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Equality Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Tuesday, 9 February 2010, in the House of Lords.
Equality Bill. Lords committee stage sixth day. Schedules 18, 24 and 26 as amended agreed. Schedules 19 to 23, 25, 27 to 28 agreed. Clauses 149, 151 to 157, 159 to 164, 166 to 195, 197 to 199, 203, 205 to 206 and 209 to 210 agreed. Clauses 150, 158, 165, 196, 200 to 202, 204 and 208 as amended, agreed. Title as amended, agreed. Bill reported with amendments and ordered to be printed (HL Bill 35).
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717 c634-60, 689-724 
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2009-10
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Equality Bill. As amended in Committee.
Tuesday, 9 February 2010
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Equality Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 20-EN also published.
Thursday, 3 December 2009
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Deposited Paper DEP2010-0528
Tuesday, 9 February 2010
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Deposited Paper DEP2010-0443
Tuesday, 9 February 2010
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Proceeding contributions
Baroness Thornton | 717 c716 (Link to this contribution) 134B: Schedule 24, page 218, line 20, at end insert— ““( ) Part 5A (marriage);”” 134C: Schedule 24...
Baroness Thornton | 717 c716-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving Amendment 135, I will speak to Amendments 136, 135A, 136ZA, 136ZAC, 136ZB, 136ZZ...

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Baroness Morris of Bolton | 717 c717-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are grateful to the Government for tabling Amendments 135, 136, 136ZAC and 136ZCC, whic...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 717 c719 (Link to this contribution) If Amendment 136ZZB is agreed, I cannot call Amendment 136ZZC because of pre-emption.
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c719 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment has again been brought to our attention by the Delegated Powers and Regulat...
Baroness Thornton | 717 c718 (Link to this contribution) 135AB: Clause 200, page 124, line 16, at end insert ““that provides for the omission of an entry whe...
Baroness Thornton | 717 c718 (Link to this contribution) 135ZA: Clause 200, page 124, line 6, at end insert ““or the Treasury”” 135A: Clause 200, page 124,...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c719 (Link to this contribution) 136ZZB: Clause 200, page 125, line 1, leave out subsection (10)
Baroness Thornton | 717 c718-9 (Link to this contribution) 136: Clause 200, page 124, line 33, leave out ““other than one mentioned in”” and insert ““that is n...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c723-4 (Link to this contribution) 142: Clause 209, page 128, line 29, after ““houses)”” insert ““and sections (Abolition of husband’s ...
Baroness Thornton | 717 c719-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Government Amendment 136ZZC and respond to Amendment 136ZZB spoken to by ...
Baroness Thornton | 717 c720-1 (Link to this contribution) 136ZZD: Clause 201, page 125, line 8, at end insert ““an order or”” 136ZZE: Clause 201, page 125, ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c721 (Link to this contribution) 136ZAE: Clause 202, page 125, line 26, at end insert ““an order or”” 136ZAF: Clause 202, page 125,...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c720 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that reinforces the debt of this House to the Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Commi...
Baroness Thornton | 717 c720 (Link to this contribution) 136ZZC: Clause 200, page 125, line 1, leave out ““mentioned in subsection (2) or (4)”” and insert ““...
Lord Low of Dalston | 717 c722 (Link to this contribution) 138A: Clause 204, page 126, line 40, at end insert— ““““substantial”” means more than minor or trivi...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c722 (Link to this contribution) 138: Clause 204, page 126, line 11, after ““not”” insert ““, subject to subsection (4A),”” Amendmen...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c721-2 (Link to this contribution) 136ZD: Schedule 26, page 223, line 36, at end insert— ““( ) an act which is unlawful because it amou...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c721 (Link to this contribution) 136ZCA: Clause 202, page 125, line 30, at end insert— ““( ) an order under section 150 (power to ame...
Lord Low of Dalston | 717 c722 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have an unanswerable case to present in support of Amendment 138A, but, recognising that...
Baroness Thornton | 717 c692-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group of amendments relates to two different clauses—158 and 196, so I shall address ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c694 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Turner of Camden, and the noble Lord, Lord Lester of Hern...
