Safety of Rwanda (Asylum and Immigration) Bill
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My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, will be taking part remotely. I remind the Committee ...
Moved by
Lord Scriven
18: Clause 2, page 2, line 33, leave out “Every decision-maker ...
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My Lords, as we enter day two and the world of fantasy and fiction on the Bill, which is based on...
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Scriven, who introduced the amendments ...
My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 70, 73 and 85. I support the other amendments in this group....
My Lords, I am sorry that the noble Lord, Lord German, could not move the amendment in his name. ...
Before the noble Lord sits down, can he answer a question? Under Home Office figures, 78% of thos...
She will be deterred because the Bill is designed to send people to Rwanda, with a very narrow ar...
My Lords, it is extremely difficult to debate anything in the Bill if the only answer of those wh...
My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 75 in this group, which is in my name and supported by the...
My Lords, I support Amendment 75, to which I have added my name. In order not to try the patience...
My Lords, no one could disagree with a word of that. I of course support the amendment from the n...
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee. I support Amendment 75, whi...
My Lords, it is always a privilege to follow the noble Lord, Lord Alton, with his decades of huma...
It has indeed been a remarkable debate, as the noble Baroness says. Her own contribution maintain...
My Lords, I am grateful to all those supporting Amendment 75 and for the speeches on it. I am fur...
My Lords, I apologise to the Committee for not being present at Second Reading. I am afraid that ...
My Lords, I will speak briefly about Amendment 75, which the noble Lord, Lord Browne of Ladyton, ...
I want to pick up on three quick points before the Minister replies. First, on Amendment 75, I en...
The noble Lord referred to Human Rights Watch. I assume that he has read its report on 2022, whic...
I share the noble Baroness’s concerns about Rwanda because there are many areas about which we ca...
I would not want the noble Lord to proceed on the basis of believing that the JCHR, for instance,...
I respect enormously what the noble Lord says. I would just push back slightly. The RPF and Kagam...
My Lords, the power of this debate has been absolutely extraordinary. I think the House very much...
My Lords, Mary is 19; she is in Gezira, in Sudan, just by the Ethiopian border. She has been offe...
My Lords, in this Bill we are discussing many of the same issues we discussed during the passage ...
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this very thoughtful debate. I reassure ...
I feel I have to point out to the Minister facts which I took for granted, because they had instr...
I take the noble Lord’s point, and I deeply regret any errors that were made in regard to these p...
I will reinforce the point that the noble Lord, Lord Browne, has made and I am grateful to the Mi...
My Lords, I am not sure whether I picked up in the Minister’s response that he included the cohor...
Regarding the applications to the ARAP scheme, clearly, I am not qualified to comment on individu...
This is the point I made at Second Reading. Section 22 of the Illegal Migration Act disapplies al...
My Lords, I will repeat the point: the first responders will be expected to refer individuals int...
I am still waiting on the letter. Section 22 of the Illegal Migration Act, on modern slavery, dis...
I repeat the points that I have made. I will write the letter to the noble Lord. I have the infor...
The Minister cannot get away with this. This is a clear issue of an amendment that has been put s...
My Lords, I will go into the detail that I have on what happens when someone arrives illegally an...
On that point, those of us who raised the question about morality agree with all the Minister sai...
I thank my noble friend for that and will of course make sure that he is copied in to the letter....
I have a specific question to ask. I do not doubt the Minister’s motives or morality; I think tha...
Based on the information that I have available to me here, the answer to that is yes. However, I ...
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for contributing to what has been a very powerful and at times ...
Moved by
Lord Anderson of Ipswich
19: Clause 2, page 2, line 33, leave out “conclusiv...
My Lords, I rise in place of the noble Lord, Lord Carlile, to speak to Amendments 19, 21, 25 and ...
My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Anderson, who has put his case with the precision and su...
My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 30 in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Cashman and th...
My Lords, I too have added my name to this amendment, and I declare an interest as a patron of Re...
My Lords, I support these amendments, which seem to me to go to the heart of the most extraordina...
My Lords, my right reverend friend the Bishop of Manchester regrets that he cannot be here today ...
My Lords, every time in this Committee you think that the Government cannot be more flattened tha...
My Lords, I hope the Committee accepts that I rarely intervene when the lawyers are at it, becaus...
