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Lisbon Treaty (No. 3)

Debate and Debates on treaty on Tuesday, 5 February 2008, in the House of Commons, led by Jack Straw.
Debate on a motion to approve the Lisbon treaty (Cm 7294) in respect of provisions concerning human rights. Third day debate. Amendment negatived on division (170 to 362). Main question agreed to on division (363 to 168).
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
471 c795-877 
Session
2007-08
Department
Ministry of Justice
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Related items
Treaty of Lisbon amending the Treaty establishing the European Union and the Treaty establishing the European Community, including the Protocols and Final Act with Declarations. (Lisbon 2007).
Monday, 17 December 2007
Command papers
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Speaker | 471 c818 (Link to this contribution) Order. Now might be the moment for me to remind hon. Members that Mr. Speaker has placed a limit of ...
Andrew Dismore | 471 c820 (Link to this contribution) I have some concerns about human rights principles, but that is not one of them. I hope to develop t...

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William Cash | 471 c820 (Link to this contribution) In respect of the potential conflict between the two jurisdictions, the hon. Gentleman might recall ...
Andrew Dismore | 471 c818-9 (Link to this contribution) We have had a great deal of discussion of the charter of fundamental rights. I am not sure that I ca...
Dominic Grieve | 471 c819 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is making an important point about the need for the European Union to adhere to t...
David Lidington | 471 c817-8 (Link to this contribution) I shall try to make some progress and bring my remarks to a close. I am grateful to my hon. Friend t...
Speaker | 471 c817 (Link to this contribution) Order. Interventions are getting quite long, and I have to keep my eye on the time as this is a time...
Andrew Dismore | 471 c822 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the hon. Gentleman recalls that the Lord Chancellor challenged Conservative Members t...
Ed Davey | 471 c822 (Link to this contribution) It is always a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Hendon (Mr. Dismore), especially when it is no...
Andrew Dismore | 471 c820-2 (Link to this contribution) I will be coming to the question of accession later in my speech. At the moment, I am talking about...
David Lidington | 471 c816 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has still not grasped the fact that the Court's indirect application to UK law of...
John Redwood | 471 c816 (Link to this contribution) Is there not a simpler point? The European Court of Justice is a federalist, activist Court, which o...
David Lidington | 471 c816 (Link to this contribution) It is not only my right hon. Friend who says that Britain should opt out of the charter of fundament...
Mark Harper | 471 c816 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I can help my hon. Friend and the hon. Member for Kingston and Surbiton (Mr. Davey), whose c...
David Lidington | 471 c816 (Link to this contribution) That is not what my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Kensington and Chelsea was advocati...
Ed Davey | 471 c816 (Link to this contribution) We confirm that point in other areas of EU law, which are not always applied uniformly; for example,...
Rob Marris | 471 c816-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way; he is being very generous. He is eliding two thi...
David Lidington | 471 c816 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is more optimistic than I am; I have long given up hoping or expecting to hear a cons...
James Clappison | 471 c817 (Link to this contribution) On that point, does my hon. Friend share the European Scrutiny Committee's concern about the preambl...
David Lidington | 471 c817 (Link to this contribution) Unusually, the hon. Gentleman has failed to understand the thrust of the argument put not only by me...
Richard Shepherd | 471 c808 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Jack Straw | 471 c808 (Link to this contribution) I wish to conclude now; I am sorry to disappoint—
Jack Straw | 471 c808 (Link to this contribution) Where there is a passerelle clause, the move from unanimity to qualified majority voting can take pl...
William Cash | 471 c809 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?
Jon Trickett | 471 c809 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for taking so many interventions. I share his pleasure about t...
Jack Straw | 471 c809 (Link to this contribution) That would put the issue beyond doubt. The Under-Secretary of State for Justice, my hon. Friend the ...
Richard Shepherd | 471 c808 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for giving way—although, to add a note of sourness, I feel...
Richard Shepherd | 471 c805 (Link to this contribution) You have got four and a half hours.
