Welfare Reform Bill

What I am trying to explain is that, as I understand the position, they go along to these intermediate work interviews, they are preached at yet again and they do not have to do anything about it. I simply do not believe that this is a practical way in which to go about things. We are clearly not going to be able to take the argument any further today—although I see the Minister has a couple of extra points that he would like to make.