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Gambling (Licensing and Advertising) Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 5 November 2013, in the House of Commons, led by Helen Grant. The answering member was Clive Efford.
Second reading. Agreed to on question. Programme motion on proceedings in Public Bill Committee, Report, Third Reading and other proceedings. Agreed to on question. Ways and means resolution. Agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
570 cc125-228 
Session
2013-14
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Gambling (Licensing and Advertising) Bill 2013-14
Thursday, 9 May 2013
Bills
House of Commons
Gambling (Licensing and Advertising) Bill
Tuesday, 17 September 2013
Research briefings
Proceeding contributions
Helen Grant | 570 c125 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

British remote gambling regulation ...

Philip Davies | 570 c125 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister says that this is about regulation and stopping illegal activity. What proportion of...


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Helen Grant | 570 c125 (Link to this contribution)

At the end of the day, this is about establishing a level playing field. I hope that my hon. Frie...

Gerry Sutcliffe | 570 c125 (Link to this contribution)

Just to help the hon. Member for Shipley (Philip Davies), may I point out that this is an importa...

Helen Grant | 570 cc125-6 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes a good point.

The Bill will also level the playing field for the a...

Lord Dodds of Duncairn | 570 c126 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has kindly outlined the situation in Northern Ireland. Has she had discussions with ...

Helen Grant | 570 c126 (Link to this contribution)

I have not personally had any such discussions, but I am sure officials will have done so, and I ...

Guy Opperman | 570 c127 (Link to this contribution)

I support the Bill, and I agree with its aim to ensure that there is a level playing field. Will ...

Helen Grant | 570 c127 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a good point about the level playing field; that is certainly what the Bill ...

Jonathan Edwards | 570 c127 (Link to this contribution)

Regrettably, a number of my friends have got into huge difficulties through gambling on smartphon...

Helen Grant | 570 c127 (Link to this contribution)

This is exactly why we are seeking to regulate remote gambling. The process is quite circular in ...

John Leech | 570 c127 (Link to this contribution)

The Bill will also ensure that remote gambling organisations are paying something towards dealing...

Helen Grant | 570 c127 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. It is important that they should pay their fair share, just as the onshore companies ...

Robert Syms | 570 c127 (Link to this contribution)

Regarding the level playing field for domestically based businesses, the Minister will know that ...

Helen Grant | 570 c127 (Link to this contribution)

We will look at all the relevant information, and I am certainly happy to take another good look ...

David Nuttall | 570 c127 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister tell us how the measures in the Bill are to be enforced?

Helen Grant | 570 c127 (Link to this contribution)

We will go into this matter in considerable detail in Committee. Enforcement will be a matter for...

Laurence Robertson | 570 c128 (Link to this contribution)

If a company set up in, say, China or America, and advertised only through the internet, would it...

Helen Grant | 570 c128 (Link to this contribution)

Territorial restrictions have been removed, but if a company is advertising here and its facility...

Helen Grant | 570 c128 (Link to this contribution)

I must make some progress now.

I pay tribute to my hon. Friend the Member for Weston-super-...

Clive Efford | 570 cc128-9 (Link to this contribution)

I start by welcoming the Under-Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, the hon. Member f...

James Duddridge | 570 c129 (Link to this contribution)

I agree that there have been too many delays, but if the Labour party had not messed around with ...

Clive Efford | 570 cc129-130 (Link to this contribution)

As I said, the regulations on online gambling were introduced in 2007 and the issues relating to ...

James Duddridge | 570 c130 (Link to this contribution)

What the hon. Gentleman says is completely incoherent. He started by arguing that things should h...

Clive Efford | 570 c130 (Link to this contribution)

My point is that if the Bill addressed those issues, we could understand the delay, but it does n...

Philip Davies | 570 c130 (Link to this contribution)

I wish the hon. Gentleman the best of luck with all the questions he peppered at the Minister, mo...

Clive Efford | 570 c130 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman will know that the chief executive of the Gambling Commission said in the evid...

Guy Opperman | 570 c130 (Link to this contribution)

I have been listening with fascination to the hon. Gentleman’s great speech. Will he assist us by...

Clive Efford | 570 c130 (Link to this contribution)

Let me explain to Government Members that the Gambling Act 2005 was a major piece of legislation ...

Gerry Sutcliffe | 570 c131 (Link to this contribution)

The 2005 Act was the first parliamentary legislation on gambling since the 1960s. Betting changed...

Clive Efford | 570 c131 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the benefit of my hon. Friend’s knowledge of this issue. As he says, the Bill h...

Ian Lavery | 570 c131 (Link to this contribution)

Is there not a potential for illegal sites to crop up all over the internet, left, right and cent...

