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European Union (Amendment) Bill

Debate on bills and Committee of the Whole House (HC) on Wednesday, 6 February 2008, in the House of Commons.
European Union (Amendment) Bill. Committee stage fourth day. Amendment 237 negatived on division (135 to 336).
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Parliamentary proceeding
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471 c1038-87 
Session
2007-08
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Foreign and Commonwealth Office
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Committee stage
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House of Commons chamber
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European Union (Amendment) Bill. (Explanatory note Bill 48-EN published).
Monday, 17 December 2007
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House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Mark Francois | 471 c1038 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 237, page 1, line 12, after 'excluding', insert—
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 471 c1038 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 231, page 1, line 12, after...

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Mark Harper | 471 c1055 (Link to this contribution) If what the hon. Gentleman says is true, how does he explain the fact that the right hon. Member for...
Patricia Hewitt | 471 c1055 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making an extremely important point. Does he agree that by strengthening the EU in...
Ian Lucas | 471 c1055 (Link to this contribution) I do not agree with my right hon. Friend the Member for Neath, because I believe that the proposal i...
Ian Lucas | 471 c1056 (Link to this contribution) On a point of clarification, Wrexham has not benefited at any stage from objective 1 funding.
Mark Harper | 471 c1056-7 (Link to this contribution) I was not referring specifically to the hon. Gentleman. I was referring to the point about Wales gen...
Ian Lucas | 471 c1055 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes an excellent point. The reason why companies such as Wockhardt of India, ...
Chris Ruane | 471 c1055 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is giving an excellent exposition from the perspective of Wrexham. Does he agree that...
Mark Harper | 471 c1056 (Link to this contribution) I start by picking up seamlessly from where the hon. Member for Wrexham (Ian Lucas) finished. It is ...
Baroness Browning | 471 c1051 (Link to this contribution) Having handed powers over to the commissioner, the UK Government no longer have their own seat at th...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c1051 (Link to this contribution) Again, the right hon. Lady is wrong on that. The European Union is now trying to force economic part...
Patricia Hewitt | 471 c1051 (Link to this contribution) I must challenge the right hon. Gentleman on that point. It was the European Union, with the British...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 471 c1054 (Link to this contribution) Order. I must remind the hon. Gentleman of the large group of amendments on which he should focus hi...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c1053-4 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady shakes her head. Perhaps she has forgotten what she wrote in 2004, and it might ...
Ian Lucas | 471 c1054 (Link to this contribution) I strongly oppose amendment No. 237. We had an instructive debate earlier this afternoon, and the am...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c1052-3 (Link to this contribution) Of course, I want to stay in order, Mrs. Heal, but I think that the mobility of labour and the so-ca...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c1051-2 (Link to this contribution) That is what happens when countries export their powers as we have done, and grant a monopoly to a j...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 471 c1052 (Link to this contribution) Order. That subject comes under the next group of amendments to be discussed.
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 471 c1049 (Link to this contribution) Order. Please can we now direct our remarks to the amendment?
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c1049 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend recollects Mr. Jones—as he was, in a humbler incarnation, in those days. He has, of c...
Baroness Browning | 471 c1049 (Link to this contribution) One of the problems is that although many of us agreed with the initial concept of the single market...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c1049-50 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend knows that well, and she is absolutely right. It is striking that no other trade bloc...
Peter Bone | 471 c1050 (Link to this contribution) I agree entirely with my right hon. Friend. We cannot overstate how much over-regulation there is. L...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c1050 (Link to this contribution) That is another example of the point. I think that all hon. Members have their own examples. I still...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 471 c1050 (Link to this contribution) Order. Limited time is available and many Members wish to contribute, so may I ask hon. Members to c...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c1050 (Link to this contribution) I shall do that, but I must just mention the Lisbon process—I think that it is in order to do so. It...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c1051 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is entirely wrong. I know a little about Mercosur because I was once a junior Min...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c1046 (Link to this contribution) I will make an unusual concession in the House, which is that I do not feel that I have the same deg...
William Cash | 471 c1049 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend and I put the Lord Jones, as he is now is, to the test in that Committee. He co...
Laura Moffatt | 471 c1047-8 (Link to this contribution) I want to oppose amendment No. 237. As I am Parliamentary Private Secretary to my right hon. Friend ...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c1048 (Link to this contribution) I strongly support amendment No. 237. I want to reintroduce a topic that was debated earlier. The si...
Sion Simon | 471 c1046 (Link to this contribution) On the question of values, can we be clear about exactly what has happened? Free and undistorted com...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c1047 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has made his argument, and it stands for itself. To conclude, we do not support ...
Mark Harper | 471 c1048-9 (Link to this contribution) It is interesting to contrast my right hon. Friend's argument with that of the hon. Member for Crawl...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c1049 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is entirely right, and I am familiar with those figures. It is sad that one of our le...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c1048 (Link to this contribution) I share the right hon. Gentleman's antipathy towards excessive regulation, but does he accept that s...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c1048 (Link to this contribution) Of course any market needs a degree of regulation; that is obvious. The most extreme capitalist unde...
