Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford, for his support and for another cautionary tale that he related to good effect. I would remind noble Lords of the very strong language he used. He talked about ““confusion”” and people being ““bullied”” and that it is a ““disgrace””. I think that those words are warranted. I also thank the Minister for her response, in particular for leaving open the door on the second part. In taking away these issues, I wonder whether she would be willing to commit to meeting with the Zaccheus 2000 Trust and Citizens Advice to talk through the possibilities. The question is: if not in this Bill, in which one? It seems that we have an opportunity here and the Minister has shown an openness of mind that perhaps there is a case for clarifying this in law. I hope that the noble Baroness will seriously consider it for this Bill because another opportunity may not come up for some time. In the mean time, we may see other cases of people being bullied or rebuked and very vulnerable citizens being put into difficult situations. I do not think we should delay when we have an opportunity in this Bill. However, given what the Minister has said and the lateness of the hour, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 177DB withdrawn. Clause 82 agreed. Schedule 10 agreed. Amendments 177E to 177G not moved. Clause 83 : Amendment of bail enactments Clause 83 : Amendment of bail enactments Debate on whether Clause 83 should stand part of the Bill.