My Lords, I will be very brief. I endorse the speech by the noble Lord, Lord Deben. I want to que...
My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 22, 37 and 42 in the name of my noble friend Lord German, t...
My Lords, I rise briefly to support the amendments in this group, which seem eminently sensible—t...
My Lords, I support the case put by the noble Lord, Lord Cashman, and ask about a current torture...
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the expert contribution of the noble Lord, Lord McDonald. I ...
My Lords, my noble friend Lord Clarke asked whether there was any precedent for the kind of legis...
My Lords, perhaps it is only the House of Lords that when asked to find a precedent can refer bac...
Once the cook was dead.
The Government are asking us to be the perpetual judge of the legislation and actions of another ...
I thank the noble Lord for giving way. I want to add to his experience that, the minute I had vis...
I am grateful to the noble Baroness. The Minister might see two examples and ask when it becomes ...
My Lords, I will make a brief postscript to the very powerful interventions that have been made b...
The noble Lord is an expert in these areas. If the Bill goes through, what is his estimate of how...
I do not think that anybody has any idea of the answer to that. That is one of the difficulties. ...
My Lords, I also pay tribute to the quality of the contributions that we have had from so many no...
My Lords, it is customary on these occasions to thank all noble Lords directly for their contribu...
Is the Minister saying that the quote of the Prime Minister’s words is not accurate?
I certainly was not. I was saying that, when the noble Lord quoted, or referred to the content of...
My Lords, the Minister has raised a really important point concerning the treaty. Clause 2(4) sta...
My Lords, the policy of the Bill is to respond to the United Kingdom Supreme Court’s decision in ...
These were findings that related to a period of time. The Government are saying that that period ...
My Lords, the point of the principle of the Bill is to remove the matter from the consideration o...
What are the mechanisms —since, as my noble friend Lord Scriven said, the courts are no longer ab...
First, I remind the noble Lord of some of the constitutional truths that were adverted to in the ...
I am fascinated by this new “court of Parliament” concept. Anyone who thinks that the Age of Reas...
My Lords, before the Minister answers the question, this is a rather unusual court, because it is...
First, as the noble and learned Lord is perfectly well aware, the Bill blocks the possibility of ...
Not on the theory point but on the practical point of what the Bill states, can the Minister just...
As I said to the noble Lord when first responding to him, I will address those matters in more de...
I just remind the noble and learned Lord that he said he would return to the temporal issue of ho...
My Lords, the noble Baroness’s point echoes the one made by the noble Lord, Lord Purvis of Tweed....
If the arrangements in the treaty are not in place, that would be specific to the individual, yet...
The only thing relevant to an individual case would be matters specific to the individual.
...
Surely we come back to the point about temporality, which a number of noble Lords have raised. Su...
My Lords, that would depend entirely on the case presented by the individual.
I thank the n...
Is the Minister going on to another point? I did ask some specific questions.
I am of course ready to take specific questions that the noble Baroness develops, but it was not ...
Is the Minister going to answer my questions?
My Lords, as I have said several times during this debate, at this and other stages, it is the Go...
There is no obligation on the monitoring committee to publish its report, so how will we know wha...
My Lords, as I said to the noble Lord, this matter is to be dealt with in further groupings. In t...
The amendment has two parts. One was the about treatment of asylum seekers in Rwanda and that the...
My Lords, I cannot answer the noble Baroness’s question about why those statistics are not kept. ...
I have not taken part in this debate—I came in only earlier this afternoon—but on this I have som...
My Lords, I am reminded that Article 13 of the treaty makes the specific provision:
“Rwanda...
I could well have missed it when I read the treaty, but the quotation the Minister has given talk...
My Lords, all relocated individuals will receive protection appropriate to them and assistance ac...
My Lords, it was once the practice of our courts to prevent the jury from dining until they had r...
Moved by
Lord Scriven
31: Clause 2, page 3, line 13, leave out subsection (5)
M...
My Lords, I am again a poor substitute for my noble friend Lord German. This group is a suite of ...
My Lords, I will speak to my Amendment 33 to Clause 2. I acknowledge the support of the right rev...
My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Kirkhope of Harrogate, who was, o...
My Lords, I rise to speak briefly to the generality of Clause 3. I signed the notice opposing Cla...
My Lords, it is a privilege to follow the noble Viscount—probably inadequately. I added my name t...
