Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill

I was not going to intervene on the amendment, but for the first time in a long time, I was not entirely convinced by what the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, said about refusing to go if the treatment was voluntary. I have had the opportunity of mixing in my own family with people who do this kind of work. They say over and again that the treatment will work only if the person concerned really wants it to work and is committed to it. If they are there because they have been told that they must be there, we can forget it.