Nationality and Borders Bill

I absolutely understand why the Minister has said what she has with respect to the Home Secretary...

I agree with the noble Lord and I will clarify the point on this issue. He knows that I will clar...

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, for his intervention. From memory—and I have to sa...

Moved by

Lord Etherton

68: Clause 14, page 17, line 41, at end insert—

“(c) fai...

In moving the amendment in my name, I should say that I have also put my name to the proposal fro...

My Lords, notwithstanding the fact that we have touched on some of these issues before, we have t...

My Lords, I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, that there has to be some shared responsibility...

My Lords, I do not think that the noble Lord is right about EU arrangements. I remember as an MEP...

My Lords, unsurprisingly, I agree with everyone who has spoken so far except, I am afraid, for th...

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow my noble friend Lady Chakrabarti. I will be brief. I thank t...

My Lords, I am going to make a short speech about how the Government want to have their cake and ...

My Lords, I agree with the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti, but my feeling about these amendment...

I am so sorry but would the noble Lord remove his mask for a moment so we could better hear his w...

Was everything I said even more incomprehensible than usual? Basically, I am saying that we can a...

My Lords, very briefly, my deep concern is that the Government’s proposal virtually rules out us ...

My Lords, my name is to a number of amendments in this group—including Amendments 69A, 71A, 71B, ...

My Lords, there are lots of issues here, but I start by making an overarching comment. A decade o...

I have the Clause 15 stand part debate and Amendment 195 in my name. I thank the noble Lord, Lord...

My Lords, I support the proposal from the noble Lord, Lord Rosser, to exclude Clause 15 from the ...

My Lords, I thank noble Lords again for speaking to this group of amendments. I appreciate the th...

Briefly, on the Minister’s previous point in response to the right reverend Prelate about refugee...

Can I write to the noble Baroness on that? I suspect that I will misspeak if I try to answer beca...

Will the Minister confirm that to date we do not have an agreement with any country for the retur...

There are countries that we can return people to but, as I said, I will not provide a running com...

If I remember rightly, we returned only five last year. It is partly to do with Covid, I fully ac...

I am not disagreeing with the need to have formal arrangements in place to return people. On that...

How does case-by-case work? If we are not going to have agreements and the Minister says it is mu...

I think it is both. We need to assess people on a case-by-case basis and we need to have return a...

Does that mean that the Government accept that Clause 15 is pretty meaningless without such agree...

No, I do not accept that Clause 15 is meaningless. I am agreeing that we need to have return agre...

If we do not have return agreements in place by the time this clause comes in, we will end up wit...

I was going to go on to say that if no agreement is possible within a reasonable period, the indi...

No other country is in this position because other countries believe that the refugee convention ...

Surely the noble Lord, Lord Rosser, is right: there is no realistic possibility. The Minister kee...

My Lords, I am not sure whether this is helpful to the Minister or not, but the Dublin agreement ...

That is a very good point. I think we talked about this the other day, in terms of returns. We ac...

The noble Baroness should be careful. I quite agree that it was an interesting point, but it is a...

I do not know if the noble Lord heard my last point, but we do not necessarily need formal return...

Can I just be clear? Will this then work on the basis of some ad hoc arrangements that will be de...

My Lords, I am saying that there are a number of ways in which we can seek to secure this—formal,...

The Minister said that two issues were widely recognised internationally. One was the definition ...

We have had wide discussions about the UNHCR’s opinion on this and think that we are complying wi...

My Lords, I will not move Amendment 76 and will consider the Minister’s comments on it.

My Lords, I am extremely grateful to the Minister for battling so valiantly in relation to all th...

If Amendment 69 is agreed I cannot call Amendment 69A because of pre-emption.

If Amendment 71B is agreed I cannot call Amendment 72 because of pre-emption.

If Amendment 74 is agreed I cannot call Amendment 74A because of pre-emption.

Moved by

Lord Coaker

77: Clause 17, page 21, line 15, at end insert—

“(1A) The ...

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Rosser tabled Amendments 77 and 89. In this group we also very muc...

My Lords, we have Amendments 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 82A, 82B, 86A, 86B, 90 and 90A in this group. I ...

My Lords, I support Amendment 95 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Coussins, who apologises...

My Lords, I will speak briefly to Amendment 85 on the destruction of documents. I am a sponsor of...

My Lords, I will speak to the five amendments in this group—Amendments 83, 88, 90B, 95A and 137, ...

