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Infrastructure Bill [Lords]

Debate on bills on Monday, 26 January 2015, in the House of Commons, led by John Hayes. The answering member was Richard Burden.
Report stage. New clause 15, discussed with new clauses 1, 2, 4, 6 to 11, and 19, agreed to on question. New clause 1 negatived on division (224 to 320). New clause 2 negatived on division (231 to 324). New clause 9 negatived on division (52 to 308). New clause 19 agreed to on question. New clause 14, discussed with new clauses 3, 12, 16 and 20, agreed to on question. New clause 16 negatived on division (245 to 293). Amendment to clause 29 negatived on division (209 to 330). New clause 13, discussed with new clauses 17, 18 and 5, agreed to on question. New clauses 17 and 18 agreed to on question. Amendment to new clause 18 negatived on division (203 to 323). Some amendments made. Third reading. Queen's consent signified. Agreed to on question. Bill passed, with amendments.
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591 cc573-696 
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2014-15
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Third reading and Report stage
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House of Commons chamber

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Proceeding contributions
Amber Rudd | 591 c574 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

John Bercow | 591 cc574-580 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

New clause 1— Hydraulic fracturin...


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Amber Rudd | 591 c580 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak to new clause 15 and amendments 98 and 103. Both shale gas and geothermal energy ...

Amber Rudd | 591 cc580-1 (Link to this contribution)

I will make some progress, but I will give way to the hon. Lady during my speech. The provisions ...

Caroline Lucas | 591 c581 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister explain how public confidence in fracking is enhanced by the Government’s refus...

Amber Rudd | 591 c581 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady will know that this matter is included in one of the amendments, which I will come ...

Duncan Hames | 591 c581 (Link to this contribution)

Three times now the Minister has referred to moving to lower carbon emissions in the UK, but what...

Amber Rudd | 591 c581 (Link to this contribution)

That is why, as the hon. Gentleman is aware, the Government have been so keen to get targets into...

Lord Barker of Battle | 591 c581 (Link to this contribution)

On that point about displaced coal, is it not a fact that it is displaced coal from north America...

Amber Rudd | 591 cc581-2 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an excellent point based on his clear expertise in this area. The Committee ...

Robert Smith | 591 c582 (Link to this contribution)

The important thing that has come from these exchanges is that it is the use of carbon that cause...

Amber Rudd | 591 c582 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is entirely right. It is absolutely essential that we do also maximise economi...

David Mowat | 591 c582 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister rightly said that the displacement of coal by gas could make a massive impact on red...

Amber Rudd | 591 c582 (Link to this contribution)

We will certainly do our best. The UK is a leader in Europe in providing our own example and in t...

Amber Rudd | 591 c582 (Link to this contribution)

I will make a little more progress.

Professor David Mackay and Dr Timothy Stone have suppor...

Amber Rudd | 591 cc582-3 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to the hon. Gentleman, but first I want to outline what the Government are doing ...

Julian Huppert | 591 c583 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that amendment. It goes halfway towards my amendment, which called for t...

Amber Rudd | 591 c583 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes an interesting point. I am confident that our amendment addresses exactl...

William Cash | 591 c583 (Link to this contribution)

On the point made by my hon. Friend the Member for Warrington South (David Mowat), is the Ministe...

Amber Rudd | 591 c583 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for his expression of confidence in our ability to work with our European ...

Tim Yeo | 591 c583 (Link to this contribution)

Is my hon. Friend aware that David Mackay, to whom the hon. Member for Cambridge (Dr Huppert) ref...

Amber Rudd | 591 c583 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right: it is a win-win for the UK in both potential economic benefit...

David TC Davies | 591 c583 (Link to this contribution)

In addition to all the advantages my hon. Friend has already mentioned, does she accept that we n...

Amber Rudd | 591 c584 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right: having a successful shale gas industry is an important part of supportin...

Mike Weir | 591 c584 (Link to this contribution)

I note what the Minister says, and obviously I am keen that the powers be transferred as soon as ...

Amber Rudd | 591 c584 (Link to this contribution)

I feel that the Government new clause deals with the specific issues that are relevant to the Inf...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 591 c584 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister said that onshore energy and fuels will be devolved, but when will offshore be devol...

