Marine and Coastal Access Bill [HL]

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. I may have missed a point during earlier discussion but can he indicate the figure for the initial setting-up costs—we all accept those costs are inevitable as regards the MMO—and in which financial years they will be incurred? What is the final financial year in which he anticipates that the MMO set-up costs will still be a cost to the Exchequer? The £4 million to which he referred will presumably be incurred over a relatively short time. It is a one-off payment, not a recurring figure that goes on for ever. There is always a tendency to think that the setting-up costs of new organisations can be built into their budgets for ever and a day. It is very important that that should not happen.