Parliamentary search - Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill

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Parliamentary proceeding

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712 c50-71,86-106

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2008-09

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Department for Business, Innovation and Skills

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Committee stage

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House of Lords chamber

Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 42-EN also published.
Wednesday, 6 May 2009
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Lord Lucas | 712 c96-7 (Link to this contribution) Fine. If the local authority "agrees with", it is getting into the interstices of a college and tell...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 712 c96 (Link to this contribution) I will have one more go. "Secure" means reaching an agreement with the college on how much it can de...

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Lord Lucas | 712 c96 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I will. There are one or two other points that I want to come on to. If what I said is not true...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 712 c94 (Link to this contribution) I thought I had endeavoured to cover that. I am happy, however, to return to the issue again. Local ...

Lord Lucas | 712 c93-4 (Link to this contribution) I cannot say I find myself much reassured by that. We seem to be replacing a system that has relied ...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 712 c93 (Link to this contribution) I cannot argue with the maths. We would say that on that basis we are picking up a huge amount. Ther...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 712 c96 (Link to this contribution) I am emphatically not saying that. I do not want to be misrepresented. I am not saying that that is ...

Lord Lucas | 712 c96 (Link to this contribution) But none the less what the noble Lord is saying is that the local authorities will have the power to...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 712 c95 (Link to this contribution) I must admit that I am now a trifle puzzled by the noble Lord. On the one hand he wants ultimate fle...

Lord Lucas | 712 c94-5 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that I am much wiser at the end of that. I agree with the noble Lord that local author...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 712 c87-8 (Link to this contribution) I am interested in these amendments that the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, has put down—somewhat belatedly...

Lord De Mauley | 712 c93 (Link to this contribution) Do I understand the Minister right? He said that 90 per cent of students would be picked up by the s...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 712 c89-92 (Link to this contribution) I apologise in advance for what will probably be quite a lengthy contribution, because I want to pla...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 712 c71 (Link to this contribution) This government amendment takes account of the recommendations of the Delegated Powers and Regulator...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 712 c71 (Link to this contribution) Schedule 1: Employee study and training: minor and consequential amendments Amendment 91 91: Sched...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 712 c71 (Link to this contribution) The advice that I have had is that there is no difference in the overall objectives, but the governm...

Lord De Mauley | 712 c71 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister. I think I am right, as she seemed to suggest, that we are both aiming...

Lord Lucas | 712 c86-7 (Link to this contribution) In moving Amendment 91A I shall speak to the other amendments in the group. These amendments are int...

Lord Lucas | 712 c86 (Link to this contribution) Clause 40: Education and training for persons over compulsory school age: general duty: Amendment 9...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 712 c101 (Link to this contribution) I support these amendments. It is important that we consider them both as specifics and in the wider...

Lord Addington | 712 c100-1 (Link to this contribution) I will join the Committee debate for the first time. When I looked at the Bill and the type of brief...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 712 c106 (Link to this contribution) To a degree, I am reassured by what the Minister has said and I thank him very much for the full ans...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 712 c102-6 (Link to this contribution) I turn first to the opening remarks of the noble Baroness, Lady Sharp, on expenditure. We are not ta...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 712 c97-9 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak also to Amendments 97, 99 and 100, which fall in the same grouping. Before I address t...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 712 c97 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 92 92: Clause 40, page 23, line 27, after "diversity" insert "and inclusion"

Lord De Mauley | 712 c100 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness, Lady Sharp, raises some important points. We have already held extensive debates...

Lord Rix | 712 c99 (Link to this contribution) There appears to be a certain amount of cross-fertilisation between the amendments of the noble Baro...

Lord De Mauley | 712 c71 (Link to this contribution) Very well. I thank the Minister and am happy, on that basis, to beg leave to withdraw the amendment....

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 712 c71 (Link to this contribution) We will write to the noble Lord to confirm the normal practice.

Baroness Wall of New Barnet | 712 c69 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may suggest that Amendment 89 probably relates to new subsection (2), at the bottom of pag...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 712 c69 (Link to this contribution) I found both those amendments perfectly reasonable. However, having heard what the noble Baroness, L...