Amber Rudd | 591 c584 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for that contribution, but I must defer to other Departments on that. ...

Tom Greatrex | 591 c584 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is talking about new clause 2 and the devolution of licensing, which she says is pro...

Amber Rudd | 591 c585 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman raises an interesting point—one that was not raised in Committee, although we ...

Jonathan Edwards | 591 c585 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has outlined a road map for further powers for Scotland in regard to licensing power...

Amber Rudd | 591 c585 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State for Wales has announced that a set of commitments agreed by the four main ...

Julian Huppert | 591 c585 (Link to this contribution)

Is the Minister saying—she should be very clear on this—that there is absolutely no prospect of a...

Amber Rudd | 591 cc585-6 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Gentleman will let me comment on that aspect in my own words, I hope that will reassu...

Norman Baker | 591 c586 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister accept that 18% of the UK’s sites of special scientific interest, 13% of the sp...

Amber Rudd | 591 c586 (Link to this contribution)

Let me add to my earlier comments that we have agreed an outright ban on fracking in national par...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 591 c586 (Link to this contribution)

I know that my hon. Friend will shortly respond to some of the amendments tabled in my name, but ...

Amber Rudd | 591 c586 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right. That is exactly what we have done. We have now put in place an outright ...

Joan Walley | 591 c586 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister clarify the situation in respect of ancient woodland? Will she also clarify the ...

Amber Rudd | 591 c586 (Link to this contribution)

That is something that I will have to look into. For the moment, I will make progress and hope to...

Tom Greatrex | 591 c586 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Speaker. Can you assist the House? The Minister seems to have suggested t...

John Bercow | 591 cc586-7 (Link to this contribution)

I think that is a matter of the hon. Gentleman’s interpretation. For the avoidance of doubt, I mu...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 591 c587 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Speaker. Is there, then, an amendment to that effect?

John Bercow | 591 c587 (Link to this contribution)

No amendment is required to prove that there is no amendment. That makes me think that the hon. L...

Joan Walley | 591 c587 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Speaker.

John Bercow | 591 c587 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I will take the point of order from the hon. Lady and then the Minister can either respond...

Joan Walley | 591 c587 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Speaker. I think that the House would like some clarification as to whether what we...

John Bercow | 591 c587 (Link to this contribution)

Of course Members must listen to what the Minister has to say, but, for the avoidance of doubt, M...

Amber Rudd | 591 cc587-8 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you very much, Mr Speaker.

I will address new clause 7 on environmental impact assess...

Amber Rudd | 591 c588 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make some progress. I will give way again before the end of my comments, but I am c...

Helen Jones | 591 c588 (Link to this contribution)

Earlier, the Minister seemed to ask the House to rely on an order and on a commitment by the indu...

Amber Rudd | 591 c588 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady raises an interesting point. There is a lot that can be considered in primary legis...

Mark Menzies | 591 c589 (Link to this contribution)

I asked this on Second Reading and I ask it again today. Will those inspections be unannounced an...

Amber Rudd | 591 c589 (Link to this contribution)

The short answer to that is yes. The purpose of HSE inspections is to ensure that there is safety...

Amber Rudd | 591 c589 (Link to this contribution)

I will make progress, but I assure hon. Members that I will let them intervene before I finish.

Andrew Gwynne | 591 c589 (Link to this contribution)

I want to take the Minister back to what she said about the use of secondary legislation. She wil...

Amber Rudd | 591 c589 (Link to this contribution)

I am only sorry that the hon. Gentleman did not have time to listen to the Committee, where we sp...

Andrew Gwynne | 591 c589 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Speaker. Will you please rule on the Minister’s view, because she seems t...

John Bercow | 591 c589 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that that is a matter for the Chair. Members must make their own assessment. The h...

Amber Rudd | 591 cc589-590 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you for that clarification, Mr Speaker.

On the announcement I made in Committee, the ...

Jim Cunningham | 591 c590 (Link to this contribution)

Earlier in the Minister’s speech, she mentioned that she would use the Health and Safety Executiv...

Amber Rudd | 591 c590 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes an interesting point. It is essential that the HSE can do its job well. ...

David Anderson | 591 c590 (Link to this contribution)

In the Minister’s assessment prior to coming to the House, did she look at whether the Environmen...

Amber Rudd | 591 c590 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. It is essential that the Environment Agency and Heal...

