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European Union (Amendment) Bill

Debate on bills on Wednesday, 18 June 2008, in the House of Lords, led by Baroness Ashton of Upholland. The answering member was Lord Howell of Guildford.
European Union (Amendment) Bill. Queens consent signified. Lords third reading debate. Agreed to on question. Bill passed.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
702 c1030-99 
Session
2007-08
Legislative stage
Third reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Proceeding contributions
Lord Richard | 702 c1033-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to make three points, and I hope that they may assist the House. Progress on the Bi...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c1031-3 (Link to this contribution) rose to move, as an amendment to the Motion that this Bill be now read a third time, to leave out fr...

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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c1030 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have it in command from Her Majesty the Queen to acquaint the House that she, having bee...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c1058 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may help the House in this exchange. An official statement from Prague this afte...
Lord Gilbert | 702 c1058 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am obliged to help from any quarter. My noble friend Lord Anderson is also the only one ...
Lord Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon | 702 c1059-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been an exceptional debate and I have been privileged to take part in it. Perhaps...
Lord Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon | 702 c1060-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are considering whether to go forward to complete the parliamentary process on this Bil...
Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 702 c1061 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Ashdown, but I would like to deal briefly with two point...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c1061 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, all we can do on the Front Bench is count the numbers. It is five each. There is time for ...
Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 702 c1061-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will deal with two arguments, one raised by the noble Lord, Lord King, and one raised by...
Lord Marlesford | 702 c1062-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will speak briefly at this late stage. To avoid adding to the confusion in the mind of t...
Baroness Ludford | 702 c1063 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was not able to be in the European Parliament in Strasbourg this morning, as I wanted to...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c1064-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been yet another interesting and high-quality discussion. I have sat through some...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c1067-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Lord President for her patience and endurance during recent weeks in coming to...
Lord Blackwell | 702 c1063-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have consistently opposed this treaty because I believe that it fossilises an outdated s...
Lord McNally | 702 c1064 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when I intervened at this stage last Wednesday and spoke for only two minutes I received s...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c1074 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support this amendment but fear that it may prove to be of little practical value becaus...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 702 c1073-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if this amendment were to commend itself to your Lordships it could afford another place a...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c1073 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sorry to interrupt, but Hansard is finding it difficult to hear. Will the noble Lord ...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 702 c1073 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1: 1: After Clause 6, insert the following new Clause— ““Consequences of non-r...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c1075 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I refer the noble Lord to the House of Commons Select Committee’s report on this matter. I...
Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 702 c1075 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if I understand it, by his own admission the noble Lord is giving us the speech that he sh...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c1075-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think I am entirely within the rules, which are to tidy up what has been said before. Th...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 702 c1076-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, for the past 33 years I have had the privilege of being a guest of the Irish nation, and I...
Lord Roper | 702 c1074 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord keeps referring to Brussels. It is in fact the member states acting unanimo...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c1074-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, more precisely, it is on proposals advanced in secret by the unelected Commission, passed ...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 702 c1075 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am fascinated to discover that the Commission has allocated exactly €235 million for thi...
Lord Roper | 702 c1077 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord says that every time there has been a consultation, this view has been expr...
Lord Waddington | 702 c1077 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have had a long discussion and noble Lords will bear with me for a moment if I touch on...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c1077 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord continues—and I hope that noble Lords will recognise that I have bee...
Lord Neill of Bladen | 702 c1034-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment. The Foreign Secretary said in his Statement the other day: "““The...
Lord Neill of Bladen | 702 c1037 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sorry that noble Lords do not like to be told the legal position. I would have though...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 702 c1037 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, is the legal position not the same as that in respect of the Nice treaty, which was reject...
Lord Neill of Bladen | 702 c1037-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, correct me if I am wrong, but the same treaty was ultimately put to the Irish population a...
Lord Tomlinson | 702 c1038 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for giving way. If he is seriously asking us to do what the Irish h...
Lord Neill of Bladen | 702 c1038 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall carry on. The last time I had really big support was at a planning inquiry, where ...
Lord King of Bridgwater | 702 c1041-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have to say to the noble Lord, Lord Wallace, that I was not quite sure how much of his c...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 702 c1038-41 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, many of us have been reading the Irish Times and the Irish Independent during the past two...
Lord Kinnock | 702 c1045 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord. He is motivated decently by concern for the Irish positio...
Lord Owen | 702 c1045-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Irish Government have asked people to use their own ratification procedures; they are ...
Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean | 702 c1042-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like to concentrate on the amendment proposed by the noble Lord, Lord Howell of G...
Lord Owen | 702 c1044-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like the noble Baroness and the noble Lord, Lord Richard, I believe that this House should...
Lord Sentamu | 702 c1046-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendment from the noble Lord, Lord Howell, says, "““notwithstanding the normal practi...
Lord Brittan of Spennithorne | 702 c1047-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, unlike the noble Baroness who spoke from below the gangway, I am not prepared to believe t...
Lord Davies of Coity | 702 c1046 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, does the noble Lord not think that the Prime Minister would be in a much better position i...
Lord Owen | 702 c1046 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Prime Minister’s judgment is better heard in this House before we make the final decis...
Earl of Onslow | 702 c1050 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have never heard anything so patronising about people in my life. The great Liberal part...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 702 c1050-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have not felt sufficiently expert to speak on the Bill before, but I would like to expre...
Lord Bach | 702 c1049 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is the turn of the Liberal Democrats.
Lord Goodhart | 702 c1049 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I propose to speak in favour of ratification as soon as possible, so I hope that any perso...
Lord Vinson | 702 c1049 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, would the noble Lord care to explain how the treaty makes us more democratic? Surely the I...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 702 c1054-5 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Jay, has spoken extremely wisely, and I very much endorse what he has said. It ...
