Mesothelioma Bill [Lords]

I thank the Minister and the shadow Minister for their words.

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

Amendment 11, in clause 1, page 1...

New clause 2 and the associated amendments were tabled by the right hon. Member for Wythenshawe a...

New clause 2 on the importance of research was tabled by my right hon. Friend the Member for Wyth...

I also add my best wishes to my right hon. Friend the Member for Wythenshawe and Sale East (Paul ...

I would like to associate myself with the thoughts and best wishes to the right hon. Member for W...

I rise first to pay tribute to the right hon. Member for Wythenshawe and Sale East (Paul Goggins)...

Obviously, I pay tribute to the work of my right hon. Friend the Member for Wythenshawe and Sale ...

I apologise for not being in the Chamber at the start of the debate; I was tied up in another mee...

I thank all hon. Members who have contributed to this debate, particularly the hon. Member for Ch...

I apologise for interrupting my hon. Friend’s flow; she was building on the comments from around ...

I am shocked to hear of the case that my hon. Friend reports. For anyone suffering terribly from ...

I paid tribute to the right hon. Member for Wythenshawe and Sale East (Paul Goggins) earlier. Whe...

This has been an incredibly hard debate for me to participate in. I do not think I have ever cont...

I beg to move amendment 5, page 1, line 15, leave out ‘25 July 2012’ and insert ‘10 February 2010...

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

Amendment 6, in clause 3, page 2,...

Before I explain the purpose of the three amendments that stand in my name, I want to make two mo...

Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that it is significant that a similar scheme under the 1979 A...

The hon. Gentleman is correct, but the issue before us today is the rules for a very specific sch...

Does my right hon. Friend agree that there have been so many injustices in this area? My brother,...

I care about this issue and I know my hon. Friend cares about it, too, and it is true that many M...

rose—

I give way to my hon. Friend who represents a similar constituency to mine with a similar history...

My right hon. Friend is absolutely right in what he says. I, too, want briefly to add my tribute ...

I wholly agree with my hon. Friend. We as a House should find a way of doing more. If we cannot d...

If the right hon. Gentleman presses his amendment to a Division he will have my support, but what...

I hope to make my position clear as I develop my arguments, but I want to do the best I can for t...

Will the right hon. Gentleman accept that of course the insurance industry is going to come in wi...

The answer to that is that they did take the premiums and prior to 2007 there was an assumption t...

I also want to echo the comments of colleagues who have paid tribute to the work of my right hon....

My hon. Friend will have his share of constituency cases, just as I do, and for the same reason: ...

It is important to remember that this is about employee liability in cases where the insurer cann...

I agree wholeheartedly with the Minister on that point. My thoughts are with the young children i...

Does the right hon. Gentleman also accept that the very people towards whom the incentive might b...

I agree 100% with the hon. Gentleman, who represents a community in Northern Ireland with exactly...

I apologise for not intervening on the right hon. Gentleman earlier before he moved on to this po...

I am grateful to the Minister for that intervention, and for its tone. The incentivisation argume...

The figure is £7,000, and the right hon. Gentleman is right to say that the figure comes out of t...

I understand what the Minister is saying, and we all travel in hope—I certainly travel with him i...

I entirely agree with the point my right hon. Friend is making. When the consultation was taking ...

My hon. Friend, who represents a community that faces exactly the same issues as mine for exactly...

The right hon. Gentleman has alluded to the fact that I am trapped within the funding parameters ...

I take it that when we are talking about “80 million” we are talking about money rather than abou...

I apologise if I have misled anyone; I was talking about the funding parameters I am restricted b...

On that last point, I am more aware than anyone else in this place could be of the forces that wo...

It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Newcastle upon Tyne East (Mr Brown), to whos...

I congratulate the hon. Lady on what she has done and on what she is saying so far today. I hope ...

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. Decades ago, the insurance industry wou...

My hon. Friend is making an excellent speech. She said that people will be looking at this debate...

I am very grateful to my hon. Friend for raising that issue. The people we represent share a simi...

I know that the point about traditional employment and so on has been reiterated many times, but ...

I am interested in the hon. Gentleman’s first point about occupations. We must be very clear that...

I speak as a former ship worker on the Clyde. I have seen at first hand the pressure that was bro...

My hon. Friend and I come from the same area of the Clyde, which has had a long tradition of ship...

My hon. Friend and neighbour is absolutely right. He, like me and many people who worked in the i...

In my constituency the kinds of activities that tended to provoke this condition, such as dock-re...

Order. Unfortunately, interventions have to be very short, because others want to speak. If inter...

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. The docks are another area where mesothelioma was a constant ...

My hon. Friend is making a good point about the moral limit, but does he agree that the whole con...

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. We now live in a society in which some of this country’s most...

My hon. Friend is making some excellent points. The clawback provisions mean that victims will ha...

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Do we really aspire to live in the kind of society that does ...

Is it not even more disgusting that the money clawed back is then given in compensation to the in...

As they say in the best pantomimes, the hon. Gentleman is absolutely right—you could not make it ...

I do not intend to delay the House for too long. Many of the points I wanted to make have already...

Like other hon. Members, I start by mentioning my right hon. Friend the Member for Wythenshawe an...

I am listening intently to the hon. Gentleman’s comments, but I am really disappointed by some of...

I accept the Minister’s intervention and I am not trying to be overly party political about the i...

It has been a decent debate this afternoon. I am not sure whether we are here to discuss how perf...

My hon. Friend is being his normal forthright self. Does he feel—as I do—that he is in the middle...

I totally agree with my hon. Friend. I have been through the Bill and I am puzzled by the fact th...

My hon. Friend is making a powerful argument. The very lifeblood of insurance companies is the as...

That possibly should have been considered, but we must remember that these insurance companies do...