Baroness Thornton | 717 c694 (Link to this contribution) 118A: Clause 158, page 101, line 3, at end insert ““, and ( ) taking the action in question is a pro...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c694-5 (Link to this contribution) 120: After Clause 159, insert the following new Clause— ““Private hire vehicle accessibility regulat...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c695-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we tabled Amendment 120 because we wanted to raise the issue of accessibility of private h...
Baroness Wilkins | 717 c696 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 120A in my name, which concerns the lack of accessible taxis av...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 717 c696 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I welcome the debate initiated by the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, and in particular the propose...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 717 c696-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak briefly to support the amendment, not least because, on Sunday evening, a disabled...
Lord Sentamu | 717 c697 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when the noble Baroness, Lady Campbell of Surbiton, moved her amendment last time on the q...
Baroness Thornton | 717 c697-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will speak to government Amendments 121, 122 and 123, before turning to Amendment 120A a...
Baroness Wilkins | 717 c699 (Link to this contribution) 120A: After Clause 159, insert the following new Clause— ““Control of numbers of licensed taxis: exc...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c699-700 (Link to this contribution) 121: Clause 165, page 106, line 3, leave out ““in England and Wales”” 122: Clause 165, page 106, l...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c698-9 (Link to this contribution) First, I am very grateful to the noble Baroness. I hasten to reassure her that it was, as I pointed ...
Baroness Thornton | 717 c701-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 125C would set out in the Bill a provision that ensured that the duty of the cou...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c702 (Link to this contribution) I shall press the Minister a little further. The Minister may well think that this would be an appro...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c700 (Link to this contribution) 125C: Schedule 23, page 217, line 39, at end insert— ““Landlord: possession of premises (1) A landlo...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c700-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment refers to the effect of the decision of the House of Lords in the Lewisham ...
Baroness Thornton | 717 c702 (Link to this contribution) Draft guidance has been published and is on the website. There is a commitment to consult on the iss...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c702 (Link to this contribution) I hope what I shall say will be helpful. It seems to me that where a tenant behaves badly—does not p...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c702 (Link to this contribution) That was a helpful intervention from the noble Lord, Lord Lester of Herne Hill, because I am seeking...
Lord Elton | 717 c702-3 (Link to this contribution) We are assuming that disability is a permanent condition, but I do not know that that is the case. I...
Baroness Thornton | 717 c703 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord makes a very good point. That is probably right.
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c703 (Link to this contribution) This has been a helpful short debate because those who are still seeking guidance are going to recei...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c703 (Link to this contribution) 126A: Clause 195, page 121, line 6, leave out subsection (3)
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c706 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I understand it—it is my excellent officials who have been speaking to the officials fr...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c706-7 (Link to this contribution) Therefore, I should say that I will now await the views of the committee before deciding whether to ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c703-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have tabled these amendments, 126A and 126B, to raise another issue which has been brou...
Viscount Ullswater | 717 c704 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I must advise your Lordships that if this amendment is agreed, I will not be able to call ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c704-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will first speak to government Amendments 126C and 135ZA and then address Amendments 126...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c706 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness said that there had been dialogue with the Delegated Powers and Regulat...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c709 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is not my intention to have a debate tonight about Protocol 7. That is a completely sep...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c707 (Link to this contribution) 129ZA: After Clause 195, insert the following new Clause— ““Equality between spouses Abolition of a ...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c707-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in speaking to Amendment 129ZA, I shall speak also to Amendments 129ZB to 129ZD and to the...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c707 (Link to this contribution) 126C: Clause 195, page 121, line 24, at end insert— ““( ) Guidance issued (or treated as issued) und...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c712 (Link to this contribution) 131A: Clause 196, page 122, line 2, leave out ““Before making the order”” and insert ““If the Minist...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c711 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am extremely grateful. I share the concerns expressed by the noble Baroness, Lady Howe, ...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c711-2 (Link to this contribution) 129ZB: After Clause 195, insert the following new Clause— ““Abolition of presumption of advancement ...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 717 c709 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wonder if I could probe a little bit. I would be equally loath to question anything that...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c709-11 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Government support the amendments put forward by the noble Lord, Lord Lester of Herne ...
