Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill. Second reading debate. Agreed to on division (295 votes to 212). Programme motion on proceedings in Public Bill Committee, on Report and Third reading and any other proceedings. Agreed to on division (289 votes to 205). Ways and means resolution agreed to on question. Queen's recommendation signified. Money resolution agreed to on question.
[Relevant documents: The Third Report from the Justice Committee, Government's proposed reform of legal aid, HC 681, and the Government response, Cm 8111.]
Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill
Debate on bills on Wednesday, 29 June 2011,
in the House of Commons,
led by Lord Clarke of Nottingham.
The answering
member was Sadiq Khan.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
530 c984-1073 
Session
2010-12
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill. Explanatory Notes Bill 205-EN also published. (Vote)
Tuesday, 21 June 2011
Bills
House of Commons
Tuesday, 21 June 2011
Bills
House of Commons
The Government's proposed reform of legal aid. Government reponse to the Justice Select Committee's third report of session 2010-11. (HC 681).
Tuesday, 21 June 2011
Command papers
House of Commons
Tuesday, 21 June 2011
Command papers
House of Commons
The Government's proposed reform of legal aid. Justice Select Committee third report with formal minutes, evidence and appendices. Additional written evidence is contained in volume III, available on the committee website at www.parliament.uk/justicecttee
Tuesday, 15 March 2011
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Tuesday, 15 March 2011
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Speaker | 530 c984 (Link to this contribution)
Before I call the Lord Chancellor, I should say that this Second Reading debate is well subscribed. ...
Speaker | 530 c1031 (Link to this contribution)
Order. Just before I bring the next speaker in, I am going to reduce the time limit to six minutes. ...
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Tom Brake | 530 c1053-4 (Link to this contribution)
It would be more appropriate for the Minister to respond at the end.
Clearly, we are pleased that t...
Robert Buckland | 530 c1055-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this debate. I declare an interest as a legal aid prac...
Kate Green | 530 c1054-5 (Link to this contribution)
In the short time that is available, let me highlight two or three points. First, in looking at mean...
Heidi Alexander | 530 c1052 (Link to this contribution)
Some of the things that we see on the internet are of huge concern. I tried to get YouTube to take t...
Tom Brake | 530 c1052-3 (Link to this contribution)
I will keep my comments brief, Mr Deputy Speaker.
I think that it was the hon. Member for Sunderlan...
Speaker | 530 c1052 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I have three Members to get in, but only 14 minutes left.
Heidi Alexander | 530 c1052 (Link to this contribution)
In that case, I will give way.
Philip Davies | 530 c1023-5 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is right that people are released only when it is safe to release them. My constituen...
Speaker | 530 c1023 (Link to this contribution)
Order. May I ask for shorter interventions because many Members wish to speak and I want to try to g...
Jessica Morden | 530 c1026 (Link to this contribution)
Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that the timing of the proposals is particularly difficult? They...
Elfyn Llwyd | 530 c1025-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am going to speak against much of this Bill, but probably not as vehemently as the previous speake...
Louise Mensch | 530 c1022 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman make it clear that mediation is not suitable in all cases, especially those ...
Philip Davies | 530 c1022-3 (Link to this contribution)
The Lord Chancellor's statement last week bore the worst hallmarks of the Budget speech delivered by...
Anna Soubry | 530 c1023 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend please understand this? When someone is subject to an IPP, they have no knowledg...
Ian Lavery | 530 c1020-2 (Link to this contribution)
As Lady Hale warned earlier this week, the £350 million legal aid cuts made by the Bill will hit the...
Karl Turner | 530 c1034 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Lady not accept that crime fell by 43% under the previous Government? As a criminal ba...
Anna Soubry | 530 c1034 (Link to this contribution)
I would like to speak about the criminal justice system and our sentencing policy as reflected in th...
Yvonne Fovargue | 530 c1033-4 (Link to this contribution)
I accept that point and I will address the effect on citizens advice bureaux and other advice agenci...
Stephen Lloyd | 530 c1032 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Lady agree that the reforms will be a tragedy for the citizens advice bureaux, which h...
Nadine Dorries | 530 c1031-2 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Secretary of State and Lord Chancellor for bringing forward a balanced and pragmatic Bil...
Simon Reevell | 530 c1027-9 (Link to this contribution)
I declare an interest in accordance with the Register of Members' Financial Interests, as I have pra...
Gerald Kaufman | 530 c1029-31 (Link to this contribution)
This Bill has not had a good reception on either side of the House of Commons. Several hon. Members ...
Elfyn Llwyd | 530 c1026-7 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady is absolutely right and has hit on an important point. In any event, this is the wrong...
Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 530 c1044-5 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to be called to speak in this debate, but I shall follow the Whip's advice and be a...
Jane Ellison | 530 c1043-4 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the continuing focus of Ministers on tackling the country's appalling levels of reoffendin...
Anna Soubry | 530 c1034-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am afraid that I do not accept that figure. I do not think that things are as simple as that. For ...
Karl Turner | 530 c1036-7 (Link to this contribution)
It is always an absolute pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Broxtowe (Anna Soubry). I agree with...
Rehman Chishti | 530 c1037 (Link to this contribution)
Employment tribunals do not currently have the power to order costs. What about a position whereby a...
Karl Turner | 530 c1037 (Link to this contribution)
I am not sure. I do not think that I have time to consider the hon. Gentleman's point properly and g...
Amber Rudd | 530 c1037-8 (Link to this contribution)
The Bill falls into two distinct parts, despite its tripartite title: first the reforms to sentencin...
Jack Dromey | 530 c1039-40 (Link to this contribution)
Thirty years ago, as secretary of the Brent Trades Council and the Brent Federation of Tenants and R...
Rehman Chishti | 530 c1040-1 (Link to this contribution)
I speak as a lawyer who practised as a criminal barrister and, for a period of time, appeared in the...
Lisa Nandy | 530 c1041-3 (Link to this contribution)
I want to discuss a problem that the Bill creates for the victims of human rights abuses committed b...
Robert Halfon | 530 c1052 (Link to this contribution)
I will not be able to speak.
Sarah Newton | 530 c1045-7 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the Bill's focus on making the criminal justice system more victim oriented. In the few mi...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c1047 (Link to this contribution)
I listened to them.
Pat Glass | 530 c1048-9 (Link to this contribution)
I am pleased that the Lord Chancellor listened to those contributions, because they were worth heari...
Speaker | 530 c1047 (Link to this contribution)
Order. The hon. Lady's time is up.
Pat Glass | 530 c1047 (Link to this contribution)
I want to speak today about legal aid and social welfare law, not because I am an expert in either, ...
Robert Halfon | 530 c1052 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Lady give way?
Heidi Alexander | 530 c1052 (Link to this contribution)
I only have 30 seconds and many other hon. Members wish to speak—
Damian Hinds | 530 c1049-50 (Link to this contribution)
There can be no doubt that change is needed in this area. We spend record amounts on the criminal ju...
Heidi Alexander | 530 c1050-2 (Link to this contribution)
I feel somewhat unqualified to take part in this debate, because we have heard from a lot of lawyers...
Jack Straw | 530 c1006 (Link to this contribution)
I take that, as they say in court, as an admission. At long last, the Secretary of State now accepts...
David Burrowes | 530 c1008-9 (Link to this contribution)
As a duty solicitor, I declare an interest in—as in the title of the Bill—legal aid, sentencing and ...
Jack Straw | 530 c1007-8 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry—I am running out of time.
Referrals actively encourage individuals to try their luck in ...
Jonathan Evans | 530 c1007 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Jack Straw | 530 c1007 (Link to this contribution)
No, I am sorry.
One solicitor wrote to me saying that referral fees are no more than a ““form of le...
Anna Soubry | 530 c1006 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
David Burrowes | 530 c1009 (Link to this contribution)
I give way to my hon. Friend and constituency neighbour.
Jack Straw | 530 c1011 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
David Burrowes | 530 c1011 (Link to this contribution)
There is not time, unfortunately.
We will ensure that that is done across the country—paying people...
Nick de Bois | 530 c1009 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend knows that my constituents in Enfield North will very much welcome the mandatory prop...
Philip Davies | 530 c1010 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend also accept that the current guidelines for addressing threatening behaviour wit...
David Burrowes | 530 c1010-1 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes the point that the current guidance states that such people should receive a se...
Helen Grant | 530 c1014 (Link to this contribution)
I was a legal aid family lawyer for 23 years before becoming an MP, and my husband continues to run ...
Alun Michael | 530 c1012-4 (Link to this contribution)
I have said for a long time that we should do more to ensure that short sentences work and that they...
David Burrowes | 530 c1012 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman obviously has great experience and was no doubt the architect of the first ...
Alun Michael | 530 c1011-2 (Link to this contribution)
This Bill is a shambles and so is the Lord Chancellor's approach to crime. Far from being a signific...
Oliver Heald | 530 c1014 (Link to this contribution)
I am closely following my hon. Friend's sincere and important remarks, but does she not agree that t...
