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Marine and Coastal Access Bill [Lords]

Debate on bills on Monday, 26 October 2009, in the House of Commons.
Marine and Coastal Access Bill (HL). Programme motion (No. 2) on proceedings on Report and Third reading agreed to on question. Report stage first day. New clause 2, discussed with new clauses 3 to 6, debated and agreed to. New clauses 3 to 6 agreed to. New clause 8 debated and withdrawn. [Relevant documents: Report from the Joint Committee on the Draft Marine Bill, Session 2007-08, HC 552-I and –II, and the Government response, Cm 7422. Ninth Report from the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee, Session 2007-08, on the Draft Marine Bill: Coastal Access Provision, HC 656-I, and the Government response, Cm 7422.]
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Parliamentary proceeding
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498 c30-129 
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2008-09
Department
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
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Report stage
Procedure
Programme motions
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Related items
Marine and Coastal Access Bill (HL). As amended in Public Bill Committee. In two volumes.
Tuesday, 14 July 2009
Bills
House of Commons
Deposited Paper DEP2009-2856
Monday, 26 October 2009
Deposited papers
House of Commons
Taking forward the Marine Bill. Government response to public consultation and pre-legislative scrutiny in the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Select Committee's ninth report (HC 656) and the Marine Draft Bill Joint Select Committee's first report (HL 159; HC 552) of session 2007-08.
Thursday, 25 September 2008
Command papers
House of Lords
House of Commons
Draft Marine Bill. Marine Draft Bill Joint Select Committee first report in 2 volumes with minutes of proceedings, evidence (HC 552 i-viii not printed separately) and appendices.
Wednesday, 16 July 2008
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons

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Proceeding contributions
Angela C Smith | 498 c56-7 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right, and I remain disappointed that the provision for excluding parks...
Paddy Tipping | 498 c56 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a very strong point, and perhaps she will remind the House that Natural England...

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Alan Whitehead | 498 c58-9 (Link to this contribution) I would like particularly to address my remarks to amendment 40, which stands in my name and those o...
Peter Atkinson | 498 c53-4 (Link to this contribution) I wish to say a few brief words in support of the comments made by my hon. Friend the Member for New...
Angela C Smith | 498 c54-5 (Link to this contribution) This is my first chance, too, to speak on this Bill as amended in Committee, because of my required ...
Lord Benyon | 498 c55 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Lady agree that the vast majority of walkers who will want to visit a coastal path wil...
Peter Atkinson | 498 c54 (Link to this contribution) I was intrigued to see that an amendment to the White Herring Fisheries Act was coming up for debate...
Angela C Smith | 498 c74 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with my hon. Friend. The British Mountaineering Council has made it absolutely clea...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c74 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. We do not want to wrap all outdoor activities in cotton wool. Part of the j...
Bill Wiggin | 498 c69 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister elaborate a little more on what he means by "sterilise"? Does he mean, for example...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c69-74 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman tempts me down a path on single farm payments that I am wary of treading on. It i...
Bernard Jenkin | 498 c65 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether the Minister will return to the question of Mistley quay, but does the Secreta...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c65-9 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to say that I shall come to that, but perhaps the hon. Gentleman will bear with me. I s...
Lord Benyon | 498 c64 (Link to this contribution) The Minister mentioned local access forums. They are feeling a little unloved at the moment, so will...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c64-5 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a good point. I met the local access forums two weeks ago, and they want to...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c63-4 (Link to this contribution) Yes, indeed. The hon. Gentleman recognises the nature of the Bill and how the coastal path provision...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c61-2 (Link to this contribution) I thank hon. Members for a good debate on this group of amendments. I was especially keen to hear th...
Angela C Smith | 498 c62 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend's references to the jam doughnut and the work of Natural England leads me to ask an i...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c62-3 (Link to this contribution) Although I would not want to prescribe it myself, that is an admirable idea for a part or all of the...
Lord Benyon | 498 c63 (Link to this contribution) Talk of jam doughnuts has excited me and inspired me to see whether I can get a couple of points on ...
