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Leasehold and Freehold Reform Bill

Lords committee stage first day. Clauses 1 to 7 agreed to. Schedule 1, as amended, agreed to. Clauses 8 to 18 agreed to. Schedule 2 agreed to. Clauses 19 to 26 agreed to. Clause 27, as amended, agreed to. Clauses 28 and 29 agreed to. Schedule 3, as amended, agreed to. Clauses 30 to 35 agreed to.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
837 cc1268-1319 
Session
2023-24
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Leasehold and Freehold Reform Bill 2023-24. Brought from the Commons
Wednesday, 28 February 2024
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Taylor of Stevenage | 837 cc1268-1270 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am pleased to start Committee stage of this long-awaited Bill. I understand that it i...

Lord Young of Cookham | 837 cc1270-1 (Link to this contribution)

I want to raise a slightly different point from the one raised by the noble Baroness, who is worr...


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Baroness Pinnock | 837 cc1271-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this Bill is really very important. It has been a long time since Second Reading, so I ...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 cc1272-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it gives me great pleasure to open Committee on the Leasehold and Freehold Reform Bill....

Lord Young of Cookham | 837 c1274 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to my noble friend for that undertaking, but I remind her that the Government ...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 c1274 (Link to this contribution)

I have noted that.

The noble Baronesses, Lady Pinnock and Lady Taylor, and the noble Lord, ...

Baroness Pinnock | 837 c1275 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, she referenced in the early part of her response the number of hou...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 c1275 (Link to this contribution)

I am not prepared to give any ballpark figures from the Dispatch Box, but I will look into it and...

Earl of Devon | 837 c1275 (Link to this contribution)

Just to return to the National Trust exemption, are the Government satisfied that there are no ot...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 c1275 (Link to this contribution)

We have been working with the stakeholders for many months, if not years, on this. If the noble E...

Lord Khan of Burnley | 837 c1275 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Khan of Burnley

5: Schedule 1, page 135, line 19, leave out paragraph 5...

Lord Khan of Burnley | 837 cc1275-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to these probing amendments in the name of my noble friend Lady Taylor of ...

Lord Young of Cookham | 837 cc1276-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 7 in my name, which deals with shared ownership—one of the is...

Baroness Pinnock | 837 c1278 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are two elements of this category of permitted leases that are worthy of further ...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 cc1278-1280 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Taylor of Stevenage, for Amendments 5, 6, 9, 10 and 11...

Lord Young of Cookham | 837 c1280 (Link to this contribution)

I am enormously grateful for the assurances that my noble friend has given. Will the Government r...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 c1281 (Link to this contribution)

I am not aware of the timescale for that, but I will make some inquiries and come back to my nobl...

Lord Khan of Burnley | 837 c1281 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her response to what was a very interesting debate. I always a...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 c1281 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Scott of Bybrook

8: Schedule 1, page 136, line 10, leave out from “...

Baroness Taylor of Stevenage | 837 c1281 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Taylor of Stevenage

12: After Clause 25, insert following new Claus...

Baroness Taylor of Stevenage | 837 cc1282-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, just before I move my amendment, I should say that I omitted to thank the Minister for ...

Lord Bailey of Paddington | 837 cc1283-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Taylor of Stevenage. I do not want ...

Baroness Pinnock | 837 c1284 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we on these Benches far prefer a move to commonhold. The journey towards commonhold is ...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 cc1284-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Taylor of Stevenage, and my noble friend Lord Bailey o...

Baroness Taylor of Stevenage | 837 c1285 (Link to this contribution)

I will ask for some clarification, then. The policy was originally announced in 2017. The Law Com...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 cc1285-6 (Link to this contribution)

I reiterate that the Government remain absolutely committed to widespread take-up of commonhold f...

Lord Bailey of Paddington | 837 c1286 (Link to this contribution)

Can my noble friend the Minister let me know how many of the 121 recommendations that the Law Com...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 c1286 (Link to this contribution)

All I can say to my noble friend is that that is exactly what the Government are working on and t...

Baroness Taylor of Stevenage | 837 c1286 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in the debate. I found it a bit of a frustrating deba...

Baroness Pinnock | 837 c1287 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Pinnock

13: After Clause 25, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Pinnock | 837 cc1287-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment is on commonhold. I was pleased to hear the Minister emphasise that the ...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 837 cc1289-1291 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to my Amendment 14. First, I apologise that I was away for Second Reading...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 837 cc1291-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not have an amendment in this group, but it is almost therapeutic when your Lordsh...