Clive Efford | 570 cc131-2 (Link to this contribution)

I think that we shall be seeking assurances from the Government on the issue of consumer protecti...

John Leech | 570 c132 (Link to this contribution)

One of the problems of the current system is that, while the likes of Gibraltar may have a fairly...

Clive Efford | 570 c132 (Link to this contribution)

I have seen no evidence suggesting that any white-listed countries have a significantly lesser re...

Paul Farrelly | 570 c132 (Link to this contribution)

I do not by any means agree with everything that is said by the Remote Gambling Association, but ...

Clive Efford | 570 cc133-4 (Link to this contribution)

There is a great deal of concern about the details of the Bill. It is easy to understand why it i...

Ian Lavery | 570 c134 (Link to this contribution)

Is there any reason whatever why spread betting, which is very complex and is different from any ...

Clive Efford | 570 c134 (Link to this contribution)

It is my understanding that because spread betting is seen as a financial transaction and commitm...

James Duddridge | 570 c134 (Link to this contribution)

In terms of introducing amendments on spread betting, should we not distinguish between sports be...

Clive Efford | 570 cc134-6 (Link to this contribution)

It can be difficult to draw a distinction between such transactions, and the hon. Gentleman has i...

Lady Hermon | 570 c136 (Link to this contribution)

May I gently take the hon. Gentleman back to one clause of the Bill and leave aside the things th...

Clive Efford | 570 cc136-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for her question. The Government are introducing the Bill, not me. I unders...

John Whittingdale | 570 c138 (Link to this contribution)

May I begin by reminding the House of my entry in the register showing that I paid a visit to Gib...

Paul Farrelly | 570 c138 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way on that point?

John Whittingdale | 570 c138 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure that there is anything on that point, but I am happy to give way.

Paul Farrelly | 570 c138 (Link to this contribution)

Following the hon. Gentleman’s discussions over the summer with the Gibraltar-based companies, ca...

John Whittingdale | 570 cc138-9 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman will have to ask the Gibraltar gaming authorities whether they intend to launc...

Philip Davies | 570 c139 (Link to this contribution)

I challenge my hon. Friend, who does a fantastic job as the Chair of the Select Committee, to sta...

John Whittingdale | 570 c139 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has made his view known during the course of our debates and I shall reach a concl...

Paul Farrelly | 570 c139 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Chair of the Select Committee agree that the example of Full Tilt Poker, which was licen...

John Whittingdale | 570 cc139-140 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman anticipates the next two words on my notes, which read “Full Tilt”. He is, of ...

Gerry Sutcliffe | 570 c140 (Link to this contribution)

Would not having sports betting rights be a good idea, so that we could sort out the definition o...

John Whittingdale | 570 c140 (Link to this contribution)

I think that would go rather further than defining sports betting and financial speculation and w...

Philip Davies | 570 c140 (Link to this contribution)

Is my hon. Friend aware that the Treasury has already given some estimates of the amount of money...

John Whittingdale | 570 cc140-1 (Link to this contribution)

That is a matter for the Treasury, but I agree with my hon. Friend that a 15% rate would have a d...

Chris Evans | 570 c141 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is making a succinct point, but does he agree that online customers are more p...

John Whittingdale | 570 c141 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is almost certainly right. Obviously, people go to high-street betting shops t...

Paul Farrelly | 570 c141 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Chairman of the Select Committee perhaps over-eggs fears of the black market, will he ...

John Whittingdale | 570 cc141-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to hear of the success of the company based in the hon. Gentleman’s constituency, ...

Baroness Bray of Coln | 570 c142 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted that my hon. Friend has raised this issue. Does he agree that we could usefully em...

John Whittingdale | 570 cc142-3 (Link to this contribution)

That is an interesting idea, but my hon. Friend’s suggestion runs straight into the problem—the a...

Gerry Sutcliffe | 570 cc143-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to follow the Chair of the Select Committee. I refer Members to my declara...

Philip Davies | 570 cc145-6 (Link to this contribution)

I refer the House to my entry in the Register of Members’ Interests.

It is a pleasure to fo...

Paul Farrelly | 570 c146 (Link to this contribution)

One of the main problems is the flight offshore. The hon. Gentleman referred to the 2012 Budget s...

Philip Davies | 570 cc146-7 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. I intend to talk about taxation more widely a little late...

Robert Syms | 570 c147 (Link to this contribution)

Is not there a broader issue? Sometimes the Government take firms based in the UK for granted, wh...

Philip Davies | 570 cc147-8 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right.

I want to touch on the levy, because a number of Member...

Chris Evans | 570 c148 (Link to this contribution)

Before the hon. Gentleman moves on from that point, does he agree that horse racing makes up 23% ...