Andrew George | 498 c60 (Link to this contribution) I shall take the hon. Gentleman back slightly to when he mentioned the accessibility of island commu...
Angela C Smith | 498 c61 (Link to this contribution) Having used the Scillonian on more than one occasion, I entirely concur that it is not the same as u...
Alan Whitehead | 498 c61 (Link to this contribution) I agree. The fact that the Bill already includes a note about the Isles of Scilly should underline t...
Austin Mitchell | 498 c79 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Speaker | 498 c79-80 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c77 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the HSE and relevant Ministers will hear those comments. On whether the Bill will pro...
Lord Benyon | 498 c77-9 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for that tour de force, which went into some detail. The Minister's e...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c76-7 (Link to this contribution) I fully agree with my hon. Friend on that. These provisions work very well. I have corresponded wit...
Bernard Jenkin | 498 c77 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his comments and his helpful suggestion, which I think means I shall be abl...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c75-6 (Link to this contribution) I will happily do so shortly. Although that point is not pertinent to this particular amendment, I a...
Tom Levitt | 498 c76 (Link to this contribution) My High Peak constituency has more open access land as defined under the CROW Act than any other con...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c74-5 (Link to this contribution) Again, I entirely agree. Let me give the House an anecdote to think about. On a memorable occasion,...
Bill Wiggin | 498 c75 (Link to this contribution) The problem with this clause is that it is the Government position, rather than the user of the outd...
Geoffrey Cox | 498 c86-7 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that the demonisation of the fishing industry by some of those to whom I h...
Lord Benyon | 498 c86 (Link to this contribution) The amendments tabled by the hon. Member for Great Grimsby (Mr. Mitchell) are very interesting and, ...
Austin Mitchell | 498 c85-6 (Link to this contribution) Yes, but I am not sure what follows from that. If fishing is to be totally excluded from the French ...
Baroness Clark of Kilwinning | 498 c85 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend aware that President Sarkozy, in July, announced his intention to designate 20 per...
Austin Mitchell | 498 c84-5 (Link to this contribution) That is absolutely correct. We have already seen the anger that was produced on the east coast when ...
Geoffrey Cox | 498 c84 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the equal application of the law is fundamental to its respect? T...
Austin Mitchell | 498 c83-4 (Link to this contribution) I agree absolutely with the hon. Gentleman. I should not have made jibes; I am stirred to such anger...
Lord Benyon | 498 c87 (Link to this contribution) I entirely understand what the hon. Gentleman has pointed out—just as we can get this issue right, w...
Lord Benyon | 498 c87 (Link to this contribution) I take my hon. and learned Friend's point. Let me be conciliatory. We should use the Lundy case as a...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 498 c87 (Link to this contribution) I am listening to what the hon. Gentleman has just said. If we get it wrong, we end up with a self-p...
Lord Benyon | 498 c88 (Link to this contribution) Rightly so. I look forward to meeting Richard Lochhead in a couple of weeks. It is vital that we bal...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c87-8 (Link to this contribution) I alert the hon. Gentleman to the fact that, during the Bill's development, there has been very good...
Lord Benyon | 498 c88-9 (Link to this contribution) One benefit of the Lundy island case is that shellfish, for example, have increased in size and are ...
Lord Benyon | 498 c87 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way to the Minister in a minute. The hon. Member for Na h-Eileanan an Iar (Mr. MacNeil...
Lord Benyon | 498 c87 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman will allow me, the Minister wants to intervene, but I shall then give way to h...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 498 c89 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman mentioned what is being conserved, but the fishing communities in my constituency...
Lord Benyon | 498 c89-90 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a good point. In a recent European Committee sitting, I was amazed to read ...
Martin Salter | 498 c82 (Link to this contribution) I am listening, as I suspect many hon. Members are, with some incredulity to the arguments being mad...
Austin Mitchell | 498 c80-2 (Link to this contribution) I wish to discuss not only new clause 8, but amendments 41, 17, 15 and 24. I wish to do so because o...