Lord Young of Cookham | 837 cc1292-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will make a brief intervention to support the thinking behind Amendment 14, in the na...

Earl of Devon | 837 c1293 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too was unable to speak at Second Reading, and I apologise for that. However, I was a...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 837 cc1294-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a number of interests to declare: first, as a leaseholder, secondly, as chair of...

Earl of Lytton | 837 cc1295-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree fundamentally with the point made by the noble Baroness, Lady Taylor of Stevena...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 837 c1297 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I forgot to mention earlier how much I support the noble Lord, Lord Young of Cookham. I...

Lord Khan of Burnley | 837 cc1297-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Pinnock, for introducing this group of amendments. It ...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 cc1299-1301 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 13 concerns the conversion of existing leasehold buildings to commonhold. I t...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 837 cc1301-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I forgot to declare my interest as a leaseholder. I feel as though I might have to decl...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 c1302 (Link to this contribution)

My response to the noble Earl, Lord Devon, was a response on commonhold. My response to the noble...

Lord Bailey of Paddington | 837 c1302 (Link to this contribution)

Maybe my noble friend the Minister can give us some detail on the Government’s new-found support ...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 c1302 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for that. As I have said, we are working on it, we are working on further...

Lord Khan of Burnley | 837 c1302 (Link to this contribution)

If I can just probe the Minister on the answer she gave me, that the Commonhold Council met in Se...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 c1302 (Link to this contribution)

I do not have that detail with me, but I will make sure the noble Lord gets it.

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 837 c1302 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister tell the Committee whether the Government have a strategy for commonhold?

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 c1302 (Link to this contribution)

Yes. The noble Lord knows, and I have said it enough times at this Dispatch Box, that the Governm...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 837 c1302 (Link to this contribution)

It is good to hear that they have a strategy; maybe the Minister can explain to the Committee wha...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 837 c1303 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but I asked a couple of questions there and I am hoping for a response.

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 c1303 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but I have made it very clear that the Government are fully in support. I am trying t...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 837 c1303 (Link to this contribution)

But we are not, are we? That is the whole point. We are not getting anywhere, just making commitm...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 c1303 (Link to this contribution)

Working on getting towards commonhold, which is what the Government want for this sector.

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 837 c1303 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness will obviously know this really well, then: how many more years do we need bef...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 c1303 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think I have anything further to add.

Baroness Pinnock | 837 c1303 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the purpose of Amendment 13 in my name was to encourage a debate on commonhold and the ...

Baroness Pinnock | 837 cc1303-4 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that that was a legislative proposal—I was very careful in the words I used. What ...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 c1304 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Scott of Bybrook

16: Clause 27, page 18, line 8, at end insert—

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Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 cc1304-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, to be clear, the Bill already removes the automatic 12-month bar on leaseholders that s...

Baroness Taylor of Stevenage | 837 cc1305-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, our Amendment 17 would enable the Secretary of State—or, in Wales, Welsh Ministers—to c...

Lord Sandhurst | 837 cc1306-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 17A. I am sorry that I was unable to speak at Second Reading...

Bishop of Derby | 837 cc1307-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak in support of my right reverend friend the Bishop of Manchester, who is un...

Lord Thurlow | 837 cc1308-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I turn to my Amendment 18 in this group. I begin by declaring my interests as both the ...

Lord Truscott | 837 cc1309-1311 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest as a long-standing leaseholder of some 30 years. I have been a le...

Earl of Lytton | 837 cc1311-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to this group, as the noble Lord, Lord Truscott, mentioned my name, althou...

Baroness Thornhill | 837 cc1312-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is my first intervention today—I spoke at Second Reading. I regret that this is ye...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 837 c1313 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the descriptions that have been put forward—the right reverend Prelate described these ...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 837 cc1313-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for their contributions, and I start by thanking especially the...

Lord Gascoigne | 837 c1317 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Gascoigne

19: Schedule 3, page 151, line 13, at end insert—

“(ea)...

Lord Gascoigne | 837 cc1317-1320 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I start, I declare that my wife is an employee at the Crown Estate, as set out i...

Lord Khan of Burnley | 837 c1319 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my fellow east Lancastrian, the Minister, for introducing these technical, tidying-up and...

Lord Gascoigne | 837 c1319 (Link to this contribution)

I have spoken ad nauseam about many of these amendments. I too thank my long-lost brother from ea...

Lord Gascoigne | 837 c1319 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Gascoigne

20: Schedule 3, page 152, line 17, leave out paragraph (f)

Notes
Welsh legislative consent sought.
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