Amber Rudd | 591 c590 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make progress.

On fugitive emissions, I have spoken about the report produced...

Andrew Miller | 591 c590 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Speaker.

John Bercow | 591 c590 (Link to this contribution)

I may be wrong, but I just have a slight sense that this might be a point not of order but of fru...

Andrew Miller | 591 c590 (Link to this contribution)

There is a lot of frustration in the debate, Mr Speaker. In Committee, the Government made an ext...

John Bercow | 591 c591 (Link to this contribution)

All sorts of things are helpful and all sorts of things are unhelpful, but they usually have one ...

Amber Rudd | 591 c591 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Speaker. The hon. Gentleman is right and asks an interesting question. I reassure h...

Amber Rudd | 591 c591 (Link to this contribution)

It was sent to every member of the Committee.

With regard to industry reporting commitments...

Amber Rudd | 591 c591 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make substantial progress. I am concerned that other hon. Members will not be able ...

Alan Whitehead | 591 c591 (Link to this contribution)

How can the Minister assure us about fugitive emissions and the safety of fracking when she propo...

Amber Rudd | 591 c591 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman raised that in Committee. We share his concern about safety and care for the c...

Amber Rudd | 591 cc591-2 (Link to this contribution)

I wish to make some progress.

A company looking to develop shale or deep geothermal will ne...

Amber Rudd | 591 c592 (Link to this contribution)

I will not: I am going to make some progress.

There is no question of changing the existing...

Eric Ollerenshaw | 591 c592 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister yet have a definition of “community” in this instance?

Amber Rudd | 591 c592 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has raised that issue before and I hope that we will hear from him later. As he wi...

Andrew Miller | 591 c592 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. Earlier in the Minister’s speech, she referred to a lette...

Lindsay Hoyle | 591 c592 (Link to this contribution)

That is not a point of order for the Chair, but the hon. Gentleman has clarified what he believes...

Amber Rudd | 591 cc592-3 (Link to this contribution)

The letter came from the Minister of State, Department for Transport, my right hon. Friend the Me...

Grahame Morris | 591 c593 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister indicate why she is not taking the opportunity to regulate and impose environme...

Amber Rudd | 591 cc593-4 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman raises an interesting point. I hope he will find that it will be dealt with la...

Caroline Lucas | 591 c594 (Link to this contribution)

What the Minister has said, essentially, is that DEFRA should not do research that might possibly...

Amber Rudd | 591 c594 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think the hon. Lady quite heard my comments. If somebody in another Department has prepa...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 591 c594 (Link to this contribution)

I think my hon. Friend would wish to put a message out to rural communities today that we take th...

Amber Rudd | 591 c595 (Link to this contribution)

Of course, my hon. Friend is absolutely right. The Government take very seriously the security, t...

Amber Rudd | 591 c595 (Link to this contribution)

I am concerned that I still need to cover several amendments. If I may, I shall move swiftly on, ...

Amber Rudd | 591 cc595-6 (Link to this contribution)

I shall not take any more interventions, as I must finish my comments.

Amendments 50, 68, 6...

William Cash | 591 c596 (Link to this contribution)

On that point, will my hon. Friend give way?

Amber Rudd | 591 c596 (Link to this contribution)

I will not, I am afraid, as I need to finish. I am sure other Members would like to speak.

...

Tom Greatrex | 591 c596 (Link to this contribution)

I have to say at the outset that if Members and those watching our proceedings were short of conf...

Simon Burns | 591 c597 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman will be aware that I was not a member of the Committee, but if it provides him...

Tom Greatrex | 591 c597 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Member for Chelmsford (Mr Burns) will be well aware that the Minister to whom he r...

Joan Walley | 591 c597 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister said that she had commented on every single amendment put forward from all sides of ...

Tom Greatrex | 591 c597 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend, who makes an important point. We are here to scrutinise this Bill, and we...

John Hayes | 591 c597 (Link to this contribution)

I have no desire to embarrass the hon. Gentleman—I regard him almost as a protégé, so I would nev...

Tom Greatrex | 591 c598 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to disappoint the Minister, given that I seem to have just been anointed his protégé. ...

Lord Soames of Fletching | 591 c598 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the hon. Member for Ellesmere Port and Neston (Andrew Miller) ...