Helen Grant | 530 c1014-5 (Link to this contribution)
The problem is that not all cases can be mediated, and the difficult ones—the ones that we are deali...
Sarah Wollaston | 530 c1014 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that many citizens advice bureaux—such as my own, South Hams—receive 55% t...
Helen Grant | 530 c1014 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a good point, and change must be paced. Not for profit does not mean ““No funds...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c1015 (Link to this contribution)
I have a high regard for my hon. Friend's expertise on the issue, which greatly exceeds mine as a re...
Helen Grant | 530 c1015-6 (Link to this contribution)
If matters such as residence and contact can be resolved without litigation, as they sometimes are, ...
Julie Elliott | 530 c1016-7 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to take part in this important debate, Mr Deputy Speaker. I ...
Julie Elliott | 530 c1017 (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend. The stick-and-carrot approach, whereby there is something to...
Jonathan Reynolds | 530 c1017 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that the Government do not seem to have taken on board the fact that somet...
Julie Elliott | 530 c1018 (Link to this contribution)
I may not be an economist, but I am a British taxpayer and I can tell the House that the figures sim...
Stephen Phillips | 530 c1018-20 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you for calling me, Mr Deputy Speaker. During the early part of the speech preceding that by t...
Andy Slaughter | 530 c1020 (Link to this contribution)
There is a publication called Hansard, which the hon. and learned Gentleman might wish to read tomor...
Stephen Phillips | 530 c1020 (Link to this contribution)
I will go and have a look, and I am sure that Government Front Benchers will, too. We will be able t...
Andy Slaughter | 530 c1020 (Link to this contribution)
You don't even know; not a clue.
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c1004 (Link to this contribution)
The reason why we did not deal with that part of Jackson was because the Legal Services Board had ta...
Speaker | 530 c1004 (Link to this contribution)
Order. Before I call the next speaker let me say that a number of Members have complained about the ...
Lord Beith | 530 c1004 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Secretary of State. I know no one who agrees with the Legal Services Board's co...
Philip Davies | 530 c1005 (Link to this contribution)
indicated assent.
Jack Straw | 530 c1005 (Link to this contribution)
In his closing peroration, the Lord Chancellor said that he wished he had been able to stay on as Ho...
Simon Reevell | 530 c1005 (Link to this contribution)
I wonder whether the right hon. Gentleman has considered sub-paragraph (b), which makes it perfectly...
Jack Straw | 530 c1005 (Link to this contribution)
I am glad to have the approbation of the hon. Member for Shipley (Philip Davies) on that.
When he w...
Simon Reevell | 530 c1006 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Jack Straw | 530 c1006 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry, but the hon. Gentleman has failed to read the ““not”” in the first line of proposed new ...
Jack Straw | 530 c1006 (Link to this contribution)
No, of course I will not. The explanatory memorandum makes exactly the same point.
Let me address t...
Jonathan Djanogly | 530 c1063-4 (Link to this contribution)
We carefully considered those points in our consultation response, but we are clear that the proposa...
Jonathan Djanogly | 530 c1065 (Link to this contribution)
It is a small number but it is a complicated point, so I shall write to the hon. Lady.
Taken togeth...
Jonathan Djanogly | 530 c1064 (Link to this contribution)
We must make tough choices and target scarce legal aid on those who need it most. I am sorry to tell...
Speaker | 530 c1064 (Link to this contribution)
Order. There is quite a lot of chuntering in the Chamber. I am sure that the Minister will want to s...
Speaker | 530 c1063 (Link to this contribution)
That is a point not of order but of frustration.
Barry Sheerman | 530 c1063 (Link to this contribution)
On a point of order, Mr Speaker. The Minister is not making a speech or addressing the House; he is ...
Jonathan Djanogly | 530 c1060-2 (Link to this contribution)
We have listened to many considered and knowledgeable speeches today. The breadth of debate has only...
Andy Slaughter | 530 c1059-60 (Link to this contribution)
I am delighted to respond to that. I thought that the hon. and learned Gentleman had slightly more p...
Jonathan Djanogly | 530 c1063 (Link to this contribution)
I shall write to the right hon. Gentleman. My understanding is that he is wrong on the issue.
Turni...
Jack Straw | 530 c1063 (Link to this contribution)
Before the Minister turns to legal aid, will he deal with the central proposal in respect of sentenc...
Robert Buckland | 530 c1056-7 (Link to this contribution)
No; I am afraid that I will not take interventions, as there is no time. I say that with great respe...
Alun Michael | 530 c1056 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Stephen Phillips | 530 c1059 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way and for his remarks about my speech. He will reme...