Martin Salter | 498 c82 (Link to this contribution) No, we are in favour of this Bill.
Austin Mitchell | 498 c82 (Link to this contribution) I am surprised at my hon. Friend's incredulity, because the interests of commercial fishermen and an...
Austin Mitchell | 498 c82 (Link to this contribution) I am defending the interests of fishing as an industry and as a leisure activity—I would have though...
Austin Mitchell | 498 c82 (Link to this contribution) Well, if my hon. Friend wants to tell me that fishing is damaging the environment, he is wrong.
Martin Salter | 498 c82 (Link to this contribution) I shall certainly continue the exchange. Does my hon. Friend recognise that probably precisely the s...
Austin Mitchell | 498 c82-3 (Link to this contribution) Fishing might have overextended its ambitions there, but that has nothing to do with this and nor ha...
Andrew George | 498 c83 (Link to this contribution) I caution the hon. Gentleman that it would be unwise to attack people who are on his side. In any ca...
Angela C Smith | 498 c101-2 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, but now it is the ex-premier. Grimsby benefited in the 1950s and 1960s because of a no-take ...
Alan Reid | 498 c102 (Link to this contribution) I represent a constituency where fishing is still an important part of the local economy. Fishermen ...
Charles Walker | 498 c99 (Link to this contribution) I listened to the hon. Member for Great Grimsby (Mr. Mitchell) with great interest. I did not agree ...
Charles Walker | 498 c100 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the Minister will provide us with great comfort on that point in the future. Marine ...
Angela C Smith | 498 c100-1 (Link to this contribution) You will not hear me demonising fishermen this evening, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for although I come from...
Elliot Morley | 498 c98 (Link to this contribution) I very much welcome the progress that has been made on issues such as the fisherman's defence since ...
Elliot Morley | 498 c98-9 (Link to this contribution) Or up the road. Nevertheless, we cannot ignore the fact that if we are not careful, we will leave lo...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 498 c104 (Link to this contribution) A marine conservation zone implies a degree of protection, so the question arises, "From whom is it ...
Rob Marris | 498 c104 (Link to this contribution) It does, and I shall come on to that, but I shall give way first to my hon. Friend the Member for Gr...
Rob Marris | 498 c103-4 (Link to this contribution) I propose to confine my remarks to new clause 8 and to amendments 44, 23 and 5. The tone of the deba...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 498 c103 (Link to this contribution) If that situation were to arise, would the hon. Gentleman agree that the MCZ should be declared null...
Alan Reid | 498 c103 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is quite right: there would be no point in declaring an MCZ between the 6 and 12-...
Lord Deben | 498 c102 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that if the Act is obsolete, keeping it on the statute book does no ha...
Alan Reid | 498 c102-3 (Link to this contribution) I wholeheartedly agree with the right hon. Gentleman. I was coming to that. If the Act is obsolete, ...
Andrew George | 498 c94 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendments 18, 23 and 42—
Lord Benyon | 498 c90 (Link to this contribution) Looking at you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I see that I shall have to use my words carefully to keep them r...
Austin Mitchell | 498 c90-1 (Link to this contribution) I want to help the hon. Gentleman, because he is fishing for flounders at the moment. It is interest...
Lord Benyon | 498 c91-2 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving me this opportunity to say that I have not at any sta...
Frank Doran | 498 c92 (Link to this contribution) Now that I am rising to speak, I think that we are to hear a full set of office-bearers from the all...
Speaker | 498 c93 (Link to this contribution) Order. I hope that the hon. Gentleman will resist the temptation to lead us into a full-scale debate...
Frank Doran | 498 c93-4 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate your point, Mr. Deputy Speaker, but I would just point out that the hon. Member for Na ...
David Davis | 498 c90 (Link to this contribution) I find myself in the unusual position of coming from the left field, as my hon. Friend describes it,...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 498 c95 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman mentions MCZs. Can he envisage a time when fish are protected from creatures such...