Tom Greatrex | 591 c598 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that the right hon. Gentleman, who has himself tabled amendments to this part of the Bi...

Julian Lewis | 591 c598 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is being very courteous in giving way, but may I appeal to him, on behalf of m...

Tom Greatrex | 591 c598 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is usually a stickler for procedure. This is about scrutiny of the Bill, and w...

Lord Mann | 591 c598 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that this is also about potential applications that are due to be submi...

Tom Greatrex | 591 cc598-9 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has made an important point in a very cogent fashion.

Let me now deal with s...

Joan Walley | 591 c599 (Link to this contribution)

Has my hon. Friend had a chance to read the report that was published today by the Environmental ...

Tom Greatrex | 591 c599 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for her intervention. I did indeed have a chance to read her Committee’s r...

Caroline Lucas | 591 c599 (Link to this contribution)

On that point, will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Tom Greatrex | 591 c600 (Link to this contribution)

I am responding to an intervention. I have said I will not have time to give way again, as I know...

Tom Greatrex | 591 cc600-1 (Link to this contribution)

To be fair, I did say I was not going to give way again. I am conscious of time.

The Govern...

Tim Yeo | 591 c601 (Link to this contribution)

I draw attention to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests, and in particular t...

Pete Wishart | 591 c602 (Link to this contribution)

We will be pushing new clause 9 to a vote this evening to ensure that we have a proper moratorium...

Tim Yeo | 591 c602 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not support that. A moratorium would not serve Britain’s national interests.

Far...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 591 c602 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend accept that it is arguably safer to take a cautious approach before proceedin...

Tim Yeo | 591 c602 (Link to this contribution)

We should proceed as fast as possible, consistent with environmental safeguards, which the Govern...

Charles Hendry | 591 c602 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is talking about the extent to which we are increasingly dependent on imports. By ...

Tim Yeo | 591 cc602-3 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is exactly right. I was very tempted to sign his new clauses on that point. Improv...

Alan Whitehead | 591 c603 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman not accept that, according to all the projections produced by the Departm...

Tim Yeo | 591 c603 (Link to this contribution)

I do not entirely agree. The fall in gas consumption in the UK will not take it below the level a...

Andrew Miller | 591 c603 (Link to this contribution)

It is worth pointing out that the hon. Gentleman’s arguments about safety are supported by the Ro...

Tim Yeo | 591 c603 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that extremely pertinent point.

We have probably al...

Helen Jones | 591 c603 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Tim Yeo | 591 c603 (Link to this contribution)

I should now make progress, because other colleagues wish to speak, but I give way to my hon. Fri...

Gerald Howarth | 591 c603 (Link to this contribution)

I am concerned about the potential impact of subsidence from fracking. I represented Cannock and ...

Tim Yeo | 591 c604 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a very important point. I am glad to have the opportunity to say how welcome...

Joan Walley | 591 c604 (Link to this contribution)

I am conscious of the fact that we have about 20 minutes left for the debate, and that there are ...

Lord Mann | 591 c605 (Link to this contribution)

An application was made last year in Lound, in Bassetlaw, a former munitions site. The county cou...

Joan Walley | 591 c605 (Link to this contribution)

That is exactly the point—no one knows who has overall responsibility. The Environment Agency app...

Mark Lazarowicz | 591 c605 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right that we should be discussing that—actually, now is not when we should be ...

Joan Walley | 591 c605 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend about having more time. People in this country will not forgive us fo...

Mark Menzies | 591 c605 (Link to this contribution)

I endorse the comments the hon. Lady is making. I am now on to dealing with my fourth and fifth s...

Joan Walley | 591 c605 (Link to this contribution)

As we heard from the Minister just now, there may well be time for further amendments, because cl...

Gordon Marsden | 591 c606 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. The Minister has referred to the potential for further am...

Lindsay Hoyle | 591 c606 (Link to this contribution)

Let me help by saying that it would be possible for the Lords to look at that and do something ab...

Joan Walley | 591 c606 (Link to this contribution)

I am interested in that point of order because it sets out for us the situation we are in: we are...

Julian Huppert | 591 c606 (Link to this contribution)

I will try to be brief, Mr Deputy Speaker. It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Stoke-o...

