Twenty-seventh backbench debate (part two). Agreed to on question.
Rural Broadband and Mobile Coverage
Backbench debate on Thursday, 19 May 2011,
in the House of Commons,
led by Rory Stewart.
The answering
member was Lord Vaizey of Didcot.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
528 c557-601 
Session
2010-12
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Speaker | 528 c575 (Link to this contribution)
Order. Many hon. Members still wish to speak, so I am reducing the time limit to eight minutes. If h...
Speaker | 528 c562 (Link to this contribution)
I am introducing a 10-minute limit on Back-Bench contributions, with the usual injury time for inter...
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Speaker | 528 c583 (Link to this contribution)
Order. To enable as many Members as possible to contribute, I am now reducing the time limit to five...
Speaker | 528 c581 (Link to this contribution)
If everybody sticks to about five minutes, everybody should be able to contribute to the debate.
Andrew Bingham | 528 c581 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Penrith and The Border (Rory Stewart) on securing this ...
Lord Beith | 528 c581 (Link to this contribution)
I do not know whether the hon. Gentleman experiences the same as I do in Northumberland, where one o...
Andrew Bingham | 528 c582 (Link to this contribution)
I could not agree more. Small businesses are my bag. I would describe them as the engine room of the...
Andrew Stephenson | 528 c578-9 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to agree with the hon. Gentleman on that figure. My key point is that that money will hav...
Phillip Lee | 528 c579-80 (Link to this contribution)
In the spirit of the motion, I will be as superfast as possible. First, I must draw Members' attenti...
Alun Cairns | 528 c580 (Link to this contribution)
Would my hon. Friend acknowledge that satellite broadband is not as reliable as mobile broadband or ...
Phillip Lee | 528 c580 (Link to this contribution)
I accept that, although there has been an improvement, as I know from having had the privilege of se...
Andrew Stephenson | 528 c578 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a valid point. What is surprising about his constituency and mine is that many ...
Ian Lucas | 528 c578 (Link to this contribution)
On a point of information, I think that the hon. Gentleman will find that the figure is £530 million...
Andrew Griffiths | 528 c572 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is exactly right, and at a time when we have a global economy and the internet provid...
Chi Onwurah | 528 c572 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman has spoken eloquently about the impact of slow broadband on his constituents. If ...
Andrew Griffiths | 528 c572 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady asks an interesting question. I think they would say, ““We want faster broadband, and ...
Tim Farron | 528 c573 (Link to this contribution)
I start by paying tribute to my neighbours and friends in Cumbria and other Members for excellent sp...
Tessa Munt | 528 c573 (Link to this contribution)
The same problem exists in Somerset, and it affects not only those who are seeking to retire but tho...
Tim Farron | 528 c573-5 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. The need for such communications is greater for people in r...
Andrew Griffiths | 528 c570-1 (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend. In fact, the situation is worse than that. All Members have ...
Eric Joyce | 528 c571 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman mentioned quality. Does he agree that although we talk about roll-out and the per...
Andrew Griffiths | 528 c571-2 (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely agree. There are examples in my constituency, particularly in outlying villages, where ...
Julian Lewis | 528 c572 (Link to this contribution)
Even in Hampshire, where the county council has invested heavily in its public services network, it ...
Andrew Jones | 528 c576-7 (Link to this contribution)
About half-past 5, I think my hon. Friend will find. I hope to be there to see it off, like the Fat ...
Andrew Stephenson | 528 c577-8 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Penrith and The Border (Rory Stewart) on securing this ...
Andrew Jones | 528 c576 (Link to this contribution)
That is tempting but difficult territory. I will resist the temptation because I have long campaigne...
Richard Graham | 528 c578 (Link to this contribution)
The important motion before us refers to rural broadband, but does my hon. Friend agree that it is a...
Chi Onwurah | 528 c575 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on setting out in such visionary terms the superfast future that w...
Andrew Jones | 528 c575 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Penrith and The Border (Rory Stewart) on securing this ...
Andrea Leadsom | 528 c576 (Link to this contribution)
I agree entirely that superfast broadband would be enormously beneficial to our economy. Does my hon...
