I am grateful to the Minister for saying that she will do that. That is most helpful. As the noble Baroness, Lady Neuberger, said, this whole issue is about approaching the involvement and consultation exercise in the right spirit and in a real sense, the way that the Government have amended Section 11 is missing the point of patient and public involvement. If the dialogue between local communities and health and social care providers is as it should be, there will be a greater understanding of the constraints under which such services operate—a point made by Wanless in his report—and therefore much more realistic demands from the public. If that relationship is mature, you will not get the NHS overburdened by excessive amounts of trivial consultation. I hope this is an area we can progress between now and Report. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
[Amendments Nos. 242D to 242F not moved.]
Clause 232 agreed to.
Clause 233 [Primary Care Trusts: reports on consultation]:
Local Government and Public Involvement in Health Bill
Proceeding contribution from
Earl Howe
(Conservative)
in the House of Lords on Monday, 23 July 2007.
It occurred during Committee of the Whole House (HL)
and
Debate on bills on Local Government and Public Involvement in Health Bill.
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