Baroness Thornton | 717 c715 (Link to this contribution) 134ZA: Clause 196, page 122, line 26, leave out ““5”” and insert ““2”” 134ZB: Clause 196, page 122...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 717 c715 (Link to this contribution) If Amendment 131B is agreed, I cannot call Amendment 132 because of pre-emption. Amendment 131B agr...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c716 (Link to this contribution) 134AA: Schedule 24, page 218, line 15, at end insert— ““Sections (Abolition of husband’s duty to mai...
Baroness Thornton | 717 c715-6 (Link to this contribution) 134ZC: After Clause 196, insert the following new Clause— ““Harmonisation: procedure (1) If, after t...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c714 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that I need to speak to our amendments, as they have already been opposed before I hav...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c712-4 (Link to this contribution) Government Amendments 131A, 131B, 134B, 134C, 134ZA, 134ZB and the new Clause in Amendment 134ZC con...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c714 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is of course not just a consolidation Bill. We will have to return to all this on Repor...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c714 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think it is fair to say that that committee is broadly satisfied. As this Committee will...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c714 (Link to this contribution) 131B: Clause 196, page 122, line 4, leave out subsections (4) and (5) and insert— ““(4) If, as a res...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c714 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I understand that I misled the House; apparently, the Delegated Powers Committee do...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 717 c637 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will say briefly from these Benches that I strongly support what the noble Lord, Lord Le...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c637-8 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may respectfully correct one matter. This does not limit the scope of the non-discriminati...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c638-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 114ZA, tabled by the noble Baronesses, Lady Warsi and Lady Morris of Bolton, wou...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 717 c639 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to all noble Lords who have joined in this short debate. I am also grateful that ...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 717 c639 (Link to this contribution) 114ZB: Schedule 18, page 196, line 41, at end insert ““, but no such order may vary or omit the exce...
Baroness Thornton | 717 c640-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we too have edited our notes down. I am just reading through them and cannot see any refer...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 717 c639-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving Amendment 114ZB, I will also speak to the other amendments in our name. These am...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c642 (Link to this contribution) 114ZC: Schedule 18, page 196, line 41, at end insert— ““(2) But provision by virtue of sub-paragraph...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 717 c641-2 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that comprehensive reply and it gives me great pleasure to withdraw my amen...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c642 (Link to this contribution) 115: Schedule 19, page 198, line 37, at end insert— ““The relevant qualifications regulator (The Off...
Lord Sentamu | 717 c656 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Clause 157 begins with the same phrase as Clause 158, ““reasonably thinks that””. The nobl...
Lord Sentamu | 717 c656-7 (Link to this contribution) I want to continue probing on the noble Lord’s behalf. The proviso he provides would save us a lot o...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c656 (Link to this contribution) I only probed on that and did not intend to pursue it.
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c660 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am extremely grateful to everyone who has taken part in this debate, particularly to the...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c689 (Link to this contribution) 116: Clause 158, page 100, line 28, leave out ““reasonably thinks”” and insert ““can demonstrate””
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c691-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is not a taxing or a penal statute; this is a remedial statute, and it is to be appro...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c689-91 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will use my best endeavours to make my remarks as brief as possible in view of the need ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c648-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 115B, tabled by the noble Baronesses, Lady Warsi and Lady Morris of Bolton, seek...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c647-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the purpose of the amendment is to invite the noble Baroness to explain what appears on th...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c647 (Link to this contribution) 115B: Clause 154, page 99, line 4, at end insert— ““( ) Regulations made under sections 152 or 153 m...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c646-7 (Link to this contribution) 115ZA: Clause 150, page 96, line 6, at end insert— ““( ) An order may not be made under this section...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c650 (Link to this contribution) 115C: Clause 157, page 100, line 11, leave out ““which”” and insert ““provided it””
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c650 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am a little nervous about saying anything, except to point out that the Whip on the legi...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c649-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would certainly endorse that and I pay very warm tribute to everything that the noble an...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c649 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the Minister will be able to assure the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, that it was because of the br...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c650-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 118A and to the group as a whole in a single speech. I sho...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c653-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Lester, moved into the 10th minute of his speech, I thought to mys...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c645 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, non-departmental public bodies will be listed in Schedule 19.