Colin Burgon | 471 c1061 (Link to this contribution) No, I am just drawing to a close. I am minded at this stage not to press my amendment to a Division...
Doug Henderson | 471 c1057 (Link to this contribution) I want to make a serious business point, not a party political one. Does the hon. Gentleman agree th...
Mark Harper | 471 c1058 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point. It is good if, within the EU, countries have the flexibility to t...
Rob Marris | 471 c1058 (Link to this contribution) May I suggest to the hon. Gentleman that he and I would draw completely opposite conclusions from th...
Mark Harper | 471 c1057-8 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that the industry and companies chosen by the hon. Gentleman are a terribly good exam...
Lord Brady of Altrincham | 471 c1058 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making an excellent contribution. In the context of what he is saying, does he agr...
Colin Burgon | 471 c1061 (Link to this contribution) In many respects, my amendment is a tactical response to drag into the public domain one of the key ...
Rob Marris | 471 c1061 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I have misunderstood my hon. Friend's amendment. The situation as regards the article 133 co...
Colin Burgon | 471 c1059-60 (Link to this contribution) As ever, Mrs. Heal, I hang on your every word. You have told us to be precise and to the point, so I...
Mark Harper | 471 c1059 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that the hon. Gentleman can have been paying attention. I was not talking about a Bri...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 471 c1046 (Link to this contribution) Order. May I remind the hon. Gentleman of my ruling? We are not debating the matter of a referendum ...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c1046 (Link to this contribution) I was trying to be helpful, Mrs. Heal, but I made a mistake in doing so. All that I observe is that ...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 471 c1046 (Link to this contribution) Order. I understand that the hon. Gentleman is responding to an intervention, but I must point out t...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c1045-6 (Link to this contribution) The problem with Conservative Members is that when I am trying to talk about the interests of Britis...
Lord Lilley | 471 c1045 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman explain to us and his constituents why he proposes not to vote for a referen...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c1045 (Link to this contribution) I recommend that Conservative Members always listen to my hon. Friend the Member for Twickenham (Dr....
Mark Harper | 471 c1045 (Link to this contribution) Having attended our earlier debate, I am now a little confused. The amendment tabled by the hon. Gen...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c1044-5 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps we should write a pamphlet together on that subject, as I completely agree with the hon. Gen...
Michael Connarty | 471 c1046 (Link to this contribution) I have followed the hon. Gentleman's argument against this amendment and for his amendment to amendm...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c1046 (Link to this contribution) What a relief that is, I am sure, to us all, but not least to the exceedingly tedious people on the ...
Alan Simpson | 471 c1044 (Link to this contribution) Clarity is obviously the keystone of all Liberal Democrat thinking. Will the hon. Gentleman be absol...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c1043-4 (Link to this contribution) It is rather wide, but it emphasises yet again that the Liberal Democrats are at the centre of the n...
Rob Marris | 471 c1044 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Jeremy Browne | 471 c1044 (Link to this contribution) Again, I fear that that would lead us astray and I anticipate being pulled up short. We have straye...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c1043 (Link to this contribution) What I can say? If one wants to observe protectionism, one need only watch the Conservative party de...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 471 c1043 (Link to this contribution) Order. That really is rather wide of the amendment under discussion.
Michael Connarty | 471 c1043 (Link to this contribution) The problem with the Liberal Democrats is that one has to look at the policies that they espouse in ...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c1044 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely generous and will continue to be so.
Rob Marris | 471 c1044 (Link to this contribution) I have some sympathy with the position set out by my hon. Friend the Member for Hemsworth (Jon Trick...
Mark Francois | 471 c1040-2 (Link to this contribution) Just before we voted at the end of our debate on the motion, the hon. Member for Leyton and Wanstead...
Rob Marris | 471 c1042 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that, were amendment No. 237 to be passed, it could disadvantage Briti...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c1042 (Link to this contribution) It is not the first time that that mistake has been made. However, I believe that my hon. Friend is ...
Mark Francois | 471 c1043 (Link to this contribution) I understand the hon. Gentleman's dilemma with regard to Liberal policy. Indeed, the whole House sym...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c1043 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that—it was not so much an intervention as a statement. I hope that I can say with...
Jon Trickett | 471 c1043 (Link to this contribution) At least we have a clear idea of where the Liberal Democrats intend to place themselves in the next ...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c1042-3 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that intervention because I agree with it. It is worth emphasising the hon. Gentle...
William Cash | 471 c1082 (Link to this contribution) We are obliged under the protocol to which the Minister refers to comply with convergence criteria a...
Jim Murphy | 471 c1082 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a case for the effectiveness of the protocol, not the opposite. The majori...
Jim Murphy | 471 c1082-3 (Link to this contribution) Unfortunately, I have only two minutes left and I wish to conclude. The fact is that those amendmen...
