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Public Order Bill

Lords committee stage third day. Clauses 19 to 35 agreed to. Bill reported with amendments (HL Bill 82).
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
826 cc595-650 
Session
2022-23
Department
Home Office
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Public Order Bill 2022-23. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 19 October 2022
Bills
House of Lords
Public Order Bill. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee seventeenth report.
Thursday, 3 November 2022
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Public Order Bill 2022-23. As amended in Committee.
Tuesday, 13 December 2022
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2023-0010
Tuesday, 10 January 2023
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Paddick | 826 cc595-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with the leave of the Committee, we told the Government Whips that I was going to inter...

Baroness Boycott | 826 c596 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Boycott

117: After Clause 18, insert the following new Clause—

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Baroness Boycott | 826 cc596-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to move Amendment 117 and very grateful to be standing alongside the noble Barones...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 826 cc597-600 (Link to this contribution)

The Committee will imagine the daunting privilege of attempting to follow that speech from one of...

Lord Deben | 826 cc600-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest as chair of the Environment and Climate Change Committee. I want ...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 826 cc601-2 (Link to this contribution)

What great speeches; I am almost embarrassed to follow them. I support Amendments 117 and 127A. I...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 826 c602 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if I had to choose between the two amendments, I would choose Amendment 127A. It is qui...

Viscount Colville of Culross | 826 cc602-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest as a series producer making a television series on Ukraine.

Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean | 826 c603 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I had no intention of speaking on this amendment, but I feel I must, because my late hu...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 826 cc603-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the speech from the noble Baroness, Lady Boycott, really was excellent, and I hope it g...

Lord Faulks | 826 cc604-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have been following this Bill carefully but have not been able to take an active part...

Lord Paddick | 826 cc605-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we wholeheartedly support Amendment 117 in the name of the noble Baronesses, Lady Chakr...

Lord Coaker | 826 cc606-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a privilege to speak to these important amendments in the name of the noble Baron...

Lord Paddick | 826 c608 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister responds, I have to say that, while I do not often take issue with the noble ...

Lord Coaker | 826 c608 (Link to this contribution)

I will respond to the noble Lord. If I, in any way, gave the impression that I underestimated the...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 826 cc608-610 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I begin responding to the debate, I start by thanking the noble Lord, Lord Paddi...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 826 c609 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, and with my real thanks for the sentiment that he expressed, does ...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 826 c609 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the noble Baroness that I do not agree with the proposition she just outlined from s...

Lord Deben | 826 cc609-611 (Link to this contribution)

Before my noble friend sits down, the fact is that what he says is true, but something has happen...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 826 c611 (Link to this contribution)

I have to say to my noble friend: I hope I was not giving the impression that I was saying that i...

Lord Paddick | 826 c611 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister confirm that neither in his remarks nor apparently from what he said was the re...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 826 c611 (Link to this contribution)

Obviously, I defer to the noble Lord’s expertise on matters custodial, but—I am flying solo a lit...

Lord Coaker | 826 c611 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord not realise how disappointing his response is in many ways? As the noble Lord...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 826 c611 (Link to this contribution)

Very briefly, what concerns me about this—well, lots of things concern me—is that the police, inc...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 826 c612 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in answer to the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, I am getting a strong sense of how disappoint...

Baroness Boycott | 826 cc612-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply to all the wonderful speeches, and I thank many nobl...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 826 c613 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb

118: After Clause 18, insert the following new...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 826 c613 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was very excited when I saw this grouping: I thought that I had got my own group to m...

Lord Paddick | 826 cc613-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is difficult to argue with the point made by the noble Baroness, Lady Jones of Mouls...

Lord Coaker | 826 cc614-5 (Link to this contribution)

Before I forget, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, for signing Amendment 127, which deals spe...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 826 cc615-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords. The public order measures in the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 20...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 826 c616 (Link to this contribution)

Did the advice’s definition of “discomfort” really use the word “man”, so it does not apply to wo...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 826 c616 (Link to this contribution)

I was quoting from the Law Commission’s written evidence, which referred to the

“standards ...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 826 c616 (Link to this contribution)

I suggest that legal sources need to brush up on equality these days—that is ridiculous.

Wi...

