Parliamentary search - Local Government Finance Bill

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Parliamentary proceeding

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538 c79-150

Session

2010-12

Department

Department for Communities and Local Government

Legislative stage

Second reading

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House of Commons chamber

Local Government Finance Bill. Explanatory Notes Bill 265-EN also published.
Monday, 19 December 2011
Bills
House of Commons

Deferred division
Wednesday, 11 January 2012
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Commons

Proceeding contributions

Speaker | 538 c94 (Link to this contribution) Order. Twenty-six Back Benchers have indicated that they wish to speak in the debate, which is due t...

Robert Neill | 538 c130-1 (Link to this contribution) Some 26 Members have spoken in the debate, and I too apologise if I cannot follow every one of the i...

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Helen Jones | 538 c128-30 (Link to this contribution) This has been an interesting debate, marked by a number of contributions from people with real exper...

Mark Pawsey | 538 c127-8 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Halesowen and Rowley Regis (James Morris), a fellow member of ...

James Morris | 538 c126-7 (Link to this contribution) Britain has one of the most centralised systems of local government finance in the developed world, ...

Sheila Gilmore | 538 c126 (Link to this contribution) It is people in work who will suffer in particular. Of course, this localising Government are not pr...

Andrew Gwynne | 538 c125 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making a really interesting point about the perverse incentives that the Bill will...

Sheila Gilmore | 538 c125 (Link to this contribution) I want to talk about council tax benefit. The hon. Member for Harrow East (Bob Blackman) is one of t...

Bob Blackman | 538 c124-5 (Link to this contribution) I believe that the first three years of the coalition Government will be remembered for three things...

Alex Cunningham | 538 c123-4 (Link to this contribution) I have no doubt that communities such as mine, and perhaps the hon. Gentleman's, will be affected. I...

Jim Shannon | 538 c123 (Link to this contribution) Will not the 10% reduction also mean more poverty and homelessness? How will that affect the hon. Ge...

Robert Neill | 538 c131-2 (Link to this contribution) That confirms my view that there is an illusion that the racking up of debt is somehow beneficial to...

Robert Neill | 538 c132-3 (Link to this contribution) I have given way once and I shall not give way again. I am sure the hon. Lady will have plenty of op...

Lord Watts | 538 c131 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?

Helen Jones | 538 c131 (Link to this contribution) Would the hon. Gentleman like to tell us how much was invested in those regions by the Labour Govern...

Robert Neill | 538 c131 (Link to this contribution) There has been little time, and I intend to make a few points, if I may. Secondly, and particularly...

Bill Esterson | 538 c116 (Link to this contribution) I am glad the Minister made that comment, because it gives me the chance to make the point that that...

Bill Esterson | 538 c115 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who is absolutely right. The Secretary of State made similar remark...

Steve Rotheram | 538 c115 (Link to this contribution) Would my hon. Friend be surprised to hear that when I asked the Secretary of State, in this very Hou...

Lord Beamish | 538 c117 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman realise that his council will also have to take responsibility for council t...

Eric Ollerenshaw | 538 c117 (Link to this contribution) At this stage of the debate we always try not to double up on what others have said, but the hon. Me...

Bill Esterson | 538 c116-7 (Link to this contribution) The Minister says it is the same old record—but it is the same old Tories doing the same old things ...

Lord Stunell | 538 c116 (Link to this contribution) It's the same old record.

Eric Ollerenshaw | 538 c117-8 (Link to this contribution) From what I hear from my councils, that is not the prospect that they are looking forward to. Lancas...

Lord Beamish | 538 c118-9 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to follow the hon. Member for Lancaster and Fleetwood (Eric Ollerenshaw), who is living...

Lord Pickles | 538 c120 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the hon. Gentleman suggested only inadvertently that I was talking about the feckless...

Lord Beamish | 538 c119-20 (Link to this contribution) It is exactly. Let us look at what this Government and this Secretary of State have done on local go...

Speaker | 538 c120 (Link to this contribution) Order. Those on the Government Front Bench need to come to order. I think that the Under-Secretary o...

Lord Beamish | 538 c120 (Link to this contribution) I was not putting words into the right hon. Gentleman's mouth, but I have to say that he is continui...

