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Dissolution and Calling of Parliament Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Tuesday, 25 January 2022, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage. Clauses 1 to 6 agreed to. Schedule agreed to. Bill reported without amendment.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
818 cc180-254 
Session
2021-22
Department
Cabinet Office
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Proceeding contributions
Lord Grocott | 818 c180 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much support Clause 1 being part of the Bill, but I want briefly to record how b...

Lord Lexden | 818 c180 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Evelyn Waugh once said that the problem with the Tory party is that it

“never put...


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Lord Norton of Louth | 818 c180 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Norton of Louth

1: Clause 2, page 1, line 6, after “Her Majesty’s” inse...

Lord Norton of Louth | 818 cc181-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Government have a manifesto commitment to get rid of the Fixed-term Parliaments Act...

Lord Beith | 818 cc182-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the House is indebted to the noble Lord for elucidating this issue and tabling the amen...

Lord Grocott | 818 cc183-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree with much of what the noble Lord, Lord Beith, said and with the amendment table...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 818 c184 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are very much indebted to the noble Lord for his background in this matter. It is im...

Lord Desai | 818 c184 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if I may intervene in this debate, I think it is still important that what used to be t...

Lord Lexden | 818 c185 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree with all those who have said that my noble friend Lord Norton of Louth has done...

Lord Grocott | 818 c185 (Link to this contribution)

May I just ask, what would be an improper dissolution?

Lord Lexden | 818 c185 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think I could make a list of the possibilities. One can conceive of them, but we trust t...

Viscount Stansgate | 818 c185 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I intervene briefly because this is a very interesting debate and I am grateful to the ...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 818 c185 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the answer to the question of the noble Lord, Lord Grocott, may be that, if something w...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 818 c186 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak only briefly. This short debate shows how, although we have five groups...

Lord True | 818 cc186-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all those who contributed to what has been an important and interesting debate....

Lord Norton of Louth | 818 cc187-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am extremely grateful to everyone who has spoken. It has given rise to a very valuabl...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 818 c188 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

2: Clause 2, page 1, line 9, at end insert “subject...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 818 cc188-190 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, quite a lot of what we will discuss this evening is how far we need to put into statute...

Lord Judge | 818 cc190-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment in my name and those of the noble Baroness, Lady Smith of Basildon, and t...

Baroness Taylor of Bolton | 818 cc192-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I listened carefully to the noble Lord, Lord True, and he is right that this is an impo...

Lord Lansley | 818 cc193-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very pleased to contribute to this debate. I signed Amendment 3 together with the ...

Lord Sherbourne of Didsbury | 818 c194 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may ask my noble friend about a situation where there was a hung Parliament, where the ...

Lord Lansley | 818 cc194-6 (Link to this contribution)

There are many circumstances in which crises can emerge. There are arguments that cut both ways. ...

Lord Beith | 818 c196 (Link to this contribution)

This is an issue which divided the Joint Committee. The view expressed by the noble and learned L...

Lord Lisvane | 818 c197 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I had added my name to Amendment 2 in the name of noble Lord, Lord Wallace of Saltaire,...

Baroness Noakes | 818 cc197-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not often agree with the noble Lord, Lord Wallace of Saltaire, as he knows, but I ...

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 818 cc198-200 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I feel part of an endangered species: a Cross-Bencher who fully supports this governmen...

Lord Grocott | 818 cc200-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I comment specifically on the amendment in the name of the noble and learned Lor...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 818 cc201-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, like everybody else who has spoken in the Committee so far today, I share the objective...

Lord Newby | 818 cc202-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I put my name to this amendment for the reasons given by the noble and learned Lord, Lo...

Lord Sherbourne of Didsbury | 818 cc203-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very puzzled by this debate. There have been words used such as “inappropriate”, “...

Lord Grocott | 818 c204 (Link to this contribution)

I am glad to assist, but I would like to ask the noble Lord a question. I have already explained ...

Lord Grocott | 818 c204 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry. God, I will be glad when we get rid of those for good.

The noble Lord, Lord She...

Lord Sherbourne of Didsbury | 818 cc204-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am very pleased that the noble Lord asked that question, because the debates this evening have ...

Lord Beith | 818 c205 (Link to this contribution)

I shall seek to answer the noble Lord’s question. I go back to February 1974. Imagine that Harold...

Lord Sherbourne of Didsbury | 818 c205 (Link to this contribution)

I just think that if you gave the House of Commons the opportunity to veto it, and the Government...

Lord Butler of Brockwell | 818 c205 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord asked for an example of where a Prime Minister might illegitimately ask ...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 818 cc205-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a very vivid recollection of Harold Wilson’s problem when he was elected with le...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 818 cc207-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a long and really interesting discussion, and it sums up the very reason ...

Lord True | 818 cc209-211 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all those who have spoken in what has rightly been a lengthy debate. Perhaps my...

Lord Grocott | 818 c211 (Link to this contribution)

My Lord, if the Minister is going down the path of history, can he please address the specific po...