Lord De Mauley | 712 c71 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Wall, for her comments, which I will consider carefully, a...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 712 c65-7 (Link to this contribution) I understand the desire of noble Lords on all sides to get the balance right between employer and em...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 712 c67-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for his explanations. These are probing amendments seeking clarificati...

Lord De Mauley | 712 c68 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 89 89: Clause 39, page 21, line 3, at end insert— "( ) fails to attend more than two cons...

Lord De Mauley | 712 c68-9 (Link to this contribution) As will be clear from the debate on the previous group of amendments, we support the time-to-train p...

Viscount Eccles | 712 c65 (Link to this contribution) It is precisely this kind of debate that makes me wish that we had a general duty on employers and m...

Baroness Wall of New Barnet | 712 c64-5 (Link to this contribution) I, too, have some sympathy with a number of the amendments raised by the noble Baroness, Lady Sharp....

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 712 c64 (Link to this contribution) I have considerable sympathy with these amendments but, like the noble Lord, Lord De Mauley, I think...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 712 c61-3 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak also to Amendments 84 to 88. All these six amendments are probing amendments, dealing ...

Lord De Mauley | 712 c63-4 (Link to this contribution) As the Bill stands, the Government are attempting to introduce legislation that would give employees...

Viscount Eccles | 712 c60-1 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for that assurance. It might be helpful if that provision was at the b...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 712 c61 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 83 83: Clause 39, page 19, line 41, at end insert "which shall include at least a right t...

Viscount Eccles | 712 c60 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his reply and thank my noble friend and the noble Baroness, Lady Sharp, for...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 712 c60 (Link to this contribution) I assure the noble Viscount that it is absolutely the right of employees to initiate the process and...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 712 c59-60 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 81 would have the effect of allowing employees to request training other than that which w...

Viscount Eccles | 712 c58 (Link to this contribution) I shall be brief. I would still like to make an argument for the loosening up of Part 6. On the ques...

Lord De Mauley | 712 c59 (Link to this contribution) We support the right of employees to ask for time to train, but I share my noble friend’s concerns a...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 712 c58-9 (Link to this contribution) I give some support to the noble Viscount’s view that the number of references to regulations in thi...

Lord De Mauley | 712 c55 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his remarks, which seemed in fact to include a rather better case for my am...

Lord De Mauley | 712 c55 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 79A 79A: Clause 39, page 17, line 37, leave out "may make" and insert "wishing to make a ...

Lord De Mauley | 712 c55 (Link to this contribution) Our Amendment 79A is designed simply to seek assurances that the burden for filling out the form to ...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 712 c55-6 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 79A seeks to make it clear in the Bill that a qualifying employee wishing to make a reques...

Lord De Mauley | 712 c56 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister, who is correct in his understanding of the effect of the amendment an...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 712 c52 (Link to this contribution) I point out to the noble Viscount that my reading of this part of the Bill is that it applies not ju...

Viscount Eccles | 712 c51-2 (Link to this contribution) My issues on proposed new Part 6A go somewhat wider and, while I agree with the noble Baroness, Lady...

Baroness Wall of New Barnet | 712 c51 (Link to this contribution) I agree totally with the noble Baroness. This amendment deals with a situation where the ideal arran...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 712 c51 (Link to this contribution) We have quite a lot of sympathy with this amendment. However, on reading the debate on the same amen...

Viscount Eccles | 712 c52 (Link to this contribution) I apologise, because I have always been in the habit of talking about people being trained rather th...

Lord De Mauley | 712 c50 (Link to this contribution) Clause 39: Employee support for employee study and training Amendment 79 79: Clause 39, page 17, l...

Lord De Mauley | 712 c50 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 79 would quite simply protect those businesses whose good practice in arranging time for t...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 712 c70-1 (Link to this contribution) We certainly sympathise with the desire of Members opposite to keep burdens on business to a minimum...

Lord De Mauley | 712 c88-9 (Link to this contribution) This is a group of very useful amendments and I look forward to the Minister’s response to them. Do...

Viscount Eccles | 712 c58 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 80 80: Clause 39, page 17, line 39, leave out from beginning to end of line 2 on page 18

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 712 c53-5 (Link to this contribution) We must invest in our nation’s talent to succeed in the highly competitive global economy. There is ...

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