Climate Change Bill [HL]

I am grateful to the noble Earl for giving way, but I do not know that he can have been listening to what I was saying. The cost of a forum—goodness gracious—will be infinitesimal compared with delivering this £50 billion or £100 billion result that we want. Does he, if I might put it in the form of a question, not accept that this is going to have an enormous impact on people—that they have got to start to understand and be persuaded to accept when they are at the delivering end?