Jim Shannon | 538 c120 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Lord Beamish | 538 c120 (Link to this contribution) The proposals are going to affect many low-paid families in my constituency and elsewhere in the nor...

Jackie Doyle-Price | 538 c121-2 (Link to this contribution) I would like to give an enthusiastic welcome to the provisions in the Bill, unlike the previous spea...

Lord Beamish | 538 c120-1 (Link to this contribution) Unfortunately I cannot, as I have very little time left. Let us not be conned by the Secretary of S...

Steve Rotheram | 538 c119 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that all this is the continuation of a policy, which was tried out in the ...

Alex Cunningham | 538 c122-3 (Link to this contribution) With about 186,000 people and two MPs, the Stockton borough is one of the smallest unitary authoriti...

Alison Seabeck | 538 c107-8 (Link to this contribution) I draw the House's attention to my indirect interests in the Register of Members' Financial Interest...

Iain Stewart | 538 c108-9 (Link to this contribution) I shall focus my comments on the business rate proposals, and I should like to share with the House ...

Tristram Hunt | 538 c109-11 (Link to this contribution) It is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Milton Keynes South (Iain Stewart). I am insti...

Marcus Jones | 538 c111-2 (Link to this contribution) I give my broad support to the Bill and its Second Reading this evening. It will enable the start of...

Ben Gummer | 538 c103-4 (Link to this contribution) It was said at the beginning of the debate that we live in one of the most centralised states in Eur...

John Healey | 538 c104-5 (Link to this contribution) The Bill brings about the most fundamental change in local government funding since the poll tax. Li...

George Hollingbery | 538 c105-7 (Link to this contribution) I should like to draw Members' attention to my entry in the Register of Members' Financial Interests...

Damian Collins | 538 c113-5 (Link to this contribution) In the short time available I wish to focus my remarks on business rates and tax increment financing...

Heidi Alexander | 538 c112-3 (Link to this contribution) Given the time constraints, I will focus my remarks on part 1 of the Bill, which deals with local bu...

Bill Esterson | 538 c115 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak about the business rates proposals, the many gaps in the Bill and the unanswered quest...

Nick Raynsford | 538 c101-3 (Link to this contribution) First, may I draw attention to my interest, as declared in the register? The Bill speaks volumes ab...

Hilary Benn | 538 c90-4 (Link to this contribution) That is not true in relation to local authorities such as my authority. For example, the number of c...

Clive Betts | 538 c96-7 (Link to this contribution) I am a localist. I believe that this country is too centralist and that, in order to further localis...

Henry Smith | 538 c95-6 (Link to this contribution) It was a great privilege to speak in last year's Second Reading of what is now the Localism Act 2011...

Speaker | 538 c98 (Link to this contribution) Order. I call Jonathan Reynolds.

Annette Brooke | 538 c97-8 (Link to this contribution) As is declared in the Register of Members' Financial Interests, I am a part-owner of a very small bu...

Andrew Bridgen | 538 c100-1 (Link to this contribution) I welcome this Bill as yet another example of this Government's commitment to localism, private sect...

Marcus Jones | 538 c90 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman extols the virtues and fairness that there seem to be have been in the loca...

Hilary Benn | 538 c89-90 (Link to this contribution) First of all, if we are talking about centralisation, the hon. Gentleman needs to think about who na...

Ben Gummer | 538 c89 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman professes to be in favour of localism and to want to see it in local govern...

Hilary Benn | 538 c89 (Link to this contribution) I would merely say this. First, if councils had a choice between the system under the last Labour Go...

George Hollingbery | 538 c89 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman really must make his mind up. On the one hand, he rejects a system red in t...

Hilary Benn | 538 c89 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right, anticipating one or two points I intend to make later in my spee...

Lord Beamish | 538 c89 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my right hon. Friend about the centralisation of powers. The one power that is being gi...

Lord Beamish | 538 c88 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Hilary Benn | 538 c88 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman bear with me for a moment? Under the Bill, the Secretary of State will dete...

Ben Gummer | 538 c88 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Lord Pickles | 538 c85-6 (Link to this contribution) In a moment. Part of the Opposition now concedes that the housing benefit bill is too big and needs...