Andrew George | 498 c96 (Link to this contribution) There will increasingly be an opportunity, particularly under the IFCAs, to recognise that there is ...
Austin Mitchell | 498 c95 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the hon. Gentleman on that last point. The fishing industry and conservation groups hav...
Andrew George | 498 c95 (Link to this contribution) That is an important point, but there is a shared interest in ensuring that there are controls on ac...
Lord Beith | 498 c97 (Link to this contribution) May I put it this way to my hon. Friend? It would be irresponsible to designate an MCZ if it was kno...
Andrew George | 498 c97-8 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is absolutely right. Such a situation would not only undermine the authority of...
Martin Salter | 498 c96 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on his bravery in attempting to tackle the matter. Will he inform ...
Andrew George | 498 c96-7 (Link to this contribution) I was encouraged down a route that was not part of my speech, which I shall return to. Before I tur...
Speaker | 498 c95 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Gentleman does not have to move them. It is only if he wishes to press them at the e...
Andrew George | 498 c95 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for your advice. I did not want to miss the opportunity an...
Martin Salter | 498 c109-10 (Link to this contribution) As my hon. Friend bears the scars of the Bill Committee and we shared many hours on this subject tog...
Linda Gilroy | 498 c109 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased that my hon. Friend has heard from Mr. David Murphy, who is doing excellent work in dev...
Linda Gilroy | 498 c110 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend confirm that there is a perception that these guidelines might not be issued unt...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c110 (Link to this contribution) Once again, this has been an excellent debate. To refer to the last point first, I confirm that we a...
Martin Salter | 498 c108-9 (Link to this contribution) I certainly support the power in the Bill to have, on the basis of good scientific evidence, MCZs th...
Martin Salter | 498 c109 (Link to this contribution) No. The Marine Conservation Society wrote the following to the Minister back on 3 July:""The true v...
Rob Marris | 498 c112 (Link to this contribution) On the grounds for designation of marine conservation zones, clause 117(7) refers to the "economic o...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c110-2 (Link to this contribution) Yes, indeed I can. I cannot give my hon. Friend a date, but I can tell her that we have actively bee...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c112 (Link to this contribution) Yes, indeed. That is where the debate has to take us, both now and in future months and years. Altho...
Austin Mitchell | 498 c104 (Link to this contribution) I did not say that there were proposals to ban fishing in the marine conservation zones, but what I ...
Rob Marris | 498 c104 (Link to this contribution) There we go, that is another red herring, as it is not in the Bill. If we look at the Bill, we find ...
Austin Mitchell | 498 c105 (Link to this contribution) My point was simply that conservation measures are best handled on a universal basis within our fish...
Rob Marris | 498 c104-5 (Link to this contribution) Let me make my point and then I will give way. Inherent in amendment 44 and new clause 8 is the conc...
Austin Mitchell | 498 c105 (Link to this contribution) One cannot do conservation in itsy-bitsy pieces in minute marine conservation zones—or small marine ...
Rob Marris | 498 c105 (Link to this contribution) On that basis, my hon. Friend no doubt realises that there is no contradiction between marine conser...
Lord Deben | 498 c105-6 (Link to this contribution) When the system is localised, the hon. Member for Great Grimsby (Mr. Mitchell) says that a generalis...
Rob Marris | 498 c105 (Link to this contribution) That depends on how big those marine conservation zones are and how deep the pre-existing depredatio...
Rob Marris | 498 c106-7 (Link to this contribution) That is one of the few illuminating pieces of evidence in this part of the debate. Right hon. and ho...
Charles Walker | 498 c107 (Link to this contribution) I hope the hon. Gentleman will recognise that I was expressing concern that accidental damage might ...
Martin Salter | 498 c107 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for Great Grimsby (Mr. Mitchell) on lightening our proceedings. I thi...
Martin Salter | 498 c108 (Link to this contribution) No, I will not. I have huge affection and respect for my hon. Friend the Member for Great Grimsby. ...