My Lords, I shall speak against Clause 25 standing part. I agree with so much of what has already...

Would the noble Baroness like to say whether evidence is ever deliberately produced late in order...

I have no doubt that that is sometimes the case, but my point is that you do not need Clause 25 t...

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow my noble friend Lady Chakrabarti. I have deep concerns about...

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 83 and 88, which I have co-signed, and Amendment 96, but the...

My Lords, I will speak to my Amendments 82, 84, 86, 90, 91 and 96. I would like to start by takin...

My Lords, as my noble friend Lady Hamwee explained, Clause 17 has the potential for time limits t...

My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have taken part in this debate, which has ranged f...

My Lords, is the Minister saying that in practice—I hope he is—if someone has quite clearly destr...

I really do not want —as I said earlier—to get into a position of glossing the wording of the Bil...

Is the Minister able to give an assurance that this guidance, which has been referred to a great ...

My Lords, I think I was asked a similar question, in a different context, on the police Bill. I w...

My Lords, on that very important point, perhaps the Minister will take back to the Home Office th...

I am sorry for interrupting, but I am becoming a little confused again, I am afraid, probably bec...

Let me come to that point in a second. First, let me say that I almost took it as implicit in the...

It may be that, because it has been a long day, I have missed something, or it may be that I have...

There are a number of ways of skinning this particular cat because there are separate amendments ...

It is not my amendment so maybe it could be worded better. The noble Lord gave great emphasis to ...

I think I have received the email from the Red Cross, as I think it emailed everyone. I have set ...

I absolutely understand—I do not think it was in its general briefing, but it produced a separate...

In that case, I will certainly read it over the weekend. I know that those in the Home Office res...

I am saying that, if we trust—as I am sure the Government do—immigration officers, the Secretary ...

As regards the in terrorem threat that things will be litigated ad nauseam, I am tempted to say t...

It says that they have to have good reason.

It does not do that either.

It does not say that the tribunal “must give the evidence minim...

I promise that this is my final intervention on the Minister, but I do not understand why we have...

It is because there is absolutely nothing wrong with Parliament saying to a tribunal, “We want yo...

I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this very important debate. I also thank the Minister....

My Lords, I have put my name to the proposal that Clauses 22 and 23 should not stand part of the ...

My Lords, I apologise but, in the war of attrition that this Bill has become, we seem to have los...

My Lords, the Bill’s system of penalisation includes curtailing appeal rights, as set out in Clau...

My Lords, in the last group I spoke at some length. This time I hope to be more brief. The princi...

Moved by

Baroness Ludford

93: Clause 24, page 28, line 40, after “notice” insert “or ...

My Lords, as I said in an earlier group, the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, who is the lead signatory of ...

My Lords, I have Amendment 94A in this group. I am sorry that I could not respond to the Minister...

My Lords, we support the amendments in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, for the reasons my ...

We too support the amendments we are debating. I suppose, in a sense, this clause is a rare secti...

My Lords, I am grateful to all those who have contributed. These amendments obviously deal with m...

I am really sorry, I know we are looking at the clock, but if I have understood it, and I am sure...

The noble Baroness must have had access to my notes, because that was just the point I was going ...

Before my noble friend responds, could the Minister at least acknowledge that it is not just a ma...

The noble Baroness’s question is quite broad. She knows that we have had a number of discussions ...

I appreciate the care with which the Minister has responded to these amendments. Although he star...

Moved by

Baroness Ludford

97: Clause 26, page 31, line 38, leave out from “State” to ...

This clause is about accelerated detained appeals. In moving Amendment 97 I will also cover Amend...

My Lords, the noble Baroness is right to say this is the detained fast track brought back again, ...

I speak in support of the amendment in my name in relation to Clause 26, Amendment 98. It is that...

My Lords, for the reasons I explained in a previous group, accelerating appeals processes is not ...

In this group, I have the Clause 26 stand part amendment, and Clause 26 requires the Tribunal Pro...

My Lords, I will come to the amendments in a moment but, since we have had a number of references...

I may not have been listening as attentively as I should have been, but if the Minister has alrea...

I shall reply to the second point first, if I may. The language in Clause 26(5) is essentially th...

Is it the same or essentially the same? My understanding, and I may be wrong, is that the Bill no...

My Lords, I think we are at cross-purposes. I was not saying that the language had not changed; I...

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord again for his detailed responses. On the first point, on Amendme...