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Moved by
Baroness Chakrabarti
1: Clause 1, page 1, line 5, at end insert “without rea...
My Lords, I will rise slowly to allow the mass exodus from the Chamber of noble Lords who are fas...
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I am sorry to interrupt at such an early stage. My noble friend rightly said that she has the unh...
I am grateful, as always, to my noble friend, who has been a parliamentarian of distinction in bo...
My Lords, I have added my name to the other amendments in this group. If noble Lords will indulge...
My Lords, I put my name to Amendments 1 and 7 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti...
My Lords, I am happy to add my name to the group of amendments in the name of the noble Baroness,...
My Lords, my noble friend Lord Hendy has added his name to Amendment 60. In his unavoidable absen...
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Blower, and even more of a pleasure...
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Balfe. I absolutely agree with his fund...
My Lords, I shall follow up on precisely the point that the noble Lord, Lord Carlile, has just ma...
If I am to be corrected, I am, but may I just offer a view? It is an offence to wilfully obstruct...
Before the noble Lord continues, I ask him to point to the provisions in this Bill that make up f...
The Bill addresses this point, but we could spend for ever on that. None the less, I understand t...
My Lords, the extent to which there are gaps in our current legislation that require filling by t...
My Lords, I shall open by thanking the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, for setting the scene and the ba...
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate, to which I have listened carefu...
It appears from his general introduction that the Minister is going to proceed with this Bill. Su...
Well, I thank the noble Lord for that, and the answer is, of course, no.
That is a very clear answer. I wonder whether the Minister could give, perhaps, a sentence or two...
My Lords, it is reasonable to say at this point that we are about to have two days of quite detai...
Before the Minister continues, can he point to which part of this Bill would be deployed against ...
Well, we are about to go into a good deal of discussion about things such as serious disruption, ...
Does the Bill define serious disruption?
Again, we will come back to that in some detail in the debate on a later group. The amendments ha...
Will the Minister at some point explain to us why Section 78 of the Police, Crime, Sentencing and...
I commit to doing that in the debate on a later group.
Can the Minister address the issue of people being arrested and detained, and being allowed to de...
My Lords, I think I have gone into reasonable detail on the reasonable excuse situation, so I wil...
I am sorry to disagree with the Minister, but he addressed the issue of whether the burden of pro...
I will come back to the noble Lord on that.
If the Minister is going to come back to my noble friend, could he do so in this Chamber? That qu...
This is Committee, so we are allowed this sort of debate. I want to reinforce what the noble Lord...
My Lords, I think I have already gone into that. As I say, the Bill creates another set of offenc...
My Lords, I am almost speechless. I do not blame the Minister, but those briefing him really need...
I suggest to my noble friend that it also leads to juries being less and less likely to convict b...
I could not agree more with the noble Lord, Lord Balfe. Again, it echoes something that the noble...
My Lords, before calling Amendment 2, I must advise the Committee that if it is agreed to I will ...
Moved by
Lord Paddick
2: Clause 1, page 1, line 10, leave out “, or is capable of cau...
My Lords, in moving Amendment 2 in my name I will speak to the other 12 amendments in this group....
My Lords, my name is to Amendments 6, 27 and 38, which have been mentioned by the noble Lord, Lor...
I cannot sit still any more. I am starting to feel sorry for the Minister, who is on a very stick...
My Lords, I will make a very serious request of the Minister, who is dealing with this difficult ...
My Lords, in the absence of my right reverend friend the Bishop of St Albans, who is a signatory ...
My Lords, I speak in support of Amendments 2 and 4 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, t...
My Lords, I support most, if not all, of the amendments in this group seeking to circumscribe the...
My Lords, I have put my name to Amendments 36 and 37 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Paddick....
My Lords, having not spoken at Second Reading, but having listened to the debate, I want to contr...
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Hain, with his proud record of disruption, cautioned us against fo...
My Lords, as a former prosecutor, I commend Amendment 6 to the Minister. I have no doubt at all t...