Martin Salter | 498 c107-8 (Link to this contribution) I welcome that clarification. There need not be a conflict between fishing—whether commercial or re...
Austin Mitchell | 498 c108 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his moving tribute to me, but, as far as I know, we are talking ...
Martin Salter | 498 c108 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way to my hon. Friend.
Martin Salter | 498 c108 (Link to this contribution) No, because there is very little time. The commercial sector broke those quotas by a factor of 100 ...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c112 (Link to this contribution) Quite the contrary. Let me make it clear that the reporting requirement in the Bill is there so that...
Martin Salter | 498 c112-3 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister accept that although there might be short-term pain, it could be for long-term gai...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c113 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend rightly makes the point that there can be positives as well as negatives in these mea...
Andrew George | 498 c112 (Link to this contribution) Even so, the Minister has perpetually repeated that the Bill represents a balance between conservati...
Andrew George | 498 c117 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I seek your guidance. We have had some good debates so far,...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c113-4 (Link to this contribution) We have other amendments to deal with, so I shall make progress. Amendment 23, which was tabled by ...
Austin Mitchell | 498 c117 (Link to this contribution) I do not intend to prolong the debate, but I am surprised by the amount of passion against the fishi...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c114-7 (Link to this contribution) I have so much to get through. In any event, the amendment does not work. It undermines the offence...
Speaker | 498 c117 (Link to this contribution) Unfortunately, these matters are not in the hands of the Chair. To be honest, points of order like t...
Baroness Clark of Kilwinning | 498 c119 (Link to this contribution) It would be of great assistance; I appreciate the Minister's comments. Coast proposes that the whol...
Ann McKechin | 498 c119 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for her comments and commend the work of the Coast group on the Isle of Arran...
Speaker | 498 c118 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
Lord Benyon | 498 c120 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for North Ayrshire and Arran (Ms Clark) on tabling the amendment. Rig...
Austin Mitchell | 498 c120 (Link to this contribution) I shall not detain the House long, but I am concerned to introduce the principle that the existing s...
Robert Key | 498 c119 (Link to this contribution) I have been looking forward all day to speaking on this group of amendments, and I congratulate the ...
Baroness Clark of Kilwinning | 498 c119-20 (Link to this contribution) I will listen very carefully to what the Minister has to say at the end of the debate, but I agree t...
Ann McKechin | 498 c121 (Link to this contribution) I confirm that we stand by every sentence in that letter.
Paddy Tipping | 498 c121 (Link to this contribution) It is a great pity that there is such a limited amount of time to talk about marine conservation. It...
Andrew George | 498 c122 (Link to this contribution) I am disappointed and angry that this central element of the Bill has been allowed so little time. I...
Paddy Tipping | 498 c121-2 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful that the Minister has put that point on the record, because it reinforces the importan...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 498 c122 (Link to this contribution) One minor point is that the science is often not unchallengeable, but the question that often arises...
Frank Doran | 498 c123 (Link to this contribution) I will be brief. I want to reinforce the point that a balance is important. The Bill is extremely im...
Philip Hollobone | 498 c123-4 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to be a signatory to amendment 3, although it is a great shame that the issue was not p...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 498 c124 (Link to this contribution) I am listening to what the hon. Gentleman is saying about eco-systems, but does he accept that they ...
Ann McKechin | 498 c125 (Link to this contribution) No, I have only one minute left. My other concern about the amendment is more technical. We have ha...
Linda Gilroy | 498 c125 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend confirm that, as the Under-Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Af...
Ann McKechin | 498 c124-5 (Link to this contribution) I confirm to my hon. Friend the Member for Sherwood (Paddy Tipping) that the Minister's letter of 22...
Philip Hollobone | 498 c124 (Link to this contribution) I accept that ecosystems can move around. I am sure that there is scientific debate about that, but ...
Lord Benyon | 498 c49 (Link to this contribution) I entirely understand the hon. Gentleman's point. What I am saying is certainly not a criticism of h...
