Westminster Hall debate on a motion for the adjournment on the Common Agricultural Policy.
Common Agricultural Policy
Adjournment debate on Thursday, 8 March 2012,
in the House of Commons,
led by Baroness McIntosh of Pickering.
The answering
member was James Paice.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
541 c343-88WH 
Session
2010-12
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
Common Agricultural Policy after 2013. Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Select Committee fifth report, with formal minutes. Additional written evidence is contained in volume III, available on the Parliament website.
Tuesday, 5 April 2011
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Tuesday, 5 April 2011
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Common Agricultural Policy after 2013. Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Select Committee fifth special report - government response to the Committee's fifth report of session 2010-11 (HC 671).
Wednesday, 29 June 2011
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Wednesday, 29 June 2011
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Barry Gardiner | 541 c346WH (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Lady for setting out the Committee's report so clearly and for initiating ...
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 541 c346WH (Link to this contribution)
I will come on to say a bit about that if time permits. I have personal reasons that relate to const...
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Andrew George | 541 c346WH (Link to this contribution)
On direct payments, the hon. Lady will know—I know that the Select Committee has considered this iss...
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 541 c345-6WH (Link to this contribution)
That is an excellent intervention. If the hon. Gentleman bears with me, I shall come on to those ver...
Ian Jnr Paisley | 541 c345WH (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Lady for giving way in this very important debate. Does she accept—and has the Comm...
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 541 c345WH (Link to this contribution)
The evidence we received was very clear in that regard: as long as there is a level of farm support ...
Kelvin Hopkins | 541 c345WH (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady makes a point about the importance of food security for the long-term future and for m...
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 541 c345WH (Link to this contribution)
We will return to greening measures in our further report. The greening measures are the most contro...
Julian Sturdy | 541 c345WH (Link to this contribution)
I refer to my entry in the Register of Members' Financial Interests. My hon. Friend is making a key ...
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 541 c344-5WH (Link to this contribution)
For the sake of clarity, I am addressing the House as Chair of the Environment, Food and Rural Affai...
Glyn Davies | 541 c344WH (Link to this contribution)
Even though I am making an intervention, I should declare an interest as a farmer. Does the hon. Lad...
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 541 c343WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a great privilege to serve under your chairmanship this afternoon, Mr Weir. The Select Committ...
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 541 c344WH (Link to this contribution)
I am sure the Minister will have heard that. That proposition was not put before the Committee and w...
Paul Flynn | 541 c343-4WH (Link to this contribution)
In view of the change in farmers' prosperity—there have been better times recently, particularly in ...
George Eustice | 541 c355-7WH (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is right, except that I was not actually in the European Parliament. I was a cand...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 541 c355WH (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman has great experience in the European Parliament, and I want to put one point to h...
George Eustice | 541 c354-5WH (Link to this contribution)
As I will say later, we need common objectives, but not necessarily a common policy. We also need cl...
Eilidh Whiteford | 541 c352-3WH (Link to this contribution)
Absolutely. That has been an historic problem, and this is an opportunity to address it. The Commiss...
Alan Reid | 541 c352WH (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady rightly said that that direct payment should be linked to active farming. Does she agr...
Eilidh Whiteford | 541 c352WH (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes a good point about his constituency. The picture in Scotland is more mixed....
Simon Hart | 541 c352WH (Link to this contribution)
I imagine that the hon. Lady has similar examples to ours in Wales. Farm businesses that have tradit...
Roger Williams | 541 c354WH (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for making that point, but does he not agree that if we are to have a com...
George Eustice | 541 c353-4WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the previous speakers.
I am a member of the EFRA Committee, and I agree ...
Eilidh Whiteford | 541 c353WH (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes a valid point, which touches on one of the key struggles that I mentioned a...
Barry Gardiner | 541 c353WH (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the hon. Lady on the importance of local understanding in the distribution of funds; th...
Glyn Davies | 541 c351WH (Link to this contribution)
I want to return to the point that I made when I intervened earlier. I think that there is general a...
Eilidh Whiteford | 541 c350-1WH (Link to this contribution)
I agree entirely with the hon. Gentleman. Clearly, we have different climates and landscapes, divers...
Eilidh Whiteford | 541 c351-2WH (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman raises a valid point. In their current form, the greening proposals are probably ...
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 541 c346-7WH (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman and distinguished member of the Select Committee for those remar...
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 541 c347WH (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for that clarification because the Committee was led to believe that that was the desi...
James Paice | 541 c347WH (Link to this contribution)
I need to point out to my hon. Friend and, indeed, to the hon. Member for Brent North (Barry Gardine...
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 541 c347-9WH (Link to this contribution)
With the greatest respect, I have addressed capping, having a CAP and the historic reasons why we ar...
Paul Flynn | 541 c347WH (Link to this contribution)
Moving away from the principle of subsidising food production to subsidising the ownership of land, ...
Roger Williams | 541 c350WH (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady touches on an important point. A common agricultural policy is needed, but considering...
Eilidh Whiteford | 541 c349-50WH (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee and its Chair on the report and the...
Eilidh Whiteford | 541 c379WH (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister press for a fairer deal for Scottish farmers in the pillar one support, because we...