Lord Jay of Ewelme | 702 c1053 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to address the specific question raised by the noble Lords, Lord Owen and Lor...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 702 c1052-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to support the amendment to the Motion, although my moratorium amendment will not b...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 702 c1051-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as in most things, one chooses one’s lawyer. I much prefer the legal opinion of the noble ...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 702 c1057-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as my noble friend knows, President Klaus is a longstanding opponent of the European Union...
Lord Gilbert | 702 c1058 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am so glad that my noble friend knows what the Czech constitutional court is going to sa...
Lord Gilbert | 702 c1057 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope I will be forgiven if I make a Third Reading speech on this amendment. I think that...
Lord Leach of Fairford | 702 c1055-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as we speak, I believe the Czechs are putting out a statement postponing ratification unti...
Lord Armstrong of Ilminster | 702 c1056-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is an ingenious amendment in response to the situation created by the decision of the...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c1090 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow that debate. I shall end in a sense by referring to the p...
Lord Elystan-Morgan | 702 c1088 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that I have not been unfair either to the noble Lord or to the Conservative Party. ...
Lord Dykes | 702 c1088-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, although quite rightly the noble Lord, Lord Elystan-Morgan, has posed that as a question, ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c1090-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have been at this a long time—do me a favour. I was surprised at the report part of the...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c1091 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to everyone who has participated in the debate. I just want to say to the no...
Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 702 c1086 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendment seems extremely injudicious and to cut absolutely across almost the sole poi...
Lord Sentamu | 702 c1086 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the purpose of the Bill before us is to ratify the treaty. If that is the case, to then sa...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 702 c1085-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support this amendment. It now is the sheet anchor, the Motion and the first amendment h...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c1084-5 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 2: 2: After Clause 6, insert the following new Clause— ““Parliamentary control...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 702 c1081 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I prefer not to withdraw the amendment. It is quite apparent that it has served more than ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c1080-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I indicated that those discussions were among officials and that such discussions take pla...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 702 c1088 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, of course, I am not the Conservative Party, but I am surprised at what the noble Lord has ...
Lord Elystan-Morgan | 702 c1087-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Wirral, has put forward a most superficially attractive argum...
Earl Ferrers | 702 c1087 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think that petty party considerations are behind this amendment. It is a great an...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 702 c1086-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I look forward to the next election in which the Conservative Party campaigns as the party...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c1094 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord would say that, wouldn’t he?
Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 702 c1094 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not know whether the noble Lord is aware of it but he used the phrase ““unclean hands...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c1094 (Link to this contribution) No, my Lords; I do not withdraw the fact that if one is in receipt of a pension that one can lose, i...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c1095 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think that I used the expression ““unclean hands””. That will be in the official ...
Lord Kinnock | 702 c1094 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord does so, perhaps I may ask him as a point of honour, since I have be...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c1093 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, he destroyed the Government’s red lines, which they pretend have been drawn in the matter ...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c1092-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have agreed not to divide the House on the passage of this Bill, as I did for Maastricht...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c1091 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that this Bill do now pass. Moved, That the Bill do now pass.—(Baroness Ash...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c1093-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as the noble Lord will know, the treaties themselves and the European staff guidelines mak...
Lord Tomlinson | 702 c1093 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord should realise that Members of the European Parliament are paid a salary by...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c1093 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, is it your Lordships’ pleasure that I should name them? I was not going to because a numbe...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c1094 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, of course I apologise to the noble Lord if he, of all those I am now being called on to na...
Lord Dykes | 702 c1094 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may remind the noble Lord that in the early 1970s I was a member of the old, une...
Lord Sentamu | 702 c1079 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, who, in the noble Lord’s analogy, are the Philistines?
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c1079 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not going to second-guess the most reverend Primate.
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c1079-80 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was not trying to curtail the debate; I was trying more to feed it into the debate on th...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c1080 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, what has happened to the discussions about preparing for the new presidency or the discuss...
Lord Waddington | 702 c1077 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not wish to delay noble Lords another moment, but I defy anybody in this House to ser...
Baroness Quin | 702 c1077-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I believe that the amendment is unnecessary. It simply says that, in the absence of progre...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c1078 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we shall not know how necessary this amendment is until we hear from the Minister. The nob...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 702 c1078-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, no blow-in in west Cork would ever dream of saying other than that we must respect the tre...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c1079 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I always defer to the noble Lord because I am very proud to have been listed alongside him...
Lord McNally | 702 c1096-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the great problem with the noble Lord, Lord Pearson, is that he has some charming qualitie...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c1096 (Link to this contribution) Yes, of course, my Lords; I have done so on many occasions. I am merely repeating the opinion of a f...
Lord Sentamu | 702 c1096 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord sits down, perhaps I may ask a question. When allegations, accusatio...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c1098-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I begin by saying that the speech of the noble Lord, Lord Pearson of Rannoch, was inevitab...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c1097-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree with one sentence only of the speech of the noble Lord, Lord Pearson, when he than...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 702 c1095 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it would be very good for the whole House if we could conclude these debates as soon as po...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c1095 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have about another two minutes, and I have saved your Lordships at least 12 minutes in a...
Lord Dykes | 702 c1089-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, thank you, I accept the correction—especially that of the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, who is ve...
Lord Goodhart | 702 c1050 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, around 40 per cent of the voters in the Irish referendum, when asked why they had voted no...
Lord McNally | 702 c1097 (Link to this contribution) I know how to win over an audience, my Lords. This is one of my longest speeches in the last two deb...
Lord Higgins | 702 c1060 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are not saying that we should abandon the parliamentary process. The noble Baroness, La...
Lord Goodhart | 702 c1049 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord seems to understand the treaty no more than most of the Irish voters. Two o...
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