This has been an excellent debate. I particularly enjoyed all the talk about longevity and the amount by which it will have increased during the course of the debate—although there have been one or two speeches during which my whole life has flashed before me. I will not say which ones they were.
According to my arithmetic, there have been some 18 Back-Bench speeches, so I apologise to hon. Members if I do not go through them all but pick out one or two that deserve particular mention. My hon. Friend the Member for Hemel Hempstead (Mike Penning) made a powerful speech on behalf of his constituents who are scheme members of the Dexion company and have suffered a great deal. His comments on the ombudsman’s report were extremely just and valid. The hon. Member for Belfast, North (Mr. Dodds) also spoke about the ombudsman’s report and about the failings of the financial assistance scheme.
The Chairman of the Select Committee on Work and Pensions, the hon. Member for Bradford, North (Mr. Rooney), had some valuable thoughts on the White Paper to share with us. As always, the right hon. Member for Birkenhead (Mr. Field) had something distinctive to say. Apparently, he is not signed up to the concept of consensus; in fact, he delivered a substantial broadside against the whole idea. He talked about his concerns over what he called the Chancellor’s IOU and whether it would ever be redeemed for pensioners.
My hon. Friend the Member for Weston-super-Mare (John Penrose) made a fluent speech about the need for durability in the system and the reforms, the problems of complexity and the need for stability. Although the hon. Member for Yeovil (Mr. Laws), the Liberal Democrat spokesman, made some sensible points, I was not quite sure at the end of his speech where his party stands on the consensus-building adventure on which we are all now embarked.
I had the dubious pleasure, as shadow Pensions Minister, of being involved in every Commons stage of what became the Pensions Act 2004. If ever a measure cried out for pre-legislative scrutiny, that was it. But no, the Government drafted the Bill with the minimum of consultation, drove it through with a timetable motion and ignored our regular predictions about the law of unintended consequences. We therefore welcome the fact that the White Paper talks about revisiting the provisions of that Act. I warned at the time that any good that the Government sought to do through the Bill would be overshadowed by the plight of those who had lost pension rights through no fault of their own. My prediction turned out to be true. Nothing has done more to undermine public confidence in the pensions system than the losses felt by those honest, decent people.
In May 2004, facing defeat in the House, the Government cobbled together their financial assistance scheme. We said from the outset that it would be inadequate. None the less, the Government forged ahead, setting up a wholly separate structure in York to administer it. I even recall proposing amendments in Committee that would have set up a parallel mini-pension protection fund, funded by unclaimed assets but administered by the same people as the main PPF. The Government would not have it, however, and one can now see why.
The FAS was to be kept quite separate, as it was always going to pay out much smaller benefits than the PPF. The differences are stark. That is true even with the latest review of eligibility. In a recent Westminster Hall debate, the Minister for Pensions Reform made it clear that only about a third of the 125,000 people affected will benefit from the scheme, even with the extended coverage. At that stage—although the figures may have improved in the intervening few days—a grand total of 93 payments had been made, which, according to my arithmetic, leaves only 39,907 to go. He made the position clear:"““Given the limited amount of money that we had available, it was correct to target it at those closest to retirement””.—[Official Report, Westminster Hall, 20 June 2006; Vol. 447, c. 415WH.]"
Several hon. Members on both sides of the House have explained the unfairnesses that result from those decisions.
It was obvious at the time, and has become ever more obvious since, that the FAS was designed primarily to get the Government over a temporary problem and to assist some Labour Members in marginal seats, with greater or lesser success, of which my hon. Friend the Member for Hemel Hempstead is living proof. Throughout its short life, the emphasis of the FAS seems to have been on limiting eligibility and excluding claims. The novel concept has been introduced of a core pension, with which the hon. Member for Belfast, North dealt in detail. We have heard that FAS payments are not inflation-linked, that they only start at 65 and when wind-up has been concluded, that they are capped at £12,000, and that the entire payment is subject to tax, despite the expected pensions including a tax-free lump sum.
That leads us on to the ombudsman’s report. She made three findings of maladministration against the Government. It is clear that the Government took steps on two separate occasions to weaken the minimum funding requirement. The report quotes the then Secretary of State saying in March 2000:"““As a matter of principle, we believe that when someone loses out because they were given the wrong information by a Department, they are entitled to redress.””—[Official Report, 15 March 2000; Vol. 346, c. 308.]"
Ministers have peddled a figure for the cost of compliance with the ombudsman’s recommendations that is grotesquely misleading. No wonder Lord Turner appeared to back compensation when he gave evidence recently to the Public Administration Committee. We believe that the Government’s position on the report is wholly indefensible.
We have heard much about consensus today. We in the official Opposition have said for a long time that we need political and social consensus if we are to have sustainable long-term pensions reform. Recently, Ministers have been saying the same; even more recently, they have been putting their money where their mouth is, and we welcome that. Why is consensus so important? Because Governments come and go. I do not mean to be gratuitously offensive to the Government Front Bench when I say that Ministers are here today and gone tomorrow. It is good to see the Minister’s distinguished predecessor, the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, the hon. Member for East Ham (Mr. Timms), sitting beside him.
Nothing would be worse for confidence in the system and for long-term saving than an Opposition with the stated intention of unpicking any reforms when they took office. No doubt the Government have taken a hard-headed view and concluded that consensus is a vital underpinning for their reforms—or, as the Secretary of State put it to the Select Committee, something to make pensions reform ““stick””. All credit to him for that.
What, then, does consensus mean? It means that we can seek to reach agreement with the Government on the basis of full information about the various aspects of their proposals. It means supporting the Government when we think they are doing the right thing. How could we do other than that when they are implementing policies from our last manifesto? It means opposing them when they are doing the wrong thing, or doing the right thing in the wrong way.
However, it is also important to understand what consensus does not mean. It does not mean writing any blank cheques, or abdicating our duties as the Opposition to scrutinise the detail and hold the Government to account. That is not least because we expect and hope to be the Government one day, and that day may not be far off. We want to inherit a pensions system that works, or is on the way to being mended. That means that any reforms must pass our six tests.
Pensions Reform
Proceeding contribution from
Nigel Waterson
(Conservative)
in the House of Commons on Tuesday, 27 June 2006.
It occurred during Adjournment debate on Pensions Reform.
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