James Paice | 541 c377-9WH (Link to this contribution)
Good afternoon, Mr Sheridan. I thank the hon. Member for Ogmore (Huw Irranca-Davies) for that expres...
Kelvin Hopkins | 541 c368WH (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. I do not flatter myself, but a bit of advice here and there might have been helpful.
The Go...
Kelvin Hopkins | 541 c367-8WH (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. Had I been at his side, I would perhaps have advised him rather differently, but I was never...
Daniel Kawczynski | 541 c368WH (Link to this contribution)
That was his undoing.
Kelvin Hopkins | 541 c366-7WH (Link to this contribution)
I apologise, Mr Sheridan, for not being here for some of the debate. I have been trying to speak in ...
Neil Parish | 541 c367WH (Link to this contribution)
I think the mistake made by Prime Minister Tony Blair at the time was that he gave away the rebate w...
George Eustice | 541 c365WH (Link to this contribution)
If the UK is putting forward good ideas and they are ignored because they come from us, the failure ...
Barry Gardiner | 541 c365-6WH (Link to this contribution)
Of course, in principle, we should all work from a basis of fact, science and what is rational and r...
Barry Gardiner | 541 c363-5WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to speak in the debate, Mr Weir, particularly under your knowledgeable chairmanship...
Neil Parish | 541 c362-3WH (Link to this contribution)
The shadow Minister is right that there is good regulation, but he must also admit that there is far...
Eilidh Whiteford | 541 c361WH (Link to this contribution)
In recent months, the poultry industry has had to compete on an unfair basis, thanks to EU rules tha...
Neil Parish | 541 c361WH (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady is absolutely right. It is a travesty of justice that the rest of Europe has not compl...
Barry Gardiner | 541 c361WH (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely agree with the points that the hon. Gentleman makes. He may be sympathetic to this sugg...
Neil Parish | 541 c361-2WH (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is right. We have very competitive agriculture, and our country can compete well....
Ian Jnr Paisley | 541 c357WH (Link to this contribution)
At the outset, I thank the hon. Member for Thirsk and Malton (Miss McIntosh) for the way in which sh...
George Eustice | 541 c357WH (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman recognise that when New Zealand abandoned its subsidies it substantially dev...
Ian Jnr Paisley | 541 c357-60WH (Link to this contribution)
That is an interesting debate in its own right; there could be a good examination of what has happen...
Neil Parish | 541 c360-1WH (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Chairman of the Select Committee for securing this debate, because it is important that ...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 541 c362WH (Link to this contribution)
I make one point in defence of regulation, which is that there is good and bad regulation. There is ...
James Paice | 541 c384-5WH (Link to this contribution)
Yes.
We will have a £20 million scheme for skills and training. My right hon. Friend the Secretary ...
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 541 c387-8WH (Link to this contribution)
I thank everyone for contributing to the debate. I thank the Minister for being so generous in updat...
James Paice | 541 c386-7WH (Link to this contribution)
Thank you for reminding me, Mr Sheridan.
I will not say that we have developed a rigid blueprint sy...
Speaker | 541 c386WH (Link to this contribution)
Before I call the Minister, may I remind hon. Members that I wish to leave five minutes for the Chai...
James Paice | 541 c382WH (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman.
I have two further short points to make about greening. First,...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 541 c382WH (Link to this contribution)
Equivalence is a welcome development. Although, understandably, the focus of the UK negotiating team...
James Paice | 541 c382WH (Link to this contribution)
I will let the hon. Gentleman intervene. I suppose that I have provoked him.
Barry Gardiner | 541 c382WH (Link to this contribution)
Not at all. I apologise that I have to leave, Mr Sheridan. I am delighted to hear what the Minister ...
James Paice | 541 c382-4WH (Link to this contribution)
The best answer I can give the hon. Gentleman is to point to what the Commissioner said at the NFU c...
James Paice | 541 c380-1WH (Link to this contribution)
I am very happy to address that. Indeed, I addressed it yesterday in the Scottish Parliament. I am n...
James Paice | 541 c381-2WH (Link to this contribution)
Give me a minute. I see that the hon. Gentleman is anxious to leave. I am sorry if I have bored him ...
James Paice | 541 c379WH (Link to this contribution)
I was going to come to that point. The hon. Lady referred in her speech to the fact that I was in Sc...
James Paice | 541 c379WH (Link to this contribution)
Ladies first.
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 541 c379-80WH (Link to this contribution)
We are benefiting from the fact that the Government's thinking has moved on. If the Government are e...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 541 c380WH (Link to this contribution)
When the Minister enters the final stages of the negotiations, he will draw up a list of priorities ...
Speaker | 541 c377WH (Link to this contribution)
I think the hon. Gentleman's voice held out well there. In fact, it got stronger as he went on.
Huw Irranca-Davies | 541 c368-77WH (Link to this contribution)
It is a delight to attend this debate on the reform of the common agricultural policy; only three or...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 541 c385WH (Link to this contribution)
The Minister has expanded on many points, for which we are grateful.
One of the things that we and ...
James Paice | 541 c380WH (Link to this contribution)
I have never suggested that agri-environment schemes will make the industry more competitive. I will...
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