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Victims and Prisoners Bill

Lords committee stage sixth day. Clauses 39 to 42 agreed to. Schedule agreed to. Clauses 43 to 47 agreed to.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
836 cc813-880 
Session
2023-24
Department
Ministry of Justice
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Proceeding contributions
Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 836 cc813-4 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

133: After Clause 38, insert the following new Cl...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 836 cc814-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there is an urgent need to introduce the duty of candour for those operating across pub...


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Bishop of Manchester | 836 cc815-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to this amendment to which I have added my name. I declare my interest ...

Baroness Brinton | 836 cc816-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have signed the amendment and it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Ponsonb...

Lord Bellamy | 836 cc817-820 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Ponsonby, and all noble Lords who have spoken to this amen...

Baroness Brinton | 836 c820 (Link to this contribution)

It is good to see the Minister back in his place; we are pleased to have him back and I am very g...

Lord Bellamy | 836 c820 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, the Government recognise that up to a point. What we are discussing is the right way to get ...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 836 c820 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this short debate. The noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, s...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 836 c821 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

133A: Clause 40, page 37, line 15, after “must,” ...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 836 c821 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too have signed Amendment 133A, which is a probing amendment and states that the Secr...

Baroness Brinton | 836 cc821-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start by recognising that one of the people who wanted to speak to this amendment is ...

Baroness Featherstone | 836 cc824-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for not having been in the Chamber at Second Reading.

Thousands of pe...

Baroness Campbell of Surbiton | 836 cc825-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I begin, I too pay tribute to the late Lord Cormack. He was a consummate parliam...

Baroness Meacher | 836 c827 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I express my strongest possible support for all the amendments in this group. I congrat...

Lord Bichard | 836 cc827-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too speak in support of Amendment 134. I have to apologise, for I am afraid I was una...

Lord Owen | 836 cc828-830 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, 1975 was a long time ago. I am getting on in age now, and I wondered if I would ever se...

Lord Horam | 836 c829 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Committee listened with great interest to the remarks of the noble Lord, Lord Owen,...

Baroness Altmann | 836 c829 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise to the Committee that I was not available to speak at Second Reading. I had...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 836 cc831-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group of probing amendments, which have the aim of ensuring decent and necessary p...

Earl Howe | 836 cc832-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in arriving, as we now have, at Part 3 of the Bill, I should like to begin by thanking ...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 836 c835 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister mentioned that there will be government amendments on Report to address the deficien...

Earl Howe | 836 c835 (Link to this contribution)

I anticipate using every opportunity available to engage with noble Lords on not only what the am...

Baroness Meacher | 836 c835 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for interrupting the Minister. He referred to the payment of £100,000 to a lot of peo...

Earl Howe | 836 cc835-6 (Link to this contribution)

I perfectly understand the noble Baroness’s strength of feeling on this long-standing scandal. It...

Baroness Brinton | 836 c836 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, I would like to ask him a couple of questions. I am grateful to my...

Earl Howe | 836 c836 (Link to this contribution)

On the noble Baroness’s latter point, I hope to have extensive discussions with noble Lords about...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 836 cc836-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been an important debate. In fact, I go further: it has been a historic debate...

Baroness Brinton | 836 cc837-8 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Brinton

135: After Clause 40, insert the following new Clause—

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Baroness Brinton | 836 cc838-840 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I tabled Amendment 135 some weeks ago, after there seemed to be some difference in timi...

Baroness Thornton | 836 c841 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was pleased to put my name and that of my noble friend to this amendment. The noble B...

Earl Howe | 836 cc841-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, for her amendment, which, as she exp...

Baroness Brinton | 836 c842 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for his response. As ever, it was thoughtful and very helpful.

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Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 836 c842 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

136: After Clause 40, insert the following new Cl...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 836 cc842-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a probing amendment to enable debate on the concept of a new national oversight...

Baroness Brinton | 836 c845 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am really grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Ponsonby, for raising this issue and layin...

Lord Roborough | 836 cc845-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Ponsonby, for this amendment and the noble Baroness, Lady ...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 836 cc846-7 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this very brief debate. I want to pick up a point made...

Lord Burnett of Maldon | 836 c847 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Burnett of Maldon

137: Clause 41, page 39, line 26, leave out from seco...

Lord Burnett of Maldon | 836 cc847-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the absence of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd, who is abroad at...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 836 cc848-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree with every word uttered by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Burnett of Maldon. ...

