From the reading the Bill, it is only when two or more are gathered together that they can make such an application. So the noble Lord is quite right. The amendment is seeking assurance that there will be public consultation and consultation with patients. We are told this is all about patients. Can patients therefore be consulted before GPs commit themselves to forming a clinical commissioning group? Or are we just to be told at some stage, ““That’s it, you are in that clinical commissioning group because you are in that practice and you have no choice””. It is remarkably high-handed for it all to be done with no public involvement whatever. It is remarkable how many changes are already being made without any statutory authority given by this legislation.
I want to continue the theme of consultation, because I have a number of amendments in this group which come back to the same point: Amendment 164A in relation to the board’s determination of applications; Amendment 166 in relation to variations in the constitution of clinical commissioning groups; Amendment 166B in respect of variations made in the area covered by a clinical commissioning group, as specified in the constitution; Amendment 167A in respect of mergers, and Amendment 167B as regards the dissolution of clinical commissioning groups.
If I as a patient am part of the clinical commissioning group, one would have thought that I would have a role in deciding whether it is appropriate for that clinical commissioning group to be dissolved, or is that again just for the GPs to decide? What about Amendment 216ZZA as regards commissioning plans? Perhaps I have misread the Bill and there are crucial points which would envisage members of the public and patients within a CCG area being consulted on all these matters.
On the question of parliamentary scrutiny, many of the rules concerning the application to become a clinical commissioning group are to be covered by regulations. I would have thought that, in view of their importance, these ought to be affirmative. Amendments 164B, 166A, 166C and 167C provide for that.
Over and above matters to do with application of parliamentary scrutiny are questions as to what CCGs are actually going to do and how we can ensure that they understand that their responsibility is to provide comprehensive provision to their patients covered by clinical commissioning groups. My Amendment 163 seeks to cover that. Under proposed new Section 14C to be inserted in the 2006 Act, the board must grant an application if it is satisfied as to a series of matters set out in proposed new Section 14C(2). In proposed new Section 14C(2)(e), the board has to be satisfied that a CCG is able to discharge its functions. What functions are these? This takes us back to Clause 10, whose functions on CCGs are dissipated from the functions set out in Section 3 of the NHS Act 2006, which encompass comprehensive revision.
This is vitally important. What are we entitled to as patients from our local clinical commissioning group? This is very important when it comes to any potential rationing by those CCGs in terms of treatments that we can receive. I, for one, prefer the safeguard that is contained in Section 3 of the 2006 Act, unamended, as opposed to the proposals in this Bill.
Amendment 166ZA is concerned with applications to vary the constitution of a clinical commissioning group and asks for the board to determine and publish, after consultation, criteria which Government are granting as a variation to the constitution. It is not unreasonable for us to know under what criteria such a variation may be granted.
My Amendment 167BA makes the same point in respect of the dissolution of a clinical commissioning group. My Amendment 220ZC will also provide for patients covered by a clinical commissioning group to be consulted in any proposed dissolution. Amendment 167D relates to property transfers in the event of a dissolution or variation of the constitution of a CCG and again requires the board to consult before a property transfer can take place. Finally, my Amendment 165 provides that when a clinical commissioning group is granted an application, it is wholly committed to assume the duties under Section 3 of the NHS Act 2006.
Health and Social Care Bill
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Lord Hunt of Kings Heath
(Labour)
in the House of Lords on Wednesday, 30 November 2011.
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