The hon. Member is making a passionate speech, as he did on Second Reading, and he is rightly sta...

Every hon. Member who has spoken today understands that the insurance companies had to be dragged...

Does my hon. Friend accept that in terms of events in the workplace we are talking about identica...

Order. We need shorter interventions—there are quite a lot of other speakers to get in. Intervent...

This issue has been explained. This is not just a shipyard, mining or other heavy industry proble...

Does my hon. Friend agree that in 2007, as a result of the decision on pleural plaques, the insur...

That is absolutely true, and that strengthens the argument put forward with regard to the apparen...

May I politely correct the hon. Gentleman? The date in 2010 was when the previous Administration ...

Yes, the consultation document was issued in 2010, but the cut-off date in the Bill will be 25 Ju...

It is a privilege to follow the hon. Member for Wansbeck (Ian Lavery). He has brought the human s...

I have had my own experiences with the Attorney General when I was a Minister in Northern Ireland...

I want to come on to that agreement. As the hon. Member for Wansbeck (Ian Lavery) said, at the en...

Surely the nature of the insurance business in this respect is that the risk is spread over a who...

I wanted to come on to that point, so I will jump to it now. The risk is, of course, fairly minim...

My hon. Friend is making a compelling case. He is absolutely right about how the insurance compan...

I thank my hon. Friend.

Let me deal with the two amendments that deal with whether the comp...

We are very much focusing on what happened to the individuals who had the disease, but perhaps we...

We should, of course, bear in mind what it is like for any wife, husband or child who sees their ...

Like the hon. Gentleman, I could not see where the figure had come from. If the Minister has that...

I will happily give way to the Minister if he can provide an explanation. However, I should point...

I shall speak only briefly.

I support all Members on both sides of the House who are pushin...

My hon. Friend is making a powerful point, but does he agree that premiums should not be increase...

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Insurance companies now have an opportunity to do the right t...

If that was what happened I would agree with the hon. Gentleman, but that is not what happened. T...

The Minister is absolutely right; it has gone up from 70 to 75, but the case has been made powerf...

Does my hon. Friend agree that the deal that has been struck is allowing the insurance companies ...

My hon. Friend is right and that does not leave the insurance companies doing sufficient.

O...

I will try to keep my voice going if I can. I appreciate the work the Minister has done but this ...

As a trade unionist myself, I would have expected the TUC to contact me for a discussion, but it ...

I thank the Minister for his intervention, but I am talking about what the Prime Minister has don...

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Blaydon (Mr Anderson) and all the other hon. Membe...

It is the Government who are saying that a victim must do everything they possibly can to ensure ...

I stand corrected. However, that argument was made to me by representatives of the insurance indu...

I rise to speak to amendment 9 in my name and to support all the other amendments in this group. ...

May I reiterate the guarantee that I gave the hon. Lady in Committee and again today that it will...

I am grateful for that further assurance. On 10 December, the Minister said that 3% “is not going...

I again thank colleagues from all parties for the tone of the debate and the measured way in whic...

I agree with much of what the Minister has said. Will he respond to the point made by my hon. Fri...

What I have said in Committee and today is that there will be a review after four years. I have c...

I regret to hear what the Minister is saying. One thing he could do is to change the clawback fro...

Some things are out of my hands, and such is the legal situation in relation to clawback. I canno...

From what the Minister is saying and the feeling of the House, it may well be that the Bill is ju...

That is exactly what we are doing because there is a four-year review. It was announced in the ot...

I beg to move amendment 10, page 3, line 32, at end add—

‘(3) Clause 18(2)(a) of the Commis...

Order. Will Members please leave the Chamber quietly so that we can complete the business before ...

I reassure the Minister and the House that it is not my intention to press the amendment to a vot...

I thank the shadow Minister for tabling the amendment and for setting out her position early when...

Could the matter eventually be dealt with by means of delegated legislation?

I understand that that is possible. It could also be dealt with through a deregulation Bill. In a...

I am grateful to the Minister, I am also grateful to the hon. Member for Gainsborough (Sir Edward...

Just to have a little bit of fun with the hon. Lady, let me point out that, having first been acc...

It must be tough being the Minister. I am sure that all our sympathies go out to the hon. Gentlem...

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

It is an honour and a privilege to...

The Opposition welcome this opportunity to put a scheme into law that will provide a measure of p...

Has my hon. Friend had a response yet to the request in the letter she wrote to the Justice Secre...

I am pleased to tell my hon. Friend that I have had a response. In fairness to the Justice Secret...

I have given the hon. Lady quite a lot of latitude in respect of her comments about a parliamenta...

I am grateful to you, Madam Deputy Speaker.

The scheme that we will pass into law tonight i...

I am pleased that we have reached Third Reading of this Bill. It is a welcome Bill, but I remain ...

Let me place it on the record—I think I did this earlier—that my hon. Friend could not have done ...

I am grateful to the Minister for his comments. My constituency has high levels of mesothelioma b...

I, too, put on record my thanks to the shadow Minister, the hon. Member for Stretford and Urmston...

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Strangford (Jim Shannon). I am also pleased to spe...

I entirely agree with the hon. Gentleman about the debate on LASPO in which Government Members pl...

Indeed. My hon. Friend the Member for Chatham and Aylesford just whispered to me that new clause ...

I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this Third Reading debate. I have not taken part in...

Order. I am sorry to say to the hon. Gentleman that this is the Third Reading debate. It is not a...

I will indeed, Madam Deputy Speaker. I referred to new clause 3 simply because it was tabled by m...

Order. [Interruption.] The hon. Gentleman will sit down. I spoke to him very gently earlier. He h...

I am grateful for that guidance, Madam Deputy Speaker. I have made the point that I wanted to mak...