Anne Main | 591 c606 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman share my concern that there is no obligation to make sure that renewables...

Julian Huppert | 591 cc606-7 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed; we should be seeing a quest for more renewables. One of my concerns about the dash for fr...

Julian Huppert | 591 c607 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way, because many Members wish to speak.

Other concerns have been mentioned...

Amber Rudd | 591 c607 (Link to this contribution)

Let me reassure the hon. Gentleman that we take this matter seriously. We will introduce a furthe...

Julian Huppert | 591 cc607-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that welcome news. I was going to talk about water usage, but I will tur...

Andrew Miller | 591 c608 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak in support of amendment 117, which is in my name. In Committee, I brought to Memb...

John Hayes | 591 c608 (Link to this contribution)

Let me give the hon. Gentleman that assurance. If the letter was not clear that is my fault, not ...

Andrew Miller | 591 c608 (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely grateful to the Minister, and ask him to clarify that matter in the Bill.

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 591 cc608-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the opportunity to speak to the amendments standing in my name, which were tabl...

Caroline Lucas | 591 c609 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry that there is such a lack of time to make a serious response to the amendments still o...

Caroline Lucas | 591 c609 (Link to this contribution)

No—I am sorry, but I am short of time.

Labour’s new clause 19 does not offer the kind of pr...

Anne Main | 591 c609 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome new clause 7 and the Minister’s comments on new clause 19(a), (e) and (m). I have chalk...

Alan Whitehead | 591 cc609-610 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to voice my support for new clause 19, which I believe provides a substantial series of ba...

Stephen Williams | 591 c623 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Lindsay Hoyle | 591 cc623-7 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

New clause 3—National Infrastruct...

Stephen Williams | 591 c627 (Link to this contribution)

The group touches on an incredibly wide range of issues, but I shall concentrate my remarks on th...

Robert Neill | 591 c627 (Link to this contribution)

May I welcome the new clause and thank the Minister, along with the Minister of State, Department...

Stephen Williams | 591 c628 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend, a former Minister in the Department, for his intervention. We did indeed ...

Andrew Miller | 591 c628 (Link to this contribution)

In Committee, I brought hon. Members’ attention to the fact that, while we were debating the Bill...

Stephen Williams | 591 c628 (Link to this contribution)

In recent weeks and months, the question of whether to set up a separate body has been much debat...

Nick Raynsford | 591 c628 (Link to this contribution)

In the light of those remarks, will the Minister tell the House whether the Government were right...

Stephen Williams | 591 c629 (Link to this contribution)

It is tempting to debate whether there should be a third runway at Heathrow or whether it should ...

Julian Lewis | 591 c629 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister reassure my constituents in public, as the Minister of State, Department for Tr...

Stephen Williams | 591 c629 (Link to this contribution)

I can repeat the reassurance—because he has just given it to me—that my right hon. Friend the Min...

Lord Beith | 591 c629 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister just mentioned the Bill’s relevance to the roads investment strategy, which I take t...

Stephen Williams | 591 cc629-630 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is an astute parliamentarian and he takes every opportunity to raise the dua...

Brian Binley | 591 c630 (Link to this contribution)

Is not the argument that the Minister has just made the perfect argument for new clause 16?

Stephen Williams | 591 cc630-1 (Link to this contribution)

It is not, because the planning use class orders deal with the totality of asset use classes righ...

Lord Soames of Fletching | 591 c631 (Link to this contribution)

This news will be warmly welcomed in Mid Sussex, where we have had some real trouble on this fron...

Stephen Williams | 591 c631 (Link to this contribution)

The Localism Act 2011, the regulations, the guidance issued by the Department and statements by M...

Anne Marie Morris | 591 c631 (Link to this contribution)

I am interested in the Minister’s comments. My concern is that where a council chooses not to det...

Stephen Williams | 591 cc631-2 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend came to see me to discuss a particular example in her constituency. I believe the ...

Martin Horwood | 591 c632 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend should be proud of his record in supporting local pubs, both nationally and locall...

Stephen Williams | 591 c632 (Link to this contribution)

I hear what my hon. Friend says. I can assure him that the Government have not pulled this rabbit...

Greg Mulholland | 591 c632 (Link to this contribution)

CAMRA fully supports new clause 16, which provides for a simpler, cheaper, less bureaucratic way ...