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c645 (Link to this contribution) As I understand it, the Equality and Human Rights Commission is one such body and would be covered. ...
Lord Low of Dalston | 717 c645 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I reassure the Minister that she has one satisfied customer. I am grateful for her reassur...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c645 (Link to this contribution) I think the Minister said that a non-ministerial body is a government department. Is it not better t...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 717 c645 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, are the non-departmental public bodies in or out? ““A government department”” is not a goo...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c645 (Link to this contribution) Yes, my Lords, just as the department of the Treasury Solicitor, for example, is a non-ministerial d...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c646 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether the noble Lord can afford to go on like this, but he should remember the well ...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 717 c646 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, clarity has come from the fact that non-departmental public bodies will be listed. The def...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c644 (Link to this contribution) While the noble Baroness is considering the important point made by the noble Lord, Lord Low of Dals...
Lord Low of Dalston | 717 c644 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the Minister responds to the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, perhaps she can say whether she...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c644 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster can clarify the position. I was following her in re...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c643-4 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 115 would insert the Office of the Qualifications and Examinations Regulator—Ofqual—into S...
Lord Low of Dalston | 717 c642-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I very much welcome this amendment, moved by the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, to clarify the app...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c642 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is a simple, probing amendment and I will make some brief remarks. The debate about w...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c645 (Link to this contribution) May I have a go, although I will probably get this quite wrong? In Clause 149: "““A public authority...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c644-5 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the noble Baroness can further clarify the point. I always tend, when looking at the interpr...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 717 c634-6 (Link to this contribution) We tabled this probing amendment to ask the Government for reassurance about the operation of the pu...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 717 c634 (Link to this contribution) 114ZA: Schedule 18, page 196, line 38, at end insert— ““Exception to the public sector equality duty...
Baroness Greengross | 717 c636 (Link to this contribution) Could I add my voice in opposing this amendment, and to agree with the noble Lord, Lord Lester? For ...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c636 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment, I am sorry to have to say, is regressive. It would exempt from Clause 148 ...
Earl of Erroll | 717 c636-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to interject briefly, as this issue has been worrying me a lot because I knew...
Lord Sentamu | 717 c636 (Link to this contribution) I fail to understand why the figure 250 has been picked. What matters is that people are not discrim...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 717 c637 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will say briefly that I, too, strongly agree with the noble Lord, Lord Lester, and with ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c708-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to make it clear that we support these amendments and the changes to the law ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c646 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Low of Dalston, for making some very important ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c645 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I understand that that is correct. Does that answer the noble Lord’s questions about a non...
Baroness Thornton | 717 c716 (Link to this contribution) 135: Clause 199, page 124, line 3, at end insert— ““( ) A statutory instrument containing an Order i...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c724 (Link to this contribution) 144: In the Title, line 11, after ““opportunity;”” insert ““to amend the law relating to rights and ...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 717 c692 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I cannot really see what advantage one would get by replacing ““reasonably thinks”” with “...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 717 c646 (Link to this contribution) I do think that we have got somewhere. That is the important thing. I was a little misled at first b...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c644 (Link to this contribution) Yes, my Lords. Non-ministerial departments are included in Part 1 of Schedule 19, because non-minist...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c722-3 (Link to this contribution) 139: Clause 204, page 127, line 8, at end insert— ““(4A) Where this Act disapplies a prohibition on ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 717 c657-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before I address Amendments 115C and 118A, tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Lester, Amendmen...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 717 c723 (Link to this contribution) 141: Clause 208, page 128, line 24, at end insert— ““( ) Sections (Abolition of husband’s duty to ma...
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