Philip Davies | 570 c148 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome what the hon. Gentleman says. We should be very careful before going down any of these ...

Philip Davies | 570 c148 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, the levy would kick in only if my horse won some prize money, and given how rarely that happ...

John Bercow | 570 c149 (Link to this contribution)

Order. For the record, that was an intervention from Mr Duddridge, but it was uttered from a sede...

Philip Davies | 570 c149 (Link to this contribution)

I very much agree, Mr Speaker. My hon. Friend’s idleness is not to be commended. I will bear that...

Paul Farrelly | 570 c149 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman think that the Treasury really knows what it is talking about in making t...

Philip Davies | 570 c149 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman may have no faith in the Treasury. I am happy to go along with the Office for ...

David Nuttall | 570 c149 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend think that the reason why the Treasury is using the 20% figure is that it acc...

Philip Davies | 570 c150 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. As an occasional punter myself, I can speak with some authori...

Laurence Robertson | 570 c150 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making some excellent points. He talked about people being tempted to bet illeg...

Philip Davies | 570 cc150-1 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. He undersells how much he knows about this subject; he is far...

Robert Syms | 570 c151 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a very good point. The Gambling Commission already charges high fees on the ...

Philip Davies | 570 c152 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a very good point.

Lindsay Hoyle | 570 c152 (Link to this contribution)

Order. May I suggest to the hon. Gentleman that it is not Friday today and that, although I know ...

Philip Davies | 570 c152 (Link to this contribution)

You are absolutely right, Mr Deputy Speaker: it is not Friday.

Lindsay Hoyle | 570 c152 (Link to this contribution)

My worry is that you think it is a Friday, when you usually speak for hours—that’s what’s botheri...

Philip Davies | 570 cc152-3 (Link to this contribution)

For once, Mr Deputy Speaker, you are quite wrong. I have been racing through my comments, which I...

David Nuttall | 570 c153 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree not only that those companies employ British workers in this country, b...

Philip Davies | 570 cc153-4 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. People ought to bear in mind a number of very small companies...

Paul Farrelly | 570 c154 (Link to this contribution)

It is always a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Shipley (Philip Davies), who is knowledgeab...

Paul Farrelly | 570 cc154-7 (Link to this contribution)

It is bet365, which is the biggest UK operator and perhaps now the biggest operator worldwide. Ho...

Robert Syms | 570 cc156-8 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support the Bill, although I am a little disappointed that it is so narrowly drawn as I...

Gerry Sutcliffe | 570 c158 (Link to this contribution)

That is why it is important to consider issues that have been wrong for some time and put them ri...

Robert Syms | 570 cc158-9 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman raises a good point. We are dealing with a specific problem, and as my hon. Fr...

Chris Evans | 570 cc159-162 (Link to this contribution)

I refer the House to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests, and I welcome the ...

James Duddridge | 570 cc162-3 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Member for Islwyn (Chris Evans) for the timely completion of his speech, which a...

Gerry Sutcliffe | 570 c163 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman will recognise that Governments can sometimes apply pressure, which is what we...

James Duddridge | 570 cc163-4 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. I have had a number of discussions about individual gamblers in Southend who have put...

Jim Shannon | 570 cc164-7 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the Minister on her new position and look forward to her response to the debate.

John Leech | 570 cc167-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to have this opportunity to speak in favour of the Bill. It will go a long way tow...

Philip Davies | 570 cc168-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for quoting so extensively from our Select Committee report, ...

John Leech | 570 c169 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his helpful intervention. My impression from the evidence we took ...

Laurence Robertson | 570 cc169-170 (Link to this contribution)

It has been a good debate with many powerful arguments being made. I am in favour of the general ...

Brian Binley | 570 c170 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend mentions taxation. Does he agree that the Treasury seems to be turning a deaf ear ...

Laurence Robertson | 570 c170 (Link to this contribution)

I shall have to accept my hon. Friend’s word on that, as I always do on everything. I have no exp...

Philip Davies | 570 c170 (Link to this contribution)

Should we not also recognise that bookmakers are giving an increasing amount of money to horse ra...

Laurence Robertson | 570 cc170-1 (Link to this contribution)

The bookmakers give money to horse racing through picture rights, through the levy, through volun...

Clive Efford | 570 cc171-3 (Link to this contribution)

As always when we discuss issues relating to betting and horse racing, this has been a good debat...

Clive Efford | 570 cc173-4 (Link to this contribution)

I will not, if the hon. Gentleman does not mind, because I have been given only a few minutes to ...

Helen Grant | 570 cc174-5 (Link to this contribution)

With the leave of the House, I thank all Members who have taken part in the debate. I shall try t...

Helen Grant | 570 cc175-6 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid I will not, because I have very limited time and still have an awful lot to say.

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