Parliamentary search - House of Lords (Members' Taxation Status) Bill [HL]

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Parliamentary proceeding

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708 c1357-82, (corrigendum) 1458

Session

2008-09

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Committee stage

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Private members' bills proceedings

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House of Lords chamber

House of Lords (Members' Taxation Status) Bill (HL).
Thursday, 4 December 2008
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Proceeding contributions

Lord Strathclyde | 708 c1378 (Link to this contribution) Before my noble friend stands up, I should point out that the noble Lord, Lord Oakeshott, used the w...

Viscount Astor | 708 c1378 (Link to this contribution) I—

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Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 708 c1378 (Link to this contribution) How nice it is to be able to say a few words on my own Bill. If the noble Lord, Lord Strathclyde, do...

Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 708 c1377-8 (Link to this contribution) That last point highlights how unsatisfactory—indeed I could probably go further than that if I was ...

Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 708 c1378 (Link to this contribution) I was asked to quote from this article and so I shall. It said: ""Lord Astor … denied his amendments...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 708 c1376 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that that is the case at all, but I am most grateful to the noble Viscount for his as...

Viscount Astor | 708 c1376 (Link to this contribution) I believe that the Government have said that they will expect any person in coming to this House in ...

Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 708 c1378 (Link to this contribution) It would be extremely helpful if noble Lords spoke moderately and intervened when essential.

Viscount Astor | 708 c1378-9 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Oakeshott, for what he said about the article in the Daily Tel...

Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 708 c1379 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to respond to that but I am trying to answer the first amendment. I am happy to accept—in...

Viscount Astor | 708 c1379 (Link to this contribution) Before my noble friend responds, I hope that I may ask the noble Lord, Lord Oakeshott, a question. M...

Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 708 c1379 (Link to this contribution) It will have to be accepted by the Treasury if we pass the Bill that says so. I base my remarks on t...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 708 c1380 (Link to this contribution) I must intervene on that point. It is not correct that you sign a form saying that you do not intend...

Lord Selsdon | 708 c1380 (Link to this contribution) I intervened only because the noble Lord—I have forgotten his name—actually called me an Earl. That ...

Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 708 c1381 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord sits down, because he is obviously replying, I am happy to clarify, although I...

Lord Selsdon | 708 c1381 (Link to this contribution) The question was also in the Telegraph the other way round, because I do not approve of the accusati...

Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 708 c1357 (Link to this contribution) That the House do now resolve itself into Committee

Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 708 c1357-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is slightly unusual and novel for me to deal with this matter, but I am happy to do so....

Lord Strathclyde | 708 c1358 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord is too critical of my noble friend, my recollection is that there ha...

Lord McNally | 708 c1358 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Strathclyde, is, as ever, being extremely helpful, not least in tryin...

Lord Selsdon | 708 c1358-9 (Link to this contribution) Clause 1: Taxation status of members of the House of Lords Amendment 1 1: Clause 1, page 1, line 2...

Lord Selsdon | 708 c1359-61 (Link to this contribution) I find myself in an extraordinary position of considerable nervousness, having recently with the nob...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 708 c1361 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord should have asked about the board of the Forestry Commission; I could have then told ...

Lord Selsdon | 708 c1361-2 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the noble Lord. Of course, before I do these things I consult the Leader’s off...

Lord Goodhart | 708 c1362 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Selsdon, for giving way. The short—

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 708 c1362 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord should perhaps turn round as he should address the whole Chamber.

Lord Goodhart | 708 c1362 (Link to this contribution) I was looking over my right shoulder in order to impose doom and gloom on the noble Lord. I apologis...

Lord Selsdon | 708 c1362-3 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the noble Lord. That is exactly what I hoped someone would say. Noble Lords wo...

Lord Selsdon | 708 c1363 (Link to this contribution) Today, I noticed sitting on the Benches a well known member of the Labour Party who, like me, was we...

Lord Lea of Crondall | 708 c1363 (Link to this contribution) Before this becomes a private spat between the Liberal Democrats and the Conservatives, I point out ...