Andy Slaughter | 530 c1057-9 (Link to this contribution)
This has been a mature and authoritative debate, and a better debate than this Bill deserves. Some 2...
Jack Straw | 530 c984-5 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the right hon. and learned Gentleman the Lord Chancellor. We have heard about this ...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c984 (Link to this contribution)
I give way to my predecessor.
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c985 (Link to this contribution)
The idea that I set off a crime wave when I was Home Secretary is a charge that I will answer on som...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c986-7 (Link to this contribution)
No, I am sorry. I respect the right hon. Gentleman, but I must move on.
I have said that ordinary c...
Jack Straw | 530 c986 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Secretary of State give way?
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c987-8 (Link to this contribution)
We have addressed clinical negligence, a large part of which is now conducted on a no-win, no-fee ba...
Lord Beith | 530 c987 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. and learned Friend has had a consultation, to which I hope he has listened, particular...
David TC Davies | 530 c986 (Link to this contribution)
The Secretary of State will be aware that many people are remanded on bail because they refuse to tu...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c988 (Link to this contribution)
I shall take two last interventions, and then I really must move on.
Baroness Morgan of Cotes | 530 c988 (Link to this contribution)
I hear what the Secretary of State says about the failure of the last Government to tackle the burge...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c985 (Link to this contribution)
I will in a second. Courts are slow and burdened by high costs and bureaucratic processes and proced...
Joan Ruddock | 530 c985 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Lord Chancellor give way?
Chris Leslie | 530 c985 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Lord Chancellor give way?
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c986 (Link to this contribution)
I give way to the hon. Member for Nottingham East (Chris Leslie).
Chris Leslie | 530 c986 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Lord Chancellor. Many victims of crime will be shocked at his proposals to limi...
Jack Straw | 530 c991 (Link to this contribution)
In answer to the hon. Member for Monmouth (David T.C. Davies) the Secretary of State said that where...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c990-1 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Health agrees with the hon. Gentleman and me. My min...
Anna Soubry | 530 c991 (Link to this contribution)
Someone who breaches bail commits a criminal offence and can therefore, and usually does, receive a ...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c991 (Link to this contribution)
I will address the extent to which we retain discretion, as determined under the bail Acts, accordin...
Elfyn Llwyd | 530 c992 (Link to this contribution)
How does the Lord Chancellor square what he is saying with what Baroness Hale of the Supreme Court h...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c991-2 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful. My hon. Friend has been in practice much more recently than the right hon. Member for...
David Burrowes | 530 c992 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Lord Chancellor for saying that legal aid will be available to defend the vulne...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c992 (Link to this contribution)
I have always had a high regard for Baroness Hale, who is a very distinguished lawyer, and I have he...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c992 (Link to this contribution)
We will look at that and consider it carefully as we proceed. At the moment, the Bill replicates a p...
Kate Green | 530 c993 (Link to this contribution)
At the annual general meeting of Liberty earlier this month, the right hon. Member for Haltemprice a...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c988 (Link to this contribution)
I think that we have responded to that to some extent. The Under-Secretary of State for Justice, my ...
Bridget Phillipson | 530 c988 (Link to this contribution)
Another aspect of the changes to legal aid is the removal of legal aid from women applying for indef...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c988 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, I will. I try to avoid jumping from subject to subject, because it is such an enormous Bill, bu...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c989-90 (Link to this contribution)
We are having a review, so I will look at that. Legislation was enacted in 2003, in the belief that ...
Paul Goggins | 530 c989 (Link to this contribution)
The Lord Chancellor mentions the review of indeterminate sentences. My concern is that he will reach...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c988-9 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. Ministers have talked about the matter and considered it carefully, and I leave it to my hon...
Chris Bryant | 530 c988 (Link to this contribution)
And so will others.
Jeremy Corbyn | 530 c990 (Link to this contribution)
I am interested in the Secretary of State's comments on the number of people in our prisons who, unf...
Chris Bryant | 530 c990 (Link to this contribution)
Complicates?
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c990 (Link to this contribution)
Complements—it might do both, but I hope it will complement our efforts to tackle drugs in prison.
...
Sadiq Khan | 530 c996-7 (Link to this contribution)
I usually take all interventions, but today I shall try to observe your recent stricture on that, Mr...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c997 (Link to this contribution)
I am glad to hear that the right hon. Gentleman is in favour of penal reform, but he has not, so far...
Sadiq Khan | 530 c1000 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is right to remind the House that if we are not careful, the country will become an a...
Sadiq Khan | 530 c1000-1 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister will have a chance to wind up the debate later, but we now have less than four hours re...