Lord Benyon | 498 c50-2 (Link to this contribution) I was not in the House at the time. May we draw a line under this argument? I did not intend to crea...
Martin Salter | 498 c52-3 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for Newbury (Mr. Benyon)—his Front-Bench colleagues would do well to ...
Lord Benyon | 498 c48-9 (Link to this contribution) We move on to part 9 of the Bill, on coastal access. Many Members might feel, like me, that that par...
Angela C Smith | 498 c49 (Link to this contribution) According to another source, Natural England has estimated that""there is no satisfactory or legally...
Martin Salter | 498 c38 (Link to this contribution) I support the Government's new clauses and consequential amendments, and I thank the Minister for re...
Speaker | 498 c31 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, who has moved the programme motion in what I might describe as ...
Speaker | 498 c32-3 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c33 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to new clauses 2, 3, 4, 5 and 5, and amendments 6 to 8. Part 6 will replace sea fishe...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c34 (Link to this contribution) That is a good point. The Bill is future-proofed, in that the Secretary of State, with the agreement...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c34 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend, who is a stalwart advocate of the fisheries not only in terms of Grimsby, in his con...
Andrew George | 498 c34 (Link to this contribution) Do the Government's proposed changes risk causing an unintended consequence? Sea fisheries committee...
Roger Williams | 498 c43 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for spelling out the matter in such great detail. Is he saying that the Welsh A...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c43 (Link to this contribution) I shall explain the contrast and then give way. That is not the case for the Government amendments o...
Speaker | 498 c48 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
Lord Benyon | 498 c48 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment 35, page 187, line 28, leave out 'is' and insert 'may be'.
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c43-4 (Link to this contribution) No, that is not exactly the case. However, the situation on the ground in Wales means that by virtue...
Bob Spink | 498 c39 (Link to this contribution) The inshore fleet in the Thames estuary has acted responsibly, building conservation for many decade...
Charles Walker | 498 c39 (Link to this contribution) I shall make only a brief contribution. I have served on the Bill in all its forms for about 18 mont...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c41 (Link to this contribution) I agree. There are, and will continue to be, different priorities in different parts of the fishing ...
Roger Williams | 498 c39-40 (Link to this contribution) I, too, have taken great pleasure in being part of the Bill, because it is hugely important to prote...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c41 (Link to this contribution) I confirm that what we all want—and what the Bill is designed to do—is to ensure that those interest...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c30 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to bring back to this House the Marine and Coastal Access Bill, after it has been consi...
Speaker | 498 c30 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am reluctant to interrupt the hon. Gentleman, but it would be helpful to me and to the Hous...
Lord Benyon | 498 c49 (Link to this contribution) We could take up a lot of time arguing about maths. Charles Clover goes on to say that a place in hi...
Paddy Tipping | 498 c49 (Link to this contribution) I was heavily involved with the Bill that became the CROW Act. It gave no impression of a universal ...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c34-5 (Link to this contribution) No. The Bill includes a provision to formalise agreements on working across estuaries or water areas...
Lord Benyon | 498 c36 (Link to this contribution) It is a great pleasure to have the Bill back on the Floor of the House. I hope that the constructive...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c35-6 (Link to this contribution) No, we would not want to have to wait five years for a review. It would be within the Secretary of S...
Roger Williams | 498 c35 (Link to this contribution) If an IFCA delegated a responsibility to another body, such as the Environment Agency, and subsequen...
Bill Wiggin | 498 c38 (Link to this contribution) It is no good the hon. Gentleman attacking me, because after my intervention I heard the Ministers s...
Martin Salter | 498 c38 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman, for whose support in Committee on this matter I was grateful. The reason...
Lord Benyon | 498 c38 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman puts his finger on a potential problem, which is defining exactly where estuaries...
Martin Salter | 498 c38-9 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to attack any Member, as the hon. Gentleman well knows. Far more importantly, I am happy ...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c30-1 (Link to this contribution) I stand corrected, Mr. Speaker, and I apologise. I beg to move,"That the Order of 23 June 2009 (Mar...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c32 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Austin Mitchell | 498 c34 (Link to this contribution) I have no quarrel with or opposition to what is proposed, because it seems a sensible redistribution...