Lord Trefgarne | 708 c1372 (Link to this contribution) That was not a silly point at all. It was quoted as an example of the idiosyncrasies that are contai...

Lord Goodhart | 708 c1372 (Link to this contribution) That remark only reinforces my view about the silliness of that discussion.

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 708 c1372 (Link to this contribution) Yes, the Conservatives are planning to go a little way towards it, but still not enough for some peo...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 708 c1370-1 (Link to this contribution) As I have been mentioned in the debate, I shall comment on the amendment, even more on the Bill itse...

Lord Trefgarne | 708 c1370 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend is entirely right. As far as I know, no significant number of people lives on Rockal...

Lord Strathclyde | 708 c1370 (Link to this contribution) I am puzzled. Are my noble friends Lord Trefgarne and Lord Selsdon saying that Rockall somehow shoul...

Lord Trefgarne | 708 c1369-70 (Link to this contribution) One of the difficulties with a Bill such as this, which sets out to correct what the noble Lord sees...

Lord Strathclyde | 708 c1372 (Link to this contribution) Vote Conservative.

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 708 c1371-2 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord for that, and I accept what he says. However, I then understood him to say th...

Lord Goodhart | 708 c1371 (Link to this contribution) With respect to the noble Baroness, I did not say that nationality was unimportant. I believe it is ...

Lord Selsdon | 708 c1366-7 (Link to this contribution) This is a perfectly reasonable statement to make. This is not a long speech; this is a long amendmen...

Lord Haskel | 708 c1367 (Link to this contribution) If this amendment is agreed, I cannot call Amendments 2 to 10 and Amendment 12 because of pre-emptio...

Viscount Astor | 708 c1367-9 (Link to this contribution) In preparation for my noble friend’s amendment, I printed a copy of an HM Treasury document, Reviewi...

Lord Selsdon | 708 c1363-4 (Link to this contribution) I would not have done this had I not consulted, for a considerable period of time, with the Public B...

Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 708 c1363 (Link to this contribution) Will the noble Lord address a very important point here? The word "citizen" is not mentioned anywher...

Lord Selsdon | 708 c1364 (Link to this contribution) It should be HMRC. Those territories have seen the stories flashing round in the press and feel pret...

Lord Lyell | 708 c1364 (Link to this contribution) The Revenue.

Lord Lyell | 708 c1365 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Wallace, and to the mover of the amendment for being late, but I...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 708 c1364 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is now in his 20th minute. He was in his 10th minute when he first mentioned the amen...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 708 c1366 (Link to this contribution) I recall intervening many years ago on Lord Shore, who was a rather long-winded Member of this House...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 708 c1375-6 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry that the noble Lord, Lord Strathclyde, mentioned the Marine and Coastal Access Bill. I ha...

Lord Strathclyde | 708 c1373-5 (Link to this contribution) I knew that this debate would prove interesting, and I have been proved correct. We have all learnt ...

Lord Goodhart | 708 c1372-3 (Link to this contribution) My view or my opinion, whichever you prefer. The noble Baroness must be taken seriously here, but t...

Lord Goodhart | 708 c1373 (Link to this contribution) As I understand the situation, the noble Baroness is right that the dual taxation treaty would not a...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 708 c1373 (Link to this contribution) Will the noble Lord explain to me, then, why Clause 1(1) uses the phrase, ""and in no other country ...

Lord Trefgarne | 708 c1357 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not intend to delay your Lordships for more than a short time on this Motion which th...

Lord Goodhart | 708 c1372 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness’s speech was, in many ways, refreshing. For the first time in the debate we have ...

Lord Selsdon | 708 c1365-6 (Link to this contribution) I was about to get to the third lot, which is of course Anguilla, Bermuda, British Antarctic Territo...

Lord Strathclyde | 708 c1377 (Link to this contribution) For the avoidance of doubt, and since the noble Lord was not there when I spoke, I was not for one m...

Notes

Correction on 13 March 2009 at 708 c1458: in Division 1 Lord Haworth should have been recorded as voting Not-Content in place of Lord Howarth of Newport.

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House of Lords (Members' Taxation Status) Bill (HL) 2008-09

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