Jack Straw | 471 c805 (Link to this contribution) No, I am going to make some progress.
Jack Straw | 471 c806-7 (Link to this contribution) No, I am going to make some progress and deal with the issue of labour rights, which is of concern t...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c807 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?
Jack Straw | 471 c807-8 (Link to this contribution) No; I want to make some progress. The Government can be proud of their record in championing the ri...
Michael Connarty | 471 c808 (Link to this contribution) I look forward to hearing from my right hon. Friend about the rights of children, which the treaty f...
Jack Straw | 471 c805-6 (Link to this contribution) Not all from me, for Pete's sake! I have given way to the hon. Gentleman already. I will give way to...
Malcolm Rifkind | 471 c806 (Link to this contribution) While it may indeed be the case that the charter does not provide for new rights, the European Court...
Jack Straw | 471 c806 (Link to this contribution) I thank the right hon. and learned Gentleman for that helpful intervention. It is our view that the ...
David Lidington | 471 c812 (Link to this contribution) The problem with the right hon. Lady's assertion is that we do not yet know what the text of any acc...
David Lidington | 471 c814-5 (Link to this contribution) I think that the learned professor's arguments do not match the arguments advanced by the Government...
Ed Davey | 471 c814 (Link to this contribution) May I refer the hon. Gentleman to an article by Professor Dashwood? He asked that same question:"““W...
David Lidington | 471 c813 (Link to this contribution) Yes. I want to deal with exactly that point in greater detail. The Government have relied on three ...
Ed Davey | 471 c812 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman says that the debate has to answer the question of whether the charter of fundame...
Malcolm Rifkind | 471 c815 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that if the Government had been more competent in negotiating the terms of...
David Lidington | 471 c815 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. and learned Friend's remarks are spot-on. As he knows, other protocols appended to Eur...
David Gauke | 471 c815 (Link to this contribution) Was my hon. Friend struck—as I was—by the fact that when our right hon. and learned Friend the Membe...
David Lidington | 471 c815 (Link to this contribution) I thought that our right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Kensington and Chelsea put the point...
Denis MacShane | 471 c815 (Link to this contribution) In fact, what the right hon. and learned Member for Kensington and Chelsea (Sir Malcolm Rifkind) pro...
Jack Straw | 471 c809-10 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way again, as I wish to conclude—I am sorry to have to disappoint the House by sayin...
Jack Straw | 471 c809 (Link to this contribution) No; I am going to finish, and I have already given way to the hon. Gentleman. To conclude my previo...
Denis MacShane | 471 c810 (Link to this contribution) Let us focus on a pledge and a promise made by his party leader? Is it Conservative policy to withdr...
David Lidington | 471 c810 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, to leave out from ““House”” to end and add instead thereof:"““disapproves of the Gove...
David Lidington | 471 c810-1 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman knows what my right hon. Friend the Leader of the Opposition said about see...
William Cash | 471 c811 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may assist my hon. Friend. The Secretary of State is wholly wrong in his assertion, becaus...
David Lidington | 471 c811 (Link to this contribution) In the absence of any detailed argument to the contrary, I find my hon. Friend's case persuasive. Th...
John Redwood | 471 c811 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that the major fallacy in the Secretary of State's argument is that all th...
David Lidington | 471 c811 (Link to this contribution) Throughout his speech, the Secretary of State carefully sidestepped the challenge posed by my right ...
Patricia Hewitt | 471 c811-2 (Link to this contribution) Surely the point is that the European convention on human rights provides explicitly that the Europe...
Speaker | 471 c802 (Link to this contribution) May I just reply to the other point of order first? It is not a point of order for the Chair. It is ...
David Winnick | 471 c802 (Link to this contribution) Further to that point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker.
David Winnick | 471 c802 (Link to this contribution) I realise that you are not directly involved, Madam Deputy Speaker, but it is rather unfortunate tha...