My Lords, my noble friend Lady Chakrabarti is unable to be in her place for this group, which aff...
My Lords, I will speak to the amendments in my name and the name of my noble friend Lord Coaker. ...
My Lords, I once again thank your Lordships for all the contributions made in this debate. We tur...
The training of police— I am sorry.
The scope of the offences is drafted as such to ensure ...
Is there a prospect of the Minister coming up with definitions in time for Report, to prevent us ...
I will certainly endeavour to—I can make no promises. I am sorry: the noble Lord, Lord Ponsonby, ...
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for their contributions to this debate. The noble and learned L...
Moved by
Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb
5: Clause 1, page 1, line 15, at end insert—
My Lords, I am not going to describe all the amendments in this group. I am hoping that noble Lor...
My Lords, the noble Baroness has raised the absurdity of the locking-on offence and the problems ...
My Lords, on Amendment 5, in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Jones of Moulsecoomb, we agree ...
My Lords, I put my name to a number of amendments, as the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, read out. He ...
My Lords, I will speak briefly in support of Amendment 21 from the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, to w...
My Lords, I thank those who have supported the various amendments in my name. I very much support...
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this shortish debate. I have already spo...
Can the Minister help the Committee by saying how he would answer this question, and if he has as...
My Lords, these things are judged on a case-by-case basis. It would depend entirely on where I wa...
My Lords, I listened with great interest to the Minister’s reply to the Committee’s discussion on...
That is captured. As I say,
“A person commits an offence if they have an object with them i...
On this issue of intent, Clause 6 creates a criminal offence of obstructing “major transport work...
Not at this point, I will have to write to the noble Lord.
Bearing in mind the number of amendments, I worked out that the Minister spent 17 seconds per ame...
My Lords, I am afraid I do.
I thank all noble Lords who have contributed to this debate. I have really enjoyed it and I think...
Moved by
Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb
9: Clause 1, page 1, line 18, at end insert—
Again, I will just talk to my two amendments. The noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope, and I are pr...
My Lords, I shall speak to my Amendments 11, 30, 34, 41, 57 and 63. That may seem a bit of a mout...
Could the noble and learned Lord explain whether he thinks that phrasing the clause in this way d...
I am grateful to the noble Lord because I am coming on to deal with exactly that. Indeed, it lead...
My Lords, I am very sorry that I was not able to speak at Second Reading. I shall be very brief. ...
My Lords, I hesitate, as a non- lawyer, or even as someone who has never been a judge or magistra...
My Lords, this is an interesting group of amendments. I will come to the amendments of the noble ...
The crucial point that I was trying to make is that we are dealing here with serious disruption. ...
I could not agree more; the issue of proportionality is exactly right. But this is difficult. I h...
And worse. Well, not quite worse, but I have done similar things, and that is the price you pay f...
I thank all noble Lords for their contributions to this very interesting debate on this set of am...
Before the arrival of the Minister in the Chamber, the noble Lord, Lord Sharpe, said that he woul...
Certainly, and I thank the noble Baroness for her question. It is important that we have clarity ...
I am very grateful to the Minister for giving way. He just said that, in other parts of the Bill,...
In Clause 7, “Interference with use or operation of key national infrastructure”, one can see tha...
Is the Minister saying that you cannot lock on in the furtherance of a trade dispute but you can ...
Clearly, the provisions of the locking-on offence do not expressly contain the same provision. Th...
I just seek some clarification. In response to the speech I made earlier about picketing, and sin...
Can I confirm with my officials and write to the noble Baroness in respect of that point? My unde...
While the Minister is conferring with his officials, can he suggest to them that they look at Cla...
I hear what the noble and learned Lord says, and I will certainly ask them.
I think that I ...
Can I just seek clarification on what the Minister said earlier about tunnels not constructed by ...
I thank the noble Lord for his intervention. The short answer is that these cases are always goin...
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have contributed. I enjoyed the critique of reasonable defe...