Stephen Williams | 591 cc632-3 (Link to this contribution)

I think that my hon. Friend—who has a good record of campaigning on behalf of beer drinkers and c...

Peter Luff | 591 c633 (Link to this contribution)

Let me begin by drawing attention to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests.

Stephen Williams | 591 c633 (Link to this contribution)

Yes. In this instance, terms such as “earliest opportunity”, “shortly” and “soon” really do mean ...

Jonathan Edwards | 591 c633 (Link to this contribution)

Has the Minister, or have the Government, given any thought to how the provisions relating to pub...

Stephen Williams | 591 c633 (Link to this contribution)

Although a newspaper is an important community asset in the widest sense, it is literally here to...

Andrew Miller | 591 c633 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister said that he would introduce secondary legislation during the current Parliament. Gi...

Stephen Williams | 591 c633 (Link to this contribution)

That is certainly the intention, but I do not want to be drawn into matters of parliamentary proc...

Roger Williams | 591 c634 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend said that the Welsh Government had not taken full advantage of the Localism Act. I...

Stephen Williams | 591 c634 (Link to this contribution)

Yes. That is exactly the position with which we are familiar all over the country. I have visited...

Andrew Bridgen | 591 c634 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has told us that once a public house has been listed as an asset of community value,...

Stephen Williams | 591 c634 (Link to this contribution)

Let me repeat what I said earlier. If a pub is listed as an asset of community value, the owner w...

Andrew Griffiths | 591 c634 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for this morning’s ministerial statement. Does he agree that, while his prop...

Stephen Williams | 591 c634 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has a long and proud record of campaigning on behalf of pubs, and I am encoura...

James Morris | 591 c634 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has not mentioned a very real risk that has been raised with me. Sandwell council is...

Stephen Williams | 591 c635 (Link to this contribution)

That is similar to examples that I gave earlier, in which councils were conservative, with a smal...

Andrew Gwynne | 591 c635 (Link to this contribution)

The process described by the Minister seems incredibly convoluted, not least because if a listing...

Stephen Williams | 591 c635 (Link to this contribution)

Precisely for the reasons just outlined in an intervention from the hon. Member for Burton (Andre...

Brian Binley | 591 c635 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend not realise that if a pub is boarded up and the issue goes to the local autho...

Stephen Williams | 591 c636 (Link to this contribution)

If there is a need for the pub to exist in the community—whether in Northampton or somewhere else...

Steve Brine | 591 c636 (Link to this contribution)

I was very attracted to new clause 16 before coming to today’s debate, but having listened to the...

Stephen Williams | 591 cc636-7 (Link to this contribution)

I wholeheartedly agree with my hon. Friend. What we have been saying to local authorities around ...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 591 c637 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I hesitate to interrupt the Minister and I appreciate that he has taken a great many inter...

Stephen Williams | 591 c637 (Link to this contribution)

Madam Deputy Speaker, your colleague Mr Deputy Speaker was in the Chair when I introduced my rema...

Rebecca Harris | 591 c637 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate that the Minister is saying that two thirds of council decisions are upheld, but is ...

Stephen Williams | 591 cc637-8 (Link to this contribution)

I hear what my hon. Friend says and she clearly has loud support for that.

Following your e...

Andrew Percy | 591 c638 (Link to this contribution)

What would the Minister say to people in Airmyn, in my constituency, who have just had a factory ...

Stephen Williams | 591 c638 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has put his remarks on the record. He will know that neither I nor any other Minis...

Nick Raynsford | 591 c638 (Link to this contribution)

When the Opposition urged the Minister’s colleague, who was leading on this issue, to do exactly ...

Stephen Williams | 591 cc638-9 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman enjoyed, I am sure, the deliberations in Committee, including my right h...

Roberta Blackman-Woods | 591 cc639-640 (Link to this contribution)

As the Minister acknowledged, there are a lot of amendments on different topics in this group, an...

Jonathan Edwards | 591 c640 (Link to this contribution)

Many of the sectors listed in new clause 3 are devolved. Has the hon. Lady given any thought to h...

Roberta Blackman-Woods | 591 cc640-2 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes an interesting point. We hope that an independent national infrastructur...

Lord Stunell | 591 c642 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Lady share my concern that the recent consultation was very cramped and gave nobody...

