In view of the number of Members who wish to speak, I will be as brief as possible. I wish to comment on the proposals as they affect women, and to inform the House of a number of matters that were raised with me and with my hon. Friend the Member for Central Ayrshire (Mr. Donohoe) in a consultation that we held with the five seniors forums in South Ayrshire. A number of strong views were expressed, which I shall put forward on behalf of those who aired them. Finally, I shall refer to the situation of people who have lost their pensions; I have been involved in that issue for a considerable time.
There is a great deal of public interest in the whole issue of pensions, and strong views are held. Contrary to what my right hon. Friend the Member for Birkenhead (Mr. Field) said, we have a once in a lifetime opportunity to reach a consensus that can take us forward. But, unlike what happened in the past, that consensus should not be built on the back of women’s unpaid work, nor on their assumed dependence and reliance on men regardless of what their personal circumstances happen to be. That has not served women well in the past, and as we know from all the statistics, it is totally irrelevant in the modern age and for the future.
Women are individuals in their own right, and they should be regarded as such in the pension system. The fact that they still bear the brunt of the nation’s caring responsibilities means that they should be rewarded, not penalised as they are at present. I greatly welcome the fact that that will be addressed as part of the reform process. Younger women will now be able to qualify for a full basic state pension and will have more income in retirement, as well as benefiting from other measures in the reforms, which will help them to plan ahead for their future—which many of them will spend on their own.
There is a general welcome for the core principles of the White Paper; we have heard that from Opposition Members today. However, there is also a need for much more discussion on the detail. Although the proposals will provide a better platform for pension provision in the future, there is a concern, which many Members have expressed in the debate, that the recommendations contain no immediate benefits for today’s pensioners. However, I have been impressed by the uptake of pension credit benefits among my constituents; it has greatly improved many lives, and many pensioners have told me that they have never been better off.
However, my right hon. Friend the Member for Birkenhead is right to say that we need a consensus on the current proposals. Older women—certainly the pensioners that my hon. Friend the Member for Central Ayrshire and I consulted—are concerned about how long it will take to implement some of these measures. They are impatient about the long time scale; they believe that the link with earnings should be restored more quickly, and that that needs to be done sooner rather than later. They cite the fact, as they have often done in my many discussions and consultations with them, that there is a substantial surplus in the national insurance fund that could be used for that purpose. I have never been able to substantiate that in any detail, and I shall be grateful if the Minister for Pensions Reform can make some comments on that this evening, which I can take back to my constituents. There is a frustration about the time scales, and there is a feeling on their part that they are being forgotten in the whole scheme of things.
My constituents recognise that there is a long time scale for raising the retirement age, but they are concerned that as people get older work opportunities become difficult to come by, and health could be affected, depending on the nature of the work involved. They also strongly feel that the rich will be able to retire early because they will have sufficient income, while the poor will be forced to continue working because they will not have sufficient income to retire early. They are also concerned about the current level of pensioner incomes and benefits, particularly as the costs of fuel and council tax are rising. They feel that that is the case now, and that it needs to be addressed now.
The group of pensioners whom we consulted were very pleased with the measures on women and the national pension savings scheme; those were given a warm welcome. But it was thought important that the scheme should be administered at the national level, as employers’ and pension companies’ records in administering pensions are not good; in fact, they are thought to be ““terrible””. That is a direct quote; I am putting forward that opinion on behalf of my constituents—although I am not saying that I particularly disagree with it. They feel that the industry and employers have a terrible record in administering pensions, and that that should be done at the national level, with Government involvement.
That brings me to my final and very important point: the position of those who have lost their pensions. In the case of the people whom I represent, that is substantially due to lack of efficiency on the part of the people administering their occupational pensions. As the Minister knows, I have campaigned with my constituents whose pension funds collapsed—and those former United Engineering Forgings workers have been at the forefront of the campaign on this issue, along with trade unions.
As a result, the Government brought in the financial assistance scheme and the Pension Protection Fund in the Pensions Act 2004. Then, on 25 May, they announced in the White Paper that we are debating today that they will extend the FAS to those who were within 15 years of retirement on 14 May 2004. That will bring the actual pension paid to 80 per cent. for those who were up to seven years from retirement, 65 per cent. for those between seven and 11 years from retirement, and 50 per cent. for those between 11 and 15 years away. To achieve that, the Government are increasing the FAS funding from £400 million over 20 years to £2.3 billion. There is dispute about the actual percentages involved; I have quoted the Government figures. As my hon. Friend the Member for Sunderland, South (Mr. Mullin) said, one of the problems with this whole issue is that different figures are being bandied about by different parties. Some are disputing the Government figures, and we are not getting substantiation, which is leading to those involved becoming further disillusioned.
Pensions Reform
Proceeding contribution from
Sandra Osborne
(Labour)
in the House of Commons on Tuesday, 27 June 2006.
It occurred during Adjournment debate on Pensions Reform.
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