Welfare Reform Bill
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
712 c179-204GC 
Session
2008-09
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Welfare Reform Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 32-EN also published.
Wednesday, 18 March 2009
Bills
House of Lords
Wednesday, 18 March 2009
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Skelmersdale | 712 c182GC (Link to this contribution)
With the greatest respect, that is not correct. The "Minister" is defined in Section 41 as the Minis...
Baroness Crawley | 712 c183GC (Link to this contribution)
In those circumstances, I am happy to withdraw it. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment...
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Baroness Crawley | 712 c182GC (Link to this contribution)
The registrar would not mention or deal with child maintenance issues.
The noble Lord, Lord Kirkwoo...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 712 c204GC (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may emphasise that a key part of the post-legislative scrutiny approach will be for a repo...
Lord Skelmersdale | 712 c196GC (Link to this contribution)
Back to me, I am afraid. My noble friend and I tabled this amendment as a response to your Lordships...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 712 c194GC (Link to this contribution)
My penultimate group of amendments represents a straightforward probe. Schedule 6 makes certain amen...
Baroness Meacher | 712 c186-7GC (Link to this contribution)
On the financial side, inclusion of the father on the birth certificate will encourage him to pay ch...
Lord Skelmersdale | 712 c182GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Baroness. I recognise, as she said almost in her opening sentence, that w...
Baroness Crawley | 712 c182GC (Link to this contribution)
I hope that the following additional information will reassure the noble Lord. The "Minister" is def...
Baroness Crawley | 712 c183GC (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps we are talking about different versions; the noble Lord may have an older version of the Act...
Baroness Thomas of Winchester | 712 c183-5GC (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak also to the other amendments in this group but, before doing so, I thank the Minister ...
Baroness Crawley | 712 c179GC (Link to this contribution)
Schedule 6: Registration of births
Amendment 178ZC
178ZC: Schedule 6, page 93, leave out lines 28 ...
Baroness Gould of Potternewton | 712 c179GC (Link to this contribution)
Good afternoon. We are now on the ninth Marshalled List of amendments to be moved in Grand Committee...
Baroness Crawley | 712 c181-2GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank noble Lords for their questions. A number of noble Lords raised a number of issues. The nobl...
Lord Northbourne | 712 c182GC (Link to this contribution)
I realise what the Minister has just said, but my question was: will the man be informed of this? If...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 712 c202-3GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Lord, Lord Northbourne, for his amendment, which I hope I will be able to convince...
Lord Northbourne | 712 c204GC (Link to this contribution)
I think that I got about three and a half out of five. I accept the argument of the noble Lord, Lord...
Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 712 c199-200GC (Link to this contribution)
This is an important amendment and I support it. The Bill is about the long term. The importance of ...
Lord Northbourne | 712 c198GC (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 188
188: After Clause 51, insert the following new Clause—
"Independent review of the imp...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 712 c196GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that response. I have been trying to follow what she has been saying about ...
Baroness Thomas of Winchester | 712 c193-4GC (Link to this contribution)
There is one matter that concerns both me and Gingerbread. The noble Baroness said on Thursday, and ...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 712 c189GC (Link to this contribution)
My inclination is to support these two amendments, although I was very interested in the contributio...
Baroness Meacher | 712 c188GC (Link to this contribution)
My evidence comes from the family court—in particular, from judges.
Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 712 c186GC (Link to this contribution)
I am listening intently.
Lord Skelmersdale | 712 c183GC (Link to this contribution)
From what is the noble Baroness reading?
Baroness Crawley | 712 c183GC (Link to this contribution)
From the Births and Deaths Registration Act 1953, amended as per Welfare Reform Bill, introduced 14 ...
Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 712 c181GC (Link to this contribution)
Briefly, Part 4, Clause 46 and Schedule 6 are different. They have absolutely nothing to do with wel...
Lord Northbourne | 712 c181GC (Link to this contribution)
I should like to follow the noble Lord in asking for more detail on Amendment 178ZE, because it is d...
Lord Northbourne | 712 c204GC (Link to this contribution)
That just makes it one step more complicated, does it not? And it will all be leaked to the press be...
Baroness Thomas of Winchester | 712 c199GC (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Northbourne, on his amendment. He has put his finger on many of ...
Lord Skelmersdale | 712 c197GC (Link to this contribution)
I think that that gives me half marks probably; that is, for tabling an amendment in the first place...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 712 c197-8GC (Link to this contribution)
Schedule 7: Repeals and revocations
Amendments 179 to 187
179: Schedule 7, page 106, leave out lin...
Baroness Crawley | 712 c196-7GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Lord, Lord Skelmersdale, for his amendment, which seeks to provide that the prescr...
Lord Skelmersdale | 712 c196GC (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 178E
178E: Schedule 6, page 101, line 17, leave out "2B(4)" and insert "2B(1), (4)"
Baroness Crawley | 712 c194-5GC (Link to this contribution)
I hope that I can explain clearly what the problem is. I thank the noble Lord, Lord Taylor, for tabl...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 712 c194GC (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 178BC
178BC: Schedule 6, page 96, line 27, leave out ""12" and insert ""6"
Baroness Meacher | 712 c193GC (Link to this contribution)
The evidence that I have is not about divorce; it is about child custody cases.
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 712 c193GC (Link to this contribution)
Does the noble Baroness also agree that if the evidence is based on judges’ comments, which almost i...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 712 c188-9GC (Link to this contribution)
This has been a very interesting debate. The noble Baroness, Lady Meacher, has taken the argument on...
Baroness Thomas of Winchester | 712 c193GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in the debate, particularly the noble Baroness, Lady Mea...
Baroness Meacher | 712 c185-6GC (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak to Amendments 178C and 178D, which seek, as the noble Baroness, Lady Thomas, said, to ...
Lord Skelmersdale | 712 c183GC (Link to this contribution)
That makes me even more confused, although it is not worth prolonging this argument now. However, I ...
Baroness Thomas of Winchester | 712 c183GC (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 178A
178A: Schedule 6, page 94, line 34, at beginning insert "Save where subsection (1A) ...
Baroness Crawley | 712 c179-80GC (Link to this contribution)
This amendment and those grouped with it are technical amendments necessary to effect new Sections 2...
Lord Skelmersdale | 712 c180-1GC (Link to this contribution)
It is with some regret that I have to issue a small warning to the Minister: if I do not like her re...
Lord Skelmersdale | 712 c204GC (Link to this contribution)
Before the noble Lord, Lord Northbourne, responds, I admit to a failure both by me and the Minister....
Baroness Meacher | 712 c200-1GC (Link to this contribution)
I want to speak briefly in support of the amendment. As the Minister and others are aware, I am very...
Lord Skelmersdale | 712 c201GC (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord, Lord Northbourne, has delivered a trenchant argument to support his amendment, which...
Lord Skelmersdale | 712 c202GC (Link to this contribution)
I also add my congratulations to his multitude of advisers in this essentially five-part Bill, who h...
Lord Northbourne | 712 c198-9GC (Link to this contribution)
I shall not keep the Committee for long. I think that all of the Committee is agreed on the basic pr...
Baroness Crawley | 712 c189-93GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Thomas, who moved the amendment, the noble Baroness, Lady Meacher, ...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 712 c187-8GC (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may ask the noble Baroness what evidence she has of fathers seeking to be on birth certifi...
Lord Northbourne | 712 c188GC (Link to this contribution)
The noble Baroness, Lady Hollis, has to admit that some mothers are embittered by having been abando...
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