Lord Coaker | 826 cc616-7 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Coaker

126: After Clause 18, insert the following new Clause—

“Co...

Lord Coaker | 826 cc617-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I emphasise my Amendment 126 in this group, which probes the need for public order poli...

Lord Rooker | 826 cc618-622 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, for the avoidance of doubt, I say to the Minister that I will not be deviating into pol...

Baroness Meacher | 826 cc620-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 142A from the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, and his Clause 30 stand part...

Lord Beith | 826 c623 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, has done a service to the House in focusing such clear att...

Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd | 826 cc623-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to make one or two brief observations in respect of the way these amendments tie...

Lord Paddick | 826 cc624-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we support Amendments 126 and 144 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Coaker. As recomm...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 826 cc626-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for the amendments in this group. I turn first to Amendment 126, wh...

Lord Paddick | 826 cc627-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt the Minister and am grateful to him for giving way. I have seen evidence ...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 826 cc628-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that I do not know the answer. I will write to the noble Lord with the detail. Regard...

Lord Coaker | 826 c629 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the last remark the Minister made, about writing to my noble friend Lord Rooker, was us...

Lord Paddick | 826 cc629-630 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Paddick

128: Clause 19, page 22, line 8, leave out “on the balance of p...

Lord Paddick | 826 cc630-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 128 is in my name, supported by the noble Lord, Lord Skidelsky, the noble Bar...

Lord Skidelsky | 826 c632 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I enthusiastically support the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Paddick.

I...

Lord Anderson of Ipswich | 826 cc632-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I gladly put my name to the stand part amendments on Clauses 19 and 20, which of course...

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 826 cc634-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, at this late hour, I will say just a very few words. I start, rather tiresomely, with a...

Bishop of Chelmsford | 826 c635 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I intend to be brief, but I wanted to speak in favour of Amendments 128, 129 and 130, a...

Baroness Blower | 826 cc635-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Chelmsford. Noble L...

Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd | 826 cc636-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I entirely support the analysis so eloquently made by the noble Lord, Lord Anderson of ...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 826 c637 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have not been present for earlier proceedings on this Bill because of other commitmen...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 826 cc637-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare a historical if not a current interest as a Home Office lawyer from January 1...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 826 cc638-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I open by echoing what the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, said: all the arguments in all the...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 826 cc639-642 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are notices to oppose within this group, so it may help if I start by addressing ...

Lord Paddick | 826 c642 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords for their contributions to this debate. As many noble ...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 826 cc643-4 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

143: After Clause 34, insert the following new Cl...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 826 c644 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment is in the name of my noble friend Lord Coaker and the noble Lord, Lord P...

Lord Paddick | 826 cc644-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we support Amendment 143 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, to which I have ad...

Lord Davies of Gower | 826 c645 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lords, Lord Coaker and Lord Paddick, for tabling this amendment. I em...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 826 c645 (Link to this contribution)

Well, the Minister did not make any attempt to answer any of the questions I asked. I do not know...

Lord Davies of Gower | 826 c645 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in respect of the specific questions, which are more or less covered by the Sentencing ...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 826 c646 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Chakrabarti

146: Clause 35, page 36, line 25, at end insert—

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Baroness Chakrabarti | 826 cc646-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I congratulate those still here. We end, of course, with commencement, because that is ...

Lord Paddick | 826 c647 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have tabled Amendments 148 and 150 in this group, and will speak also to Amendments 1...

Bishop of Chelmsford | 826 c647 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I add my support to Amendments 146 and 147, to which my right reverend friend the Bisho...

Lord Coaker | 826 cc647-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have spoken in this debate. I will make a couple of brief comme...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 826 cc648-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti, and the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, for tab...

Lord Paddick | 826 c649 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister clarify what I thought I heard—noble Lords know what I am like with making mista...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 826 c650 (Link to this contribution)

What I hope I said is that our expectation is that the provisions in the Bill will improve the ab...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 826 c650 (Link to this contribution)

That is very helpful. I agree with the Minister that police officers—we have a fine one in this C...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 826 c650 (Link to this contribution)

I just want to clarify that I mean criminal protesters.

Baroness Chakrabarti | 826 c650 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister but, of course, if the Government are able to keep expanding the de...

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