Daniel Kawczynski | 471 c801 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. The Member for Walsall, or wherever he is from, stated th...
Jack Straw | 471 c801 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to my right hon. Friend.
Daniel Kawczynski | 471 c802 (Link to this contribution) I take great exception to what has been shouted across the Floor about Poland—a major nation of the ...
Speaker | 471 c802 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am prepared to hear the hon. Gentleman's point of order, but I say to all hon. Members of t...
Speaker | 471 c801 (Link to this contribution) Order. I call Secretary Jack Straw.
Jack Straw | 471 c801 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend. I give way to my right hon. Friend.
David Winnick | 471 c801 (Link to this contribution) Poland certainly was. It is unfortunate that some hon. Members refuse to accept that fact.
David Winnick | 471 c801 (Link to this contribution) To recognise the advances that have undoubtedly been made in human rights in many parts of Europe, w...
Jack Straw | 471 c801 (Link to this contribution) There is provenance for every one of the rights contained in the charter. [Hon. Members: ““Provenanc...
David Lidington | 471 c801 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman has asserted several times that nothing in the charter of fundamental right...
Jack Straw | 471 c800-1 (Link to this contribution) I will give way later, but I am going to make some progress. I note that the only specific right me...
Richard Shepherd | 471 c805 (Link to this contribution) Will the Lord Chancellor give way?
Jack Straw | 471 c804 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend. I know that he has had the privilege and benefit of attendin...
Jack Straw | 471 c804 (Link to this contribution) The answer—[Interruption.] The answer to my hon. Friend—[Hon. Members: ““She's marvellous!””] I abso...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 471 c804 (Link to this contribution) I have the greatest affection for my right hon. Friend and I always enjoy the sight of him skating v...
Jack Straw | 471 c804 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman bears with me, I shall answer his question in full and at tedious length.
Dominic Grieve | 471 c804 (Link to this contribution) Will the Lord Chancellor confirm that every country that is a member of the European Union is also a...
Jack Straw | 471 c805 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I can, although many of those rights applied in any event. I can also say what the benefit is o...
Ed Davey | 471 c805 (Link to this contribution) Can the Lord Chancellor confirm that the charter applies those rights for the first time to the Euro...
Rob Marris | 471 c804 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that the previous intervention demonstrates the difficulty that we o...
Jack Straw | 471 c804 (Link to this contribution) The benefit of the charter is, as the European Commission said, that it assembles existing rights, w...
James Clappison | 471 c803 (Link to this contribution) The rights that the Secretary of State has described existed long before the charter of fundamental ...
Speaker | 471 c802 (Link to this contribution) Order. Interventions must be brief.
Denis MacShane | 471 c802 (Link to this contribution) As someone with some lineage connected to Poland, let me tell my hon. Friend the Member for Walsall,...
Jack Straw | 471 c802 (Link to this contribution) I give way to my right hon. Friend the Member for Rotherham (Mr. MacShane).
Speaker | 471 c802 (Link to this contribution) I say again that that is not a point of order for the Chair. May we now continue with the debate?
Jack Straw | 471 c803 (Link to this contribution) I said that I would give way to the hon. Gentleman.
Jack Straw | 471 c802-3 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my right hon. Friend. Any obligations to which we sign up, as long as they exist under ...
Speaker | 471 c800 (Link to this contribution) We are debating the motion; we are not yet in Committee.
Jack Straw | 471 c800 (Link to this contribution) I now give way to the hon. Member for Shrewsbury and Atcham (Daniel Kawczynski).
Richard Shepherd | 471 c799 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. I am sorry, but this is just a point of clarification. We...
Jack Straw | 471 c800 (Link to this contribution) I want to make some progress, but I give way to the right hon. Member for Wells (Mr. Heathcoat-Amory...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c800 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman will recall my asking him in a Select Committee about new rights. He assert...
Daniel Kawczynski | 471 c800 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Secretary of State. He stated earlier that eastern European countries have some...