Roberta Blackman-Woods | 591 c642 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman makes a really good point, which we did not rehearse very well in Commit...

Stephen Williams | 591 c642 (Link to this contribution)

In case I cannot respond on that point later, I can say that it is definitely our intention that ...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 591 c642 (Link to this contribution)

Order. We have had a great many interventions in this debate. I appreciate that the shadow Minist...

Roberta Blackman-Woods | 591 cc642-3 (Link to this contribution)

It would be helpful if the Minister put some of those reassurances in writing.

Finally, as ...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 591 c643 (Link to this contribution)

I will be brief, to allow other Members to speak. We clearly need more time to debate major Bills...

Lord Soames of Fletching | 591 c643 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree with the thrust of my right hon. Friend’s argument. Does he agree that it is imm...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 591 cc643-4 (Link to this contribution)

I strongly agree with my right hon. Friend, who has been tireless in promoting the interests of l...

John Hayes | 591 c644 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making a powerful and persuasive case. Let me be absolutely clear: if the...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 591 c644 (Link to this contribution)

I very much welcome the Minister’s important intervention, and we look forward to that new guidan...

Nick Raynsford | 591 cc644-5 (Link to this contribution)

May I start by drawing attention to my interests, as declared in the register?

I agreed wit...

Charlotte Leslie | 591 cc645-6 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support new clause 16 and I will be brief. The Government have done a lot on pubs, but ...

Alan Whitehead | 591 c646 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the Minister on keeping a straight face while introducing his proposals for the Go...

Andrew Mitchell | 591 c647 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support two of the provisions tabled and ably espoused by my right hon. Friend the Memb...

Greg Mulholland | 591 cc647-8 (Link to this contribution)

I shall be as quick as possible, Madam Deputy Speaker. I had a conversation with the Minister of ...

Andrew Griffiths | 591 c648 (Link to this contribution)

I shall take a minute to tell hon. Members that we all need to see pubs protected and to see them...

Anne Main | 591 c648 (Link to this contribution)

My plea to the Minister is to consider issuing new guidance that will put an obligation on commer...

Richard Graham | 591 cc648-9 (Link to this contribution)

Like many people here this evening—

7.30 pm

Debate interrupted (Programme Order, this...

John Hayes | 591 c660 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 591 cc660-3 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

Government new clause 17—Route st...

John Hayes | 591 cc663-4 (Link to this contribution)

I rise with some enthusiasm because, as the House knows, cycling has moved up a gear as a result ...

David Rutley | 591 c664 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is making an important speech. He is setting out a very clear strategy, which is abs...

John Hayes | 591 c664 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right; not for the first time, he highlights these matters. That is precisely w...

Julian Huppert | 591 c664 (Link to this contribution)

On behalf of everyone else from the all-party cycling group, others who supported the new clause ...

John Hayes | 591 cc664-5 (Link to this contribution)

The new clause, should it turn from a vision to a proposal to a law, will facilitate that strateg...

Guy Opperman | 591 c665 (Link to this contribution)

I very much welcome this plan, because for too long we have had isolated, year-by-year approaches...

John Hayes | 591 c665 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, that is right. As I said, this is a significant change in terms of public policy assumptions...

Lord Beith | 591 c665 (Link to this contribution)

There is no better illustration of the Minister’s point than the history of A1 dualling over deca...

John Hayes | 591 c665 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman. As he knows, I am a frequent visitor to his constituen...

Greg Knight | 591 c666 (Link to this contribution)

Will the route strategies include strategies on speed limits? If so, does my right hon. Friend in...

John Hayes | 591 c666 (Link to this contribution)

Variable speed limits are part of the smart motorway schemes that we are doing immense work on. I...

John Hayes | 591 c666 (Link to this contribution)

On that basis, I am happy to listen to the hon. Lady.

Joan Walley | 591 c666 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way, because he is clearly a well travelled Minister, ju...

John Hayes | 591 c667 (Link to this contribution)

Let me say two things, the first of which is how much I enjoy giving evidence before the hon. Lad...

Joan Walley | 591 c667 (Link to this contribution)

Does what the Minister has just said amount to a legal duty? He has referred to the way in which ...