The noble Baroness appears to suggest that, because the Bill disapplies Section 6, local authorit...
I am sorry, but I was only quoting—I know it was a majority vote and that the noble Lord did not ...
My Lords, I support Amendment 33 from the noble Lord, Lord Kirkhope of Harrogate, to which I am a...
My Lords, I shall speak in qualified support of Amendment 33, but before I do so I should say tha...
Does the noble Lord share the concern, that I and various committees of your Lordships’ House hav...
On the noble Baroness’s first question, I agree with the sentiments that she expressed earlier.
My Lords, all of us lawyers can tell war stories about cases that we have been involved in or tha...
My Lords, I took it that the noble Baroness was asking me a question from the way she started—no,...
I rise with great humbleness to intervene at this point. I was planning to refer to the noble Bar...
My Lords, I remember as a young boy walking with my father in a town. We passed a building which ...
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord from Suffolk. The most reverend Primate the A...
My Lords, I am absolutely not entitled to speak on the Human Rights Act, but I found that the arg...
My Lords, I have found this group of amendments very interesting and I am grateful to the noble L...
My Lords, I am afraid that this will be a more prosaic and lawyerly contribution than the two we ...
My Lords, I will briefly address the point raised by my noble friend Lady Lawlor. The Conservativ...
Let me finish. It is also finally worth remembering that the one Conservative Prime Minister sinc...
My Lords, I thank my noble friend for saying I could hold on. My remarks were related to what was...
I understand the point the noble Baroness is making; it is a very valid point. But what deduction...
My Lords, tempted though I am to engage with the noble Lord, Lord Kerr, on that very interesting ...
I will give way to the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti, in a second. The very idea that, in some...
I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. I am intervening because he referred to something...
I find it a little odd for the noble Baroness to say that she is criticising the Government for d...
I am sorry, but as I listened to the noble Lord, I was getting the impression that he was agreein...
I am afraid that the amendment still has no purpose. The point is, as I hope I demonstrated to yo...
My Lords, this group of amendments focuses on Clause 3 and demonstrates the threat to the domesti...
My Lords, as always, I am grateful to noble Lords who contributed to the debate on this group and...
The noble and learned Lord’s noble friend is just trying to speed up parliamentary consideration ...
Given how well the declaration of compatibility procedure is working and has worked in the past, ...
My Lords, I am sorry to prolong matters, but I asked an explicit question about Northern Ireland....
I beg the noble Baroness’s pardon for seeming to ignore her contribution. I was at fault. I touch...
My Lords, I thank the Minister for his responses, which are always courteous and detailed. Howeve...
Moved by
Lord Scriven
35: After Clause 2, insert the following new Clause—
“App...
My Lords, because of the lateness of the hour, I will speak to this suite of important amendments...
My Lords, just to be clear, I will be very “Committeeish” about this group of amendments. In the ...
My Lords, I speak to Amendment 74 in my name in this group and associate myself with all the ques...
My Lords, the noble Lord is completely right on his numbers; migration is about 10 times, sometim...
I am grateful to the noble Lord and, to some extent, I agree with him. If we have a legal migrati...
My Lords, I will introduce my Amendments 81 and 82 in this group, which I have the privilege of s...
I am most grateful to the noble Baroness and entirely agree with what she has said on Amendment 8...
My Lords, I strongly support my noble friend Lady Chakrabarti’s amendment, as amended by that of ...
My Lords, aware of the hour, I rise very briefly, having attached my name to Amendment 81 in the ...
My Lords, I also note the Clock and I will make points on the two headings. The first is on Amend...
No. The noble Lord has misunderstood my argument. You are in this country before the Act. You hav...
A very good touchstone of when lawyers realise that—if I may respectfully say—the argument does n...
The person who would have a right to asylum in the UK under this Bill would no longer have the ri...
Will the noble Lord explain why if I come here and am entitled to asylum that is not a right?
...The right is to make a claim for asylum. That is the vested right absolutely. The right is the ri...
It does not work if the noble Lord shouts at me when he is sitting down. I am happy to give way. ...
A right to have possession of my property requires me to go to court and get it. It is still a ri...
I am sorry; that is totally different, because the courts—I will give way to the noble Baroness.<...
I think we have got to the heart of this. I am concerned about the time, not just for Members of ...
Of course they are rights that have been recognised for a very long time, but that was not the po...