Jonathan Djanogly | 530 c1001 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Tom Brake | 530 c998 (Link to this contribution)
May I remind the right hon. Gentleman that in November, he said:"““Let me be clear: had we been in g...
Sadiq Khan | 530 c998-1000 (Link to this contribution)
I have done that before and I shall do so again in a while—[Interruption.] I am happy to answer that...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c993 (Link to this contribution)
We have consulted very carefully on legal aid, on both parts. We have made quite significant changes...
Elizabeth Truss | 530 c994 (Link to this contribution)
Will my right hon. and learned Friend give way?
Oliver Heald | 530 c994 (Link to this contribution)
Will my right hon. and learned Friend give way?
Elizabeth Truss | 530 c994 (Link to this contribution)
Will my right hon. and learned Friend give way?
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c994 (Link to this contribution)
Let me deal with this important point, because I have heard widespread concern, including from my ho...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c993 (Link to this contribution)
I have already said that access to justice is fundamental, but the fact is that the taxpayer's money...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c993-4 (Link to this contribution)
I shall follow your helpful steer, Mr Deputy Speaker, and make progress. I realise that these are im...
Speaker | 530 c993 (Link to this contribution)
Order. May I remind the House how many Members wish to contribute? Our mission should be to limit ou...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c994-6 (Link to this contribution)
Not at the moment; I shall carry on a little further.
In addition to the changes to the scope of le...
Oliver Heald | 530 c1001 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. Gentleman comment on the move towards more mediation in family courts? It is an ...
Sadiq Khan | 530 c1001-2 (Link to this contribution)
In the short time left to me, I am happy to welcome that proposal. As the hon. Gentleman will know, ...
Sadiq Khan | 530 c1001 (Link to this contribution)
I will not.
The Justice Secretary never had a credible strategy for achieving his rehabilitation re...
Jonathan Evans | 530 c1004 (Link to this contribution)
Does my right hon. Friend share my concern, which has also been expressed by the right hon. Member f...
Lord Beith | 530 c1004 (Link to this contribution)
Yes I do, and I was just coming to that as my final point. First, just let me complete my earlier po...
Speaker | 530 c1002 (Link to this contribution)
Order. There is an eight-minute limit on Back-Bench contributions, but clearly hon. Members do not h...
Lord Beith | 530 c1002-4 (Link to this contribution)
The Bill deals with two important issues on which the Justice Committee has reported. Sentencing was...
Lord Beith | 530 c1004 (Link to this contribution)
I must conclude, so I shall give way only to the Secretary of State.
Speaker | 530 c1052 (Link to this contribution)
Order. The hon. Gentleman has only just come into the Chamber.
Ian Lavery | 530 c1022 (Link to this contribution)
If the hon. Lady had been present earlier in the debate she would have heard hon. Members on both si...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c1006 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is referring to the 200 people who have been released, but more than 6,000 ...
David Burrowes | 530 c1009 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend may be making an early bid to be on the Public Bill Committee, but we certainly need ...
Bridget Phillipson | 530 c1064-5 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister answer the question I asked the Lord Chancellor earlier about whether the Governme...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c986 (Link to this contribution)
Without fettering judicial discretion, I think I can give that assurance. There are all sorts of gro...
Sadiq Khan | 530 c997-8 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. and learned Gentleman will be aware of our progress in relation to mental health, fol...
Karen Buck | 530 c1000 (Link to this contribution)
Does my right hon. Friend agree that one problem the Government have so far failed to address is ens...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c984 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.
I shall try to observe your strictures, Mr ...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c985 (Link to this contribution)
I will later, but let me deal with what we are having to tackle in civil justice. The sad truth is t...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c985 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is an ex-Front Bencher. I will give way to him later, but I should observe ...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 530 c986 (Link to this contribution)
I was going to argue this later; I will try to avoid repeating myself. I cannot understand why peopl...
Joan Ruddock | 530 c993 (Link to this contribution)
I was present at Lady Hale's lecture and wrote down what she said:"““Courts should be and are a last...
Robert Halfon | 530 c1052 (Link to this contribution)
I beg your pardon, Mr Deputy Speaker.
Is the hon. Lady aware that knives are often sold on the inte...
Stephen Phillips | 530 c1020 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful, Mr Deputy Speaker. I did not really want to get into the legal aid aspects of the Bil...
Yvonne Fovargue | 530 c1032 (Link to this contribution)
As I am the chair of the all-party group on legal aid, it will come as no surprise that I wish to sp...
Jack Straw | 530 c1006-7 (Link to this contribution)
I am afraid that I have had my ration of interventions.
Let me move on to the proposals for civil l...
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