My right hon. Friend mentions how things have changed over 40 years and how things have happened. It is clear from this debate how things have moved on. The clandestine community is very different from what it was in the past. It is now scrutinised in a way that has never been done before. We can now mention John Sawyer and Jonathan Evans, names that could never even be mentioned in the Chamber, let alone in MI5 or MI6. Will he concede that we are now having to look at a new level of scrutiny, and that that is why these CMPs have to be put in place. Forty years ago, we could not even discuss the matter.
Justice and Security Bill [Lords]
Proceeding contribution from
Tobias Ellwood
(Conservative)
in the House of Commons on Monday, 4 March 2013.
It occurred during Debate on bills on Justice and Security Bill [Lords].
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