Martin Salter | 498 c45 (Link to this contribution) May I throw the Minister another argument that he might wish to pray in aid? If the Welsh Assembly G...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c44-5 (Link to this contribution) No, not least because, now that the Bill has come through Public Bill Committee and travelled throug...
Roger Williams | 498 c44 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister again for going into so much detail, but he will understand that there are stil...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c42-3 (Link to this contribution) Not only will the IFCA membership be decided in consultation, but everybody will have the opportunit...
Bill Wiggin | 498 c41 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister outline what people should do if they do not agree with the make-up?
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c40 (Link to this contribution) I thank hon. Members for the spirit in which we have begun this debate. It is reminiscent of the app...
Martin Salter | 498 c41 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that clarification. He will be aware of representations from the Angling Tr...
Lord Benyon | 498 c59 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman was a thoughtful member of the Public Bill Committee, and I respect his views. Wh...
Andrew George | 498 c36-7 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to have this opportunity to reflect on the Committee stage of the Bill. The debate has ...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c45 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has made a helpful intervention. I would not want to say that the co-ordination with ...
Angela C Smith | 498 c55-6 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention, but point out that it has been calculated that sinc...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c54 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman might be around later in the debate when, if we are fortunate enough to catch you...
Martin Salter | 498 c50 (Link to this contribution) I thank my friend and neighbour for giving way. I am not excited, and I am always benign to him. Doe...
Tom Levitt | 498 c74 (Link to this contribution) As my hon. Friend knows, my constituency has no coastal path but does contain a huge number of well-...
Alan Whitehead | 498 c59-60 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a strong case, with which I wholeheartedly agree, that the best way to achi...
Andrew George | 498 c122-3 (Link to this contribution) That is a fair point, but on the other hand scientists increasingly depend on fishermen to gather th...
Bernard Jenkin | 498 c57-8 (Link to this contribution) I have spoken to the Bill only once before, on Second Reading, when I discussed its fisheries conser...
Lord Benyon | 498 c50 (Link to this contribution) My friend and neighbour the Member for Reading, West (Martin Salter) looks very excited.
Alan Whitehead | 498 c61 (Link to this contribution) Having walked around almost the entire coastline of the Isles of Scilly and some of the uninhabited ...
Austin Mitchell | 498 c88 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has been very patient, although he has provoked many interjections. I rise to dis...
Baroness Clark of Kilwinning | 498 c118 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to have the opportunity to contribute to this debate. I wish to speak to amendment ...
Lord Deben | 498 c120-1 (Link to this contribution) I rise to support amendment 3, which has been moved by the hon. Member for North Ayrshire and Arran ...
Bill Wiggin | 498 c34 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister be kind enough to explain briefly why he has chosen the Environment Agency rather ...
Andrew George | 498 c41 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has mentioned Newlyn. He will be aware that there are conflicts between different fishi...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 498 c92-3 (Link to this contribution) I would like to speak in support of the hon. Member for Great Grimsby (Mr. Mitchell) and against the...
Baroness Clark of Kilwinning | 498 c117 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment 3, page 78, line 32, at end insert—
Ann McKechin | 498 c125 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to confirm that that is indeed the case, and I am pleased to put that on the record. H...
Subjects
Access
Common fisheries policy
Conservation
Coastal areas
Cooperation
Countryside
Fisheries
Environment protection
Land use
Inshore fishing
Environment Agency
Isles of Scilly
Isle of Wight
Estuaries
Planning
Public bodies
Public footpaths
Marine animals
Wales
Sports
Rights of way
Seas and oceans
Welsh Government
Angling
Natural England
Marine Management Organisation
Marine conservation zones
Inshore fisheries and conservation authorities
Legislation
Marine and Coastal Access Bill (HL) 2008-09
Link
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