John Hayes | 591 cc667-8 (Link to this contribution)

Even my audacity does not allow me to make up legal duties on the hoof. I shall take away what th...

John McDonnell | 591 c668 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister clarify the difference between staff transferring under TUPE and under his prop...

John Hayes | 591 c668 (Link to this contribution)

I am coming to that. In shorthand, let me assure the hon. Gentleman that I do not want staff to b...

John Hayes | 591 cc668-9 (Link to this contribution)

I will make a little progress and then let the hon. Gentleman come back.

The Bill provides ...

Richard Burden | 591 c669 (Link to this contribution)

I should like to press the Minister to clarify Government amendment 116. From what he has said, i...

John Hayes | 591 c669 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman, with the courtesy he personifies, raised that with me before we came to the H...

John McDonnell | 591 c669 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister clarify why he has used a formulation unused in any other legislation in the pa...

John Hayes | 591 cc669-671 (Link to this contribution)

Originality and imagination are part of my style. I said style is as important as substance. The ...

Richard Burden | 591 cc671-5 (Link to this contribution)

Time is clearly short, so I will be as brief as I can be in having to cover a wide range of amend...

Baroness Primarolo | 591 c675 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I remind hon. Members that the debate ends in 16 minutes, because the knife will fall at 9...

Guy Opperman | 591 c675 (Link to this contribution)

It has been a long struggle for many of us, and I congratulate hon. Members of all parties on ins...

Joan Walley | 591 c676 (Link to this contribution)

Everyone is aware that the Environmental Audit Committee has now drawn up three reports on air qu...

Sarah Wollaston | 591 c676 (Link to this contribution)

I warmly welcome the cycling and walking strategy. It is not just a cycling and walking strategy;...

John McDonnell | 591 cc676-7 (Link to this contribution)

On Second Reading I echoed the fear that had been expressed by Highways Agency staff that this wa...

Julian Huppert | 591 cc677-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to have an opportunity to speak at the end of the debate, and to see the new cla...

John Hayes | 591 c679 (Link to this contribution)

I will address matters in reverse order to add excitement. On cycling and spending, I said at the...

John Hayes | 591 c685 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

This is a Bill for the long term. ...

Baroness Primarolo | 591 c685 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Perhaps Members leaving the Chamber could do so quietly. Secretary of State, that means yo...

John Hayes | 591 cc685-7 (Link to this contribution)

It is bewildering, Madam Deputy Speaker, that Members do not want to stay and hang on my every wo...

Andrew Mitchell | 591 c687 (Link to this contribution)

Before my right hon. Friend leaves the issue of planning, may I ask him about new clauses 12 and ...

John Hayes | 591 c687 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to amplify the remarks that I made in an earlier intervention and say that we do t...

Mark Menzies | 591 c687 (Link to this contribution)

As a Minister, my right hon. Friend has genuinely listened to the concerns of Members on both sid...

John Hayes | 591 cc688-9 (Link to this contribution)

This is an iterative business. No one has made the case more forcefully for their constituents th...

Richard Burden | 591 cc689-692 (Link to this contribution)

Toward the end of his remarks, the Minister praised members of the Bill Committee and adopted a c...

Mark Field | 591 c692 (Link to this contribution)

The development of an electronic communications code in part 7 has been closely followed in my co...

John Hayes | 591 c692 (Link to this contribution)

Just for clarity, the Government will move ahead with the reform of the communications code. We w...

Mark Field | 591 cc692-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am very encouraged by the Minister’s words and I know that that will be true of many of my comm...

Mike Weir | 591 cc693-4 (Link to this contribution)

Having heard the honeyed tones in which the Minister opened the debate for the Government, I feel...

Tom Greatrex | 591 c694 (Link to this contribution)

Given what the hon. Gentleman has said and new clause 2 on licensing, does he agree, as I suggest...

Mike Weir | 591 cc694-5 (Link to this contribution)

That is one of the few things on which the hon. Gentleman and I agree. I made that exact point ea...

Andrew Miller | 591 cc695-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Birmingham, Northfield (Richard Burden) for his kind remark...

John Bercow | 591 c696 (Link to this contribution)

The animation of the House knows no bounds when the right hon. Member for South Holland and The D...

John Hayes | 591 c696 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful, Mr Speaker. I simply want to affirm the thanks offered by those on the shadow Fron...

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