Jack Straw | 471 c800 (Link to this contribution) The history of states in eastern Europe—of course, I bow to the hon. Gentleman's superior knowledge,...
James Clappison | 471 c800 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?
Jack Straw | 471 c800 (Link to this contribution) I shall come on to the issue of those awful foreigners who are trying to impose their will against—[...
Nigel Evans | 471 c798 (Link to this contribution) As regards the European court of fundamental rights, duplication has been suggested. Would it not ha...
Jack Straw | 471 c798 (Link to this contribution) That is a bit of a debating point, but the legal answer to the question is no.
Dominic Grieve | 471 c799 (Link to this contribution) The Lord Chancellor has rapidly touched on the fundamental issue. I agree that the adherence of the ...
Jack Straw | 471 c799 (Link to this contribution) I have to say to the hon. Gentleman that I honestly think that the Opposition are trying to make sil...
John Redwood | 471 c799 (Link to this contribution) We do not disagree with individual rights—we disagree with the legal process which means that they a...
Daniel Kawczynski | 471 c799 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State tried to suggest that the countries of eastern Europe have somehow benefited—...
Speaker | 471 c799 (Link to this contribution) Order. I think that the Secretary of State would wish to respond to the first intervention before ta...
Bob Spink | 471 c797 (Link to this contribution) May I take the right hon. Gentleman back to something that he said a few moments ago? He stated that...
Jack Straw | 471 c797-8 (Link to this contribution) The debate during the 1975 referendum roamed much wider than that; plenty of histories of it have be...
Lord Garnier | 471 c797 (Link to this contribution) We all know about the European convention, whose history the Secretary of State is describing. What ...
Jack Straw | 471 c797 (Link to this contribution) I will refer to that matter in a moment if I am given a chance to do so, as I know I will be.
Jack Straw | 471 c796 (Link to this contribution) It is on the website, but I would be happy to put it in the Library and lay it on the Table as well....
Jack Straw | 471 c798 (Link to this contribution) The problem for the hon. Gentleman is this: a manifesto was put forward by the Conservative party in...
William Cash | 471 c798 (Link to this contribution) How does it advance our democracy, in the terms in which the Secretary of State has put it, to arriv...
Jack Straw | 471 c798 (Link to this contribution) I give way, as I always do in any debate on Europe, to the hon. Gentleman.
Mark Harper | 471 c795 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. Today the Minister for Europe is publishing the Command Paper on p...
Speaker | 471 c795 (Link to this contribution) I think we can manage to get on with the debate. We will manage somehow or other.
Lord Lilley | 471 c795 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. It is, I believe, customary for the Government to put down all doc...
Speaker | 471 c795 (Link to this contribution) As I have said previously on points of order, hon. Members can sometimes call on me to do things tha...
Speaker | 471 c795 (Link to this contribution) I inform the House that I have selected the amendment in the name of the right hon. Member for Richm...
Jack Straw | 471 c796 (Link to this contribution) I have not mentioned those things here. However, I have only just begun my speech, so that is not su...
John Redwood | 471 c796 (Link to this contribution) Does the Secretary of State accept that, over the centuries, it has been this Parliament that has de...
Jack Straw | 471 c795-6 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That this House approves the Government's policy towards the Treaty of Lisbon in resp...
Richard Shepherd | 471 c796 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman did not mention the controversy within the Labour Cabinet over these matter...
Jack Straw | 471 c796 (Link to this contribution) I do not accept that. It was this British Parliament that decided in 1971 to join the European Union...
Jon Cruddas | 471 c847-50 (Link to this contribution) Like the right hon. Member for Wells (Mr. Heathcoat-Amory), I shall focus on the charter of fundamen...
James Clappison | 471 c850-1 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the sincere remarks of the hon. Member for Dagenham (Jon Cruddas), just a...