Jonathan Edwards | 538 c85 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?

Hilary Benn | 538 c86-8 (Link to this contribution) I should like begin by wishing the Secretary of State—and, indeed, you and all other Members, Madam ...

Lord Pickles | 538 c84 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a reasonable point, but I would put it this way:"““Beveridge would have wan...

Clive Betts | 538 c84 (Link to this contribution) The reality, surely, is that on day one councils will receive what they are currently paying out in ...

Lord Pickles | 538 c85 (Link to this contribution) Local authorities are statutorily obliged to deliver a scheme, and that scheme needs to be approved,...

Mark Field | 538 c84-5 (Link to this contribution) I very much support the idea of innovation and flair, and allowing for inventiveness, which will cer...

Lord Pickles | 538 c83 (Link to this contribution) Before the right hon. Gentleman responds, I would like to add something else. I can see that we are ...

Lord Pickles | 538 c83-4 (Link to this contribution) The whole point about TIF 2 is that it goes beyond a reset. That is why there needs to be a degree o...

John Healey | 538 c83 (Link to this contribution) I wish the Secretary of State good luck in seeking that Treasury co-operation. He will understand th...

Lord Pickles | 538 c81-2 (Link to this contribution) Yes, of course. The idea is to give the maximum incentive to councils. That is how the system is bei...

Lord Pickles | 538 c82 (Link to this contribution) I feel a little stung because I have always been most helpful to the right hon. Gentleman. Clause 1...

Bob Blackman | 538 c82 (Link to this contribution) I thank my right hon. Friend for giving way on this key issue. One of the key concerns for people ra...

Lord Pickles | 538 c82 (Link to this contribution) I give way to the right hon. Gentleman, the architect of our present system.

Nick Raynsford | 538 c82 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Secretary of State but I have to say that many other people besides me were arc...

Lord Pickles | 538 c83 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman makes an important point. He will know, because he has taken an interest, t...

Lord Pickles | 538 c82-3 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend raises an important point about the very nature of business rates. There is a high de...

John Healey | 538 c83 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Secretary of State for giving way on the point about tax increment financing sc...

Lord Pickles | 538 c80 (Link to this contribution) Frankly, I am amazed by that contribution, because Durham will be one of the big beneficiaries of th...

Helen Goodman | 538 c80 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid the Secretary of State's view is not shared by Durham county council, which believes it ...

Lord Pickles | 538 c80 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady needs to look at the facts. Durham will be a beneficiary. The level of support it will...

Mark Field | 538 c80 (Link to this contribution) I very much welcome the principle of allowing local authorities to retain a proportion of their busi...

Lord Pickles | 538 c81 (Link to this contribution) Of course, in that process of revaluation, we would seek to adjust the multiplier so that it had a n...

Lord Sharma | 538 c81 (Link to this contribution) I welcome these reforms, which will incentivise local authorities and local government to encourage ...

Lord Pickles | 538 c81 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to confirm that fact to my hon. Friend, because he raises an important point about local ...

Lord Beamish | 538 c81 (Link to this contribution) Yes, it is.

Lord Pickles | 538 c81 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether colleagues were listening but I heard an Opposition Member say that economic s...

Jim Fitzpatrick | 538 c81 (Link to this contribution) As part of the south-east phenomenon—the area that I represent covers Canary Wharf and the London bo...

Lord Pickles | 538 c79-80 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time. It is a relief to be called after all that ...

Lord Beamish | 538 c80 (Link to this contribution) I spent nearly 12 years in local government, and I accept that it is an important catalyst for encou...

Lord Stunell | 538 c116 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman recognise that in the past five years Sefton has had an annual increase in i...

Jonathan Reynolds | 538 c98-100 (Link to this contribution) The Government's promise today is that the measures contained in the Bill will encourage local econo...

Hilary Benn | 538 c88-9 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend bear with me for a moment? The Secretary of State will determine safety net pay...

Subjects

Council tax benefits

Capital investment

Council tax

Empty property

Local government

Local government finance

Business rates

Reform

Valuation

Regeneration

Legislation

Local Government Finance Bill 2010-12 to 2012-13

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