Lord True | 818 cc211-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am coming on to that, as I just said to the House I would. You can look at those circ...

Lord Lansley | 818 c212 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend must address the point. The point is that if the requirement were not what the Fi...

Lord True | 818 cc212-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there is a conditional in that: a “would”. I believe that people must be presumed to in...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 818 cc214-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I briefly point out that the definition of “Prorogation” that the Minister has just giv...

Lord Judge | 818 c216 (Link to this contribution)

Tabled by

Lord Judge

3: Clause 2, page 1, line 9, at end insert—

“(1A) The powe...

Lord Judge | 818 cc216-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is rather fun to be clothed in the costume of a revolutionary who is about to tear d...

Lord Norton of Louth | 818 c217 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Norton of Louth

4: Clause 3, page 1, line 17, leave out “or purported e...

Lord Norton of Louth | 818 cc217-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall also speak to my other two amendments in this group. The amendments would ensur...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 818 cc218-221 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I added my name to the amendments in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Norton of Louth, ...

Lord Faulks | 818 cc221-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Committee has shown in the debate on this Bill so far that there is common ground t...

Lord Butler of Brockwell | 818 cc223-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall disagree with the noble Lord who has just spoken by opposing the inclusion of C...

Lord Beith | 818 cc225-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with a Supreme Court judge, the chairman of the most recent inquiry into the workings o...

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 818 c226 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my core concern regarding this group of amendments is for the future generation of judg...

Baroness Noakes | 818 c227 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak only on Clause 3 stand part and not on the more detailed amendments, becau...

Lord Butler of Brockwell | 818 c227 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness and I agree that the circumstances in which this situation arises are unthinka...

Baroness Noakes | 818 cc227-8 (Link to this contribution)

We have it because it is just possible that the courts could find a way in. We have seen them get...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 818 c228 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if we are talking about our tried and tested constitution, we should remember that in t...

Lord Faulks | 818 c228 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord says that the clause does not restore the status quo. Does it follow that, in his ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 818 cc228-9 (Link to this contribution)

I find it hard to imagine a situation in which the power of Dissolution would be used in the way ...

Lord Grocott | 818 cc229-230 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to think that the Minister will find this argument conclusive. If he had a...

Viscount Stansgate | 818 c230 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have been listening to this debate and it has been extremely interesting. I will not ...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 818 cc230-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in this debate I find myself in the unusual position of agreeing with almost every spea...

Lord True | 818 cc231-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will certainly seek to do so. I do not wish to pre-empt the Committee in any way. We ...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 818 c234 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt the Minister, and I am grateful for the detail that he is going into. I a...

Lord True | 818 c234 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as noble Lords know, I am a lay man. I have read out the legal advice that I have been ...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 818 c234 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I suspect that those words are sufficient for lawyers, but I think the Minister’s under...

Lord True | 818 c234 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I seek to put into the record the points put to me by those who argue and maintain that...

Lord Beith | 818 c234 (Link to this contribution)

I want to clarify something. Clearly, one reason to include the word “purported” is to deal with ...

Lord True | 818 cc236-7 (Link to this contribution)

I heard what the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope, and the noble Lord, Lord Beith, said and I wa...

Lord Faulks | 818 c238 (Link to this contribution)

This may be an observation intended to help the Minister. Since the Bill was drafted, the Judicia...

Lord True | 818 cc238-240 (Link to this contribution)

I will come to that particular piece of legislation—definitely—since it has been raised. To compl...

Lord Norton of Louth | 818 c239 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much agree with the noble Lord, Lord Beith, that it has been a very good debate ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 818 c241 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

7: Clause 4, page 2, line 2, leave out “If it has n...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 818 cc241-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I speak to Amendments 7 and 9, I want to say one or two things about the conditi...

Lord Rooker | 818 cc242-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have found the debate fascinating today. I thank the Minister for the detailed respon...

Viscount Stansgate | 818 c245 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much enjoyed the speech of my noble friend, for whom—I hope he will allow me to ...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 818 c246 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise briefly, if only to remind your Lordships’ House that the Labour Chief Whip, the...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 818 cc246-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords; I am very grateful to the noble Lords, Lord Wallace of Saltaire and Lord Roo...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 818 c248 (Link to this contribution)

I beg leave to withdraw the amendment, noting that we may return on at least one of these amendme...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 818 c248 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

10: Clause 6, page 2, line 13, leave out subsection...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 818 cc248-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the purpose of the two amendments in this group is to draw attention to recommendations...

Lord Norton of Louth | 818 cc249-250 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much agree with the noble Lord about the need for a revision of the Cabinet Manu...

Viscount Stansgate | 818 c250 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Norton, that it does not have to be agreed by Parliam...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 818 c250 (Link to this contribution)

I just want to say how much I enjoyed my noble friend’s speech. I very much agree with his points...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 818 c251 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that we have had a slightly longer and more interesting discussion on this than...

Lord True | 818 cc251-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Wallace, has frequently looked forward to that fabled day when the...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 818 cc253-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the question really is: where are these documents and when are they going to be publish...

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