Richard Bacon | 471 c844 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend made an important point when he said ““fully binding””. Can he confirm that mea...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c844-5 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I can confirm that. If my hon. Friend glances at article 6 of the treaty he will see that the c...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c845-7 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman will forgive me, I am short of time and cannot take too many interventions. We...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c844 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend the Member for Maidenhead (Mrs. May), the shadow Leader of the House, has just ...
Ed Davey | 471 c826 (Link to this contribution) I think that has already happened, so I am rather surprised by the hon. Gentleman's intervention. I...
William Cash | 471 c826 (Link to this contribution) I have heard a great deal this afternoon about there being no new rights. Citizenship of the Union c...
Ed Davey | 471 c826 (Link to this contribution) I look forward to hearing the hon. Gentleman explaining the massively significant difference in his ...
Jon Cruddas | 471 c826 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman not accept that the charter has already had a role in interpreting European ...
Ed Davey | 471 c824-5 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to the hon. Gentleman later. I also think that my previous point applies to democra...
Rob Marris | 471 c825 (Link to this contribution) It could be argued that such bipartisanship as existed finished in about 1996 or 1997, when the Cons...
Ed Davey | 471 c825 (Link to this contribution) I accept the hon. Gentleman's analysis. When Conservative Members eventually determine their positio...
James Clappison | 471 c825 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the hon. Gentleman will answer a question about Liberal Democrat policy. If there were an op...
Ed Davey | 471 c825-6 (Link to this contribution) There is a case for what the hon. Gentleman says. The protocol does not do much. I shall argue that ...
Mark Harper | 471 c826 (Link to this contribution) Given that all those rights supposedly exist already, would it not have been simpler to put them all...
James Clappison | 471 c823 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Ed Davey | 471 c823-4 (Link to this contribution) No, I would like to make some progress. I shall give way to the hon. Gentleman later. I believe tha...
Dominic Grieve | 471 c823 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman started by echoing the Lord Chancellor's rather facile attack when he asked, ““Wh...
Ed Davey | 471 c823 (Link to this contribution) It is a question of both. It is not just about rights or processes—[Hon. Members: ““Both!””] Of cour...
James Clappison | 471 c824 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way on that point?
Ed Davey | 471 c823 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right, except in one regard—the right hon. Member for Wells (Mr. Heathcoat-Amo...
Lord Lilley | 471 c823 (Link to this contribution) Is it now the policy of the hon. Gentleman and his party to be in favour of the unrestricted right o...
Ed Davey | 471 c823 (Link to this contribution) The question is one of process and how we establish the restrictions if there are to be any. We beli...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c823 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has a gift for missing the point, and he has demonstrated it again. The assertion...
Ed Davey | 471 c823 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is the one who is missing the point. Not only is the article he refers to d...
Lord Lilley | 471 c838 (Link to this contribution) I am not certain that that is true. I turned up to those meetings frequently. They were meant primar...
William Cash | 471 c838 (Link to this contribution) I am sure—I cannot believe that the right hon. Member for Rotherham (Mr. MacShane) does not recall t...
James Clappison | 471 c839 (Link to this contribution) Must not that meeting have taken place before the meeting of the European Scrutiny Committee of 7 Ju...
Lord Lilley | 471 c839 (Link to this contribution) Game, set and match, I think, to my hon. Friend.
David Heathcoat-Amory | 471 c840 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is making an extremely effective point. I remind him that the situation will ge...
Lord Lilley | 471 c839-40 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an extremely pertinent point with great crispness, as he has throughout these d...
Jon Trickett | 471 c841 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Hitchin and Harpenden (Mr. Lilley), who made so...
Lord Lilley | 471 c840-1 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes an extremely good point that explains why we should look very carefully a...
Jon Trickett | 471 c842-3 (Link to this contribution) I should like to explore that point in a moment, as ECJ rulings tend to be complex and we need to un...
Baroness Clark of Kilwinning | 471 c842 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that the former Prime Minister probably had little to fear from the interp...
Denis MacShane | 471 c834 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend accept that the German constitution forbids some 1.5 to 2 million civil se...
