Welfare Reform Bill

We have had two and a half days on Clause 1 and there are still questions to be asked, as both the noble Baroness, Lady Afshar, and the noble Lord, Lord Kirkwood, have pointed out. I have said I do not know how many times during those two and a half days that it all revolves around the personal relationship between the personal adviser and the claimant. With regard to the need for pilots in rural areas, urban areas or wherever, the only guidance we can get is the notice to the providers on the DWP website. That covers virtually the whole country but we do not know, out of that list, where the pilots are going to be. Will there be 10 or 12 pilots?