Second Reading. I would like to thank everyone who...

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