Marine and Coastal Access Bill [HL]

I am rather less gracious than the noble Lord, Lord Taylor. I thank the Minister for agreeing to take away the reckless issue and for coming back, with any luck, to post-hoc endorse his use of the word "reckless". I am disappointed on the disturbance issue. By dealing with disturbance using by-laws, we are condemning it to a lower penalty level. That means that disturbance will always be subject to those lower levels of penalty. Disturbance can be extremely damaging—particularly to cetaceans and bird life. On defences, the Minister wants to get the balance right. Experience with SSSIs shows that if too many ways out are given, it is made almost impossible to get prosecutions, and the balance is wrong. No doubt, the test of time and lack of cases will reveal that. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment A201 withdrawn. Amendments A202 to A207 not moved. Clause 136 agreed. Clause 137: Exceptions to offences under section 135 or 136 Amendments A208 and A209 not moved.