Jon Trickett | 471 c836 (Link to this contribution) May I draw my right hon. Friend's attention to Tony Blair's speech to the CBI in November 2003, in w...
Michael Meacher | 471 c836 (Link to this contribution) That is indeed quite possible. My hon. Friend makes a very important point.
Jon Cruddas | 471 c836 (Link to this contribution) On the issue of title IV rights versus title II rights, is it not the case, given the protocol, that...
Michael Meacher | 471 c834-6 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my right hon. Friend. I am simply searching for an explanation and it may be that I hav...
Lord Lilley | 471 c838 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Oldham, West and Royton (Mr. Meacher). He made ...
Michael Meacher | 471 c837 (Link to this contribution) It is always helpful to have an exegetist of such immense academic knowledge as my right hon. Friend...
Denis MacShane | 471 c837 (Link to this contribution) ““Flexicurity”” was developed by the Danish social democratic Landsorganisation. It is a term used i...
Michael Meacher | 471 c836-7 (Link to this contribution) I very much agree with what my hon. Friend says, and I am sure that he will pursue it at greater len...
Denis MacShane | 471 c838 (Link to this contribution) Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that during the negotiations on the constitutional treaty—the one ...
William Cash | 471 c833 (Link to this contribution) I accept my right hon. and learned Friend's argument about the à la carte Europe, although I suspect...
Malcolm Rifkind | 471 c832-3 (Link to this contribution) I do not doubt that a choice will have to be made in some areas and that occasionally, with a great ...
William Cash | 471 c833 (Link to this contribution) At least my speeches are not rotten eggs.
Malcolm Rifkind | 471 c833 (Link to this contribution) I have never had any problem with endorsing the curate's egg. It seems to me that the curate was bei...
Denis MacShane | 471 c832 (Link to this contribution) I follow the right hon. and learned Gentleman's argument. How is this different in any way from the ...
Malcolm Rifkind | 471 c830-2 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Elmet (Colin Burgon) made a thoughtful speech. He pointed out the significance o...
Denis MacShane | 471 c832 (Link to this contribution) Let us consider the case of genetically modified organisms. The WTO is moving towards insisting that...
Malcolm Rifkind | 471 c832 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for that point, because there is a fundamental distinction...
Michael Meacher | 471 c834 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. and learned Member for Kensington and Chelsea (Sir Malcolm Rifkind) made, as always, ...
Malcolm Rifkind | 471 c833-4 (Link to this contribution) I can understand my hon. Friend's view on that matter. It does not matter whether we are Euroscepti...
Denis MacShane | 471 c828 (Link to this contribution) I think that the clock that is timing my hon. Friend's speech has been paused. My hon. Friend is mak...
Colin Burgon | 471 c828 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is so persistent that I shall do so.
Colin Burgon | 471 c827-8 (Link to this contribution) Not at this stage. Viking Line is a Finnish ferry company. In 2003, it decided to re-flag its vesse...
Colin Burgon | 471 c827 (Link to this contribution) Although the debate has been fairly wide-ranging, one issue that I do not think we have covered in t...
Ed Davey | 471 c827 (Link to this contribution) Of course people will refer to the document, but then they are forced to explain the underlying sour...
Colin Burgon | 471 c829-30 (Link to this contribution) That is an excellent point. These cases show that the EU is moving towards a policy of undermining w...
Jon Cruddas | 471 c829 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend the Member for Rotherham (Mr. MacShane) mentioned that, where robust legal fram...
Colin Burgon | 471 c829 (Link to this contribution) Thank you. I would welcome the chance to debate the matter; I will come to Rotherham, and we might d...
Bridget Prentice | 471 c868-9 (Link to this contribution) Again, the hon. Gentleman's premise is false. No new rights have been created. Let me say to him, an...
Dominic Grieve | 471 c868 (Link to this contribution) If I may say so, the Minister has not answered the question that she has just been asked. It was a v...
Bridget Prentice | 471 c868 (Link to this contribution) That issue was raised a number of times by Opposition Members, which surprised me, given that the EC...