Tim Farron | 528 c575 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady makes a correct observation, and I would make one in return—and it is not meant as a d...
Chi Onwurah | 528 c564 (Link to this contribution)
The previous Government committed to providing universal broadband access at 2 megabits by 2012, whe...
Andrew Bridgen | 528 c564 (Link to this contribution)
I hate to break up the cosy consensus, but I am going to anyway. I understand that the Opposition ar...
Chi Onwurah | 528 c565 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for asking that; I have very little time left, so I shall race to that po...
Rory Stewart | 528 c565 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Lady clarify what she proposes to do to ensure that an additional 3 million people get...
Graham P Jones | 528 c566-7 (Link to this contribution)
I must declare an interest because I am still a Lancashire county councillor. As such I have quite a...
Eric Ollerenshaw | 528 c565-6 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Penrith and The Border (Rory Stewart), who has pressed ...
Chi Onwurah | 528 c564 (Link to this contribution)
I am delighted that the hon. Gentleman has launched himself so deeply into the detail of network inf...
Rory Stewart | 528 c564 (Link to this contribution)
What does the hon. Lady think of the simple proposal to set out the number of additional masts requi...
Chi Onwurah | 528 c565 (Link to this contribution)
My party is known for supporting redistribution in many areas and we would certainly support cross-s...
Duncan Hames | 528 c564-5 (Link to this contribution)
One consequence would be a cross-subsidy from those—perhaps in urban areas—who enjoy low-cost servic...
Eric Ollerenshaw | 528 c567 (Link to this contribution)
My understanding is that it is one operator, but I stand to be corrected on that. It is also my unde...
Ian Lucas | 528 c567 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman clarify something? I understand that Lancashire county council is probably t...
Eric Ollerenshaw | 528 c567 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pity that the hon. Gentleman has to reduce this matter to party politics given that there ha...
Andrew Murrison | 528 c570 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that the frustration in certain constituencies is added to when wonderful ...
Andrew Griffiths | 528 c570 (Link to this contribution)
It is perhaps apt that I follow the hon. Member for Barrow and Furness (John Woodcock), because he a...
Lord Walney | 528 c569-70 (Link to this contribution)
This is not only an issue for the Government but for the private sector and for individuals. There w...
Rory Stewart | 528 c569 (Link to this contribution)
I hesitate to invite the hon. Gentleman to come and join us on the Government Benches, but could he ...
Lord Walney | 528 c569 (Link to this contribution)
It is interesting that the hon. Gentleman mentions my former boss, the former Prime Minister, and mo...
George Freeman | 528 c569 (Link to this contribution)
I believe that in a previous existence the hon. Gentleman used to advise the right hon. Member for K...
Lord Walney | 528 c567-9 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate the Backbench Business Committee on securing the debate and, of course, the hon. Memb...
Duncan Hames | 528 c558 (Link to this contribution)
It may indeed stand to reason, but the evidence from past auctions of the spectrum does not show bid...
Rory Stewart | 528 c558 (Link to this contribution)
That is an excellent point. The reality of auctions is not that people operate on a fully rational b...
Rory Stewart | 528 c557-8 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move,"That this House recognises that rural businesses and rural communities across the UK ...
Rory Stewart | 528 c558 (Link to this contribution)
That is an enormously good point. It is a matter of bewildering complexity. Ofcom is over-layering f...
Mark Tami | 528 c558 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman accept that it is not even that level of coverage? The companies produce map...
Chi Onwurah | 528 c562-4 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate the Backbench Business Committee on securing this important debate. I know personally...
Therese Coffey | 528 c559 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is putting the point so eloquently that this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to c...
Matt Hancock | 528 c560 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is making an extremely powerful and eloquent speech. In rural areas, we spend more ti...
Rory Stewart | 528 c559-60 (Link to this contribution)
That is a fantastic point. I will come to growth in a second, but perhaps, rather than taking any mo...
George Freeman | 528 c559 (Link to this contribution)
While my hon. Friend is on the subject of investment in broadband paying for itself, does he agree t...