Lord Bach | 836 c849 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, briefly, I support the amendments moved and spoken to in this group by the noble and le...

Baroness Hamwee | 836 c849 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak with the leave of the Committee and with many apologies; I was delayed in ...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 836 cc849-850 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we also support this group of amendments. I want to reiterate the points made by my nob...

Lord Bellamy | 836 cc850-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendments proposed by the noble and learned Lords, Lord Burnett and Lord Thomas of...

Baroness Hamwee | 836 c851 (Link to this contribution)

Could I follow that up before the Minister goes on to the next point? Does he anticipate that the...

Lord Bellamy | 836 c851 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hear what the noble Baroness says, and it sounds entirely reasonable. I cannot, at th...

Lord Burnett of Maldon | 836 c851 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his response. It is a delight to see him back in his place. I also thank...

Baroness Thornton | 836 cc852-3 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Thornton

148A: After Clause 47, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Thornton | 836 cc853-4 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to move Amendment 148A and speak to Amendment 148B. I thank the noble Lord...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 836 cc854-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was happy to put my name to these to these two amendments, and I am equally happy tha...

Baroness Brinton | 836 cc855-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have signed Amendments 148A and 148B in this group. I thank the noble Baroness, Lady ...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 836 cc856-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendments 148A and 148B. I am late to participate in this Bill, for which I ...

Baroness Newlove | 836 cc859-860 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support these amendments, and I am so glad that the noble Baroness, Lady Royall, is b...

Lord Roborough | 836 cc860-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton, for her amendment relating to Multi Agency P...

Baroness Thornton | 836 c862 (Link to this contribution)

Why does the Minister think we tabled these amendments?

Lord Roborough | 836 c862 (Link to this contribution)

I think I understand the point of the amendments, which is the belief that stalking and domestic ...

Baroness Thornton | 836 cc862-3 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for the detail he has gone into. I am not making fun of him; I am genuinely ...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 836 c863 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

148C: After Clause 47, insert the following new C...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 836 cc863-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg to move Amendment 148C. I want to speak more widely than the previous group and b...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 836 cc864-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to put my name to this amendment, because it is a continuation of the them...

Baroness Brinton | 836 c865 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have also signed Amendment 148C and thank the noble Lord, Lord Ponsonby, for introduc...

Lord Coaker | 836 cc866-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for not having contributed to debates on the Bill as it has gone through it...

Baroness Hamwee | 836 c867 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, might like to know that, in evidence that the Justice and ...

Baroness Newlove | 836 cc867-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment is important. As someone who knows first-hand what it is like to gather ...

Lord Roborough | 836 cc868-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Ponsonby, for his amendment regarding the Multi Agency Pub...

Lord Coaker | 836 c869 (Link to this contribution)

The amendment in the names of the noble Lords, Lord Ponsonby and Lord Russell, and the noble Baro...

Lord Roborough | 836 c870 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for his comments, and for his comments earlier. Everyone in this Committee...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 836 c870 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that is a very helpful comment from the Minister—I apologise for not having intervened ...

Lord Roborough | 836 c870 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord makes a good point. Hardly a piece of legislation goes through this House where th...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 836 c870 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a useful debate because it has been focused on the effectiveness of MAPPA...

Baroness Brinton | 836 cc870-1 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Brinton

148D: After Clause 47, insert the following new Clause—

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Baroness Brinton | 836 cc871-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we now turn to the perpetrators of child sexual abuse. I have tabled Amendment 148D, wh...

Baroness Thornton | 836 c872 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not need to add much to the words of the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, because she...

Earl Howe | 836 cc872-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, for this amendment, which, as sh...

Baroness Brinton | 836 c873 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the Minister and I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton. I am very grate...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 836 c873 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Fox of Buckley

148E: After Clause 47, insert the following new Clau...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 836 cc875-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I dedicate this speech to Lord Cormack because, the last time I spoke to him, we discus...

Baroness Brinton | 836 cc876-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Fox, started her speech by talking about sex offenders changin...

Baroness Thornton | 836 c878 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I echo the worry of the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, about this, partly exactly becaus...

Earl Howe | 836 cc879-880 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Fox, for explaining the background to her ame...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 836 c880 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for the responses I have received. I will take what the Minister ha...

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Welsh Legislative Consent sought.
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