Bridget Prentice | 471 c867-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. As I was saying, article 51(2) of the charter states:"““Th...
David Gauke | 471 c868 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the Minister will answer a question put to the Lord Chancellor that he did not really addres...
Dominic Grieve | 471 c865-6 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a good point. The situation raises difficulties of interpretation. I am not...
David Heath | 471 c865 (Link to this contribution) Do I understand from what the hon. Gentleman is saying that he now agrees with the point that I have...
Speaker | 471 c867 (Link to this contribution) Order. Conversations are breaking out throughout the Chamber. The House ought to do the Minister the...
Bridget Prentice | 471 c866-7 (Link to this contribution) This has been a fascinating debate, although facile in parts; the hon. Member for Beaconsfield (Mr. ...
William Cash | 471 c866 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that one of the problems that the Government will face is in respect of th...
Michael Connarty | 471 c860 (Link to this contribution) I am very happy to follow the hon. Member for Forest of Dean (Mr. Harper), whom I have not caught sp...
James Clappison | 471 c860 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Michael Connarty | 471 c860-3 (Link to this contribution) No, I am not going to take interventions, because I hope to leave more time for the winding-up speec...
William Cash | 471 c863-4 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak briefly, partly because I do not have much time. I will have an opportunity to say mor...
Dominic Grieve | 471 c864-5 (Link to this contribution) The brevity of my hon. Friend the Member for Stone (Mr. Cash) always comes when he makes those point...
Mark Harper | 471 c857-8 (Link to this contribution) Having listened to the debate and the detailed arguments on both sides, it once again proves exactly...
Denis MacShane | 471 c857 (Link to this contribution) I have taken two interventions and that is my maximum. I sincerely invite my right hon. and hon. Fr...
Dominic Grieve | 471 c855 (Link to this contribution) As the right hon. Gentleman knows, there has been a lot of debate about whether we should have a hom...
Denis MacShane | 471 c855-7 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has a fair theoretical point. In all these debates, I feel at times like William ...
Lord Brady of Altrincham | 471 c854 (Link to this contribution) In saying that we should be bound by the rulings of the European Court of Justice, is not the right ...
Denis MacShane | 471 c854-5 (Link to this contribution) I shall come to the protocol. The Conservative party refuses to come to terms with a fundamental is...
Denis MacShane | 471 c854 (Link to this contribution) Of course I give way to a distinguished former colleague in European affairs.
Denis MacShane | 471 c854 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman cares to examine what John Bright and his great friend Cobden did, he will fin...
William Cash | 471 c854 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely glad that the right hon. Gentleman is going on a historical journey, because I should...
Denis MacShane | 471 c853-4 (Link to this contribution) This has been a good and clarifying debate—Members here are few in number, but there have been high-...
James Clappison | 471 c851-3 (Link to this contribution) It would be a sad day if that were to happen, because the Council of Europe goes much further into E...
Lord Brady of Altrincham | 471 c851 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making some valuable points. Does he agree that the creation of the charter and th...
Jack Straw | 471 c801 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way to both my hon. Friend and my right hon. Friend.
Jack Straw | 471 c798-9 (Link to this contribution) A number of hon. Gentlemen are showing that they wish to intervene. If they will allow me to make so...
Dominic Grieve | 471 c866 (Link to this contribution) I am concerned about the operation of European Court of Justice in this context. It is difficult to ...
Mark Harper | 471 c858-60 (Link to this contribution) In that case, what is the purpose of having this article in the charter? If it will have no effect a...
Denis MacShane | 471 c858 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman should read the past declarations and protocols from Ireland, Poland and other ve...
Jack Straw | 471 c803 (Link to this contribution) Before giving way, let me first make the same argument in the House as I do in discussions in my con...
Jack Straw | 471 c799 (Link to this contribution) I apologise, Madam Deputy Speaker—that was my fault because I indicated that I was ready to accept t...
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