Rory Stewart | 528 c559 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes exactly the right point, and much better than I could. ““Penny wise, pound fool...
Rory Stewart | 528 c561-2 (Link to this contribution)
It is a very basic estimate predicated on the assumption that, to increase from 95% to 98% coverage,...
Chi Onwurah | 528 c561 (Link to this contribution)
Could the hon. Gentleman give me some clarification on the figure of £215 million in lost revenue th...
Rory Stewart | 528 c560-1 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a very good point.
My argument is about mobile broadband coverage. What is the...
Ian Mearns | 528 c598 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister mentioned superfast broadband and 2 megabits. What is the relationship between 2 megabi...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 528 c598 (Link to this contribution)
The reference to 2 megabits relates to the universal commitment. The reference to superfast broadban...
Alun Cairns | 528 c598 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 528 c598-601 (Link to this contribution)
If the hon. Lady will wait for one second, I want to use this opportunity—[Laughter.] I want to echo...
Ian Lucas | 528 c596-7 (Link to this contribution)
The previous Government made massive advances in the provision of broadband services and internet se...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 528 c597-8 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the chance to respond to this debate, which was called on behalf of the Backbench ...
Rory Stewart | 528 c601 (Link to this contribution)
I thank all Members who took part in the debate. It is extraordinary that on a Thursday afternoon 20...
Tessa Munt | 528 c593-4 (Link to this contribution)
I should like to make just a few points and to speak for the Somerset half of that Somerset and Devo...
Ian Lucas | 528 c594-5 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate the hon. Member for Penrith and The Border (Rory Stewart) on securing this enjoyable ...
Anne Marie Morris | 528 c592-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am conscious of the time, so I will endeavour to keep my contribution short.
I do not think Ofcom...
Mel Stride | 528 c589-90 (Link to this contribution)
Like all speakers, I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Penrith and The Border (Rory Stewart...
Alun Cairns | 528 c596 (Link to this contribution)
If the network was so competitive under the former Administration, why are we ranked only 26th in th...
Ian Lucas | 528 c595-6 (Link to this contribution)
Absolutely. The Minister is always very polite in his answers to parliamentary questions, but he is ...
Chi Onwurah | 528 c595 (Link to this contribution)
Is it not true to say that we have little or no information on the progress that has been made by th...
Ian Lucas | 528 c595 (Link to this contribution)
We were on track to meet that deadline. It was costed, and the £200 million that would have been use...
Duncan Hames | 528 c595 (Link to this contribution)
I note the hon. Gentleman's comments about the changed timetable. Will he tell us whether the previo...
Andrew Bingham | 528 c582 (Link to this contribution)
That is true. Good internet connections increase the ability to work from home, thus reducing travel...
Duncan Hames | 528 c582 (Link to this contribution)
I am delighted that the hon. Gentleman has mentioned the reduction in carbon reductions that results...
Andrew Bingham | 528 c582-3 (Link to this contribution)
That might be true, but I prefer to give people the option of seeing it in high resolution.
Researc...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 528 c582 (Link to this contribution)
It will look better in low resolution.
Speaker | 528 c584 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I call Mr David Nuttall.
David Nuttall | 528 c584-5 (Link to this contribution)
Saved by the bell there, Minister.
People could be forgiven for thinking that a constituency such a...
Mark Williams | 528 c585-7 (Link to this contribution)
It is a privilege to speak in this afternoon's debate, but I arrived with a tinge of anxiety as I su...
Alun Cairns | 528 c587-8 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Ceredigion (Mr Williams). I want to pay particular tr...
Simon Hart | 528 c588-9 (Link to this contribution)
I, too, congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Penrith and The Border (Rory Stewart), but I want...
Julian Smith | 528 c583-4 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Penrith and The Border (Rory Stewart) on securing the d...
Caroline Nokes | 528 c590-2 (Link to this contribution)
I, too, congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Penrith and The Border (Rory Stewart).
Several M...
Notes
Daily part and Vote both list this as 27th allotted day. Please note that 12 May was also given as 27th allotted day.
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