Jim Murphy | 471 c1079 (Link to this contribution) There are four Conservative Back Benchers here at the moment. The hon. Gentleman's amendment to the ...
Richard Shepherd | 471 c1079-80 (Link to this contribution) This is entirely nonsensical—the fancy dance before the guillotining of a constitutional motion. Thi...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 471 c1080 (Link to this contribution) Order. We are now getting on to the mechanics rather than the substance of the debate.
Jim Murphy | 471 c1080 (Link to this contribution) The only point I was making was that the framework for today's debate has been the one set out by Op...
William Cash | 471 c1080 (Link to this contribution) In the same spirit, the Minister cannot blame us for quoting predictions we made in those days if, a...
Jim Murphy | 471 c1080-2 (Link to this contribution) I cannot blame the hon. Gentleman. I missed his speech the first, second, third, fourth and fifth ti...
Jim Murphy | 471 c1083 (Link to this contribution) There is currently no proposal on the table, but we will look at the detail of any Commission propos...
Mark Francois | 471 c1083-4 (Link to this contribution) Following your instructions, Mrs. Heal, we will not reprise the debate about the business motion, bu...
Jon Trickett | 471 c1083 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend therefore agree to veto any Commission directive of the kind that we have seen, ...
Jon Trickett | 471 c1077 (Link to this contribution) I will, but only briefly, as the Whips are asking me to sit down sharply.
Jon Trickett | 471 c1075-7 (Link to this contribution) I understand that we are operating under time constraints. I shall speak to amendment No. 223 in my ...
Lord Lilley | 471 c1073-5 (Link to this contribution) It is always a privilege to follow the hon. Member for Linlithgow and East Falkirk (Michael Connarty...
Michael Connarty | 471 c1073 (Link to this contribution) I see that the hon. Member for Stone has the relevant papers. I shall not read from them, but it is ...
Mark Francois | 471 c1079 (Link to this contribution) Let me nail this one now. In their amendment to the motion, the Opposition proposed 18 days of debat...
Richard Shepherd | 471 c1078-9 (Link to this contribution) I was grateful for that intervention by the hon. Member for Hemsworth (Jon Trickett), and I want to ...
Jon Trickett | 471 c1077-8 (Link to this contribution) That intervention was slightly odd, as I have tabled precisely such an amendment; I am speaking to a...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c1069-70 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman said that the Convention was a traumatic experience, and indeed it was for everyb...
Michael Connarty | 471 c1070-2 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman laboured the point about regulation. I shall give him a book that I have re...
Jeremy Browne | 471 c1069 (Link to this contribution) I merely observe something about the Labour party. I believe that the hon. Member for Elmet (Colin B...
Michael Connarty | 471 c1069 (Link to this contribution) I remind the hon. Gentleman that he speaks as a member of the Liberal Democrats Front-Bench team. Ne...
Michael Connarty | 471 c1068-9 (Link to this contribution) I shall let the hon. Gentleman in when I have finished my analysis, because he has the right to take...
Michael Connarty | 471 c1068 (Link to this contribution) I am a humanist, not a confessional person, and I must say that because the hon. Member for Stone (M...
Michael Connarty | 471 c1072-3 (Link to this contribution) If that is the case, why was Scotland a bit of a wasteland for manufacturing under the Conservative ...
William Cash | 471 c1072 (Link to this contribution) Why does the hon. Gentleman believe that a customs union is necessary in order to be able to trade b...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 471 c1062 (Link to this contribution) Order. With that amount of knowledge, perhaps the hon. Gentleman could address his remarks to the am...
William Cash | 471 c1062-3 (Link to this contribution) I am simply making the point—I am not trying to avoid the ruling—that, ultimately, I had to say:"““W...
William Cash | 471 c1064 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend will have to restrain himself for just one second. I know that he does not agre...
William Cash | 471 c1064 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted that my right hon. Friend has said that. As it happens, for 20 years before I became ...
Lord Deben | 471 c1064 (Link to this contribution) I was present at exactly the same service as my hon. Friend this morning, but I am not saying that I...
William Cash | 471 c1064-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend, but in a spirit of amity with my right hon. Friend the Member for S...
Peter Bone | 471 c1064 (Link to this contribution) Speaking as someone who ran a manufacturing plc, which exported all over the world, including to Eur...
Ian Lucas | 471 c1055 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. Wales benefits hugely from the single market and from the EU. The contribu...
Rob Marris | 471 c1050 (Link to this contribution) Before I entered this House, one of my fields of expertise was vibration. I would be happy to talk t...
Jim Murphy | 471 c1079 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to have the opportunity to respond to this evening's debate on the amendments. I remi...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c1077 (Link to this contribution) This is important. The hon. Gentleman's precise concerns about single market powers being used to in...
William Cash | 471 c1061-2 (Link to this contribution) Today is Ash Wednesday, which is the day on which we ought to repent. I went to a service this morni...
Ian Lucas | 471 c1055 (Link to this contribution) The amendment is essentially about imposing additional burdens on the single market. The Opposition ...
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