Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill

I rise to express my grave concerns about this new clause, which I hope will not be enacted, alth...

My Lords, I share the serious concerns of the noble Viscount. Given the degree of pressure that t...

My Lords, I cannot speak as eloquently as the speakers we have just heard, but I want to say that...

My Lords, I share many of the reservations expressed already and the analysis given on both the p...

My Lords, if I may, I will add a point that follows on from what the noble Lord, Lord Beith, said...

My Lords, arguing this case is far beyond my pay grade, but I support everything that my noble fr...

My Lords, we have more and more life sentences and less and less judicial discretion. The point m...

My Lords, I am puzzled by the mechanism that the Government are trying to use to increase sentenc...

My Lords, on these Benches we share the shock and revulsion at the death of PC Harper and the way...

My Lords, I had a problem with this amendment myself but, not being a lawyer, I thought I would l...

My Lords, I stand on these Benches to support, or at least not to oppose, the Government. But I h...

My Lords, I am grateful to all those who have contributed and I can start by reassuring the noble...

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. One point he has not dealt with, as I understand it...

The reasoned explanation is that the Government believe that this is an offence which should be m...

The Minister has just given the game away by his slip of the tongue. He said it is a case which s...

We are now having precisely the opposite debate to the one we had in Committee. In Committee, whe...

I am sorry to interrupt again, but the Minister has said something completely untenable. He said ...

My Lords, with genuine respect, the noble Lord is wrong if he thinks that that is what I have sai...

But does not all of this imply that we are really not serving any purpose by the new clause, part...

My Lords, I have explained that. There is a difference between being given a life sentence with a...

That is true, too, but the case of murder arises from the original bargain made with Parliament a...

My noble friend is absolutely right to say that that is the origin of the life sentence for murde...

My Lords, does the Minister not run the risk of ending up, in the case of the pub brawl, with the...

I would not use the word “risk” at all. On the one hand, I am being charged with not trusting the...

Forgive me—and I thank the Minister—but perhaps I might ask him whether it is reasonable that a 1...

My Lords, we have considered this. We restricted the new sentence to 16 and 17 year-olds to ensur...

I am so sorry, but I do not understand why we are arguing about this. We are all dissatisfied wit...

I am not a lawyer, I am very pleased to say—I am just a simple sailor. However, it seems from the...

I was not going to say anything, but I am, I think, the only former police officer in the Chamber...

I know it is bad form, but perhaps I can answer in reverse order. I certainly was not saying that...

I apologise for not being here at the outset, but I have listened very carefully to what has been...

Like the noble Baroness, Lady Lister, I, too, apologise for not being here at the outset when my ...

My Lords, the joys of the IPP debate are ahead of us. That raises very different points. The IPP ...

The Minister listened very carefully to the debate in Committee on IPP. Some of us have read that...

I do not know which of the no-doubt multifarious press releases the noble Baroness read, but it w...

My Lords, I cannot resist the temptation. Would the Minister be prepared to express some uncertai...

My Lords, I am not quite sure what I am being asked to accept, but I do not have any uncertainty ...

The relevance of IPP sentences to this debate is that, when IPP sentences were introduced, rather...

As I said, I am very alive to the IPP issues, as the noble Lord knows; but the IPP issue and the ...

My Lords, the noble Lord started his contribution to this debate by saying that he was listening....

As I hope the House knows from this Bill and plenty of other Bills, I am very happy to discuss is...

My Lords, I have another suggestion for the noble Lord, as we can all see that he is in a difficu...

I am sorry to make a second intervention before the Minister has had a chance to answer the first...

My Lords, I am not convinced that the noble Lord, Lord Ponsonby, is correct because if we delay t...

My Lords, I am not going to try to adjudicate on that point, which seems to be a point of procedu...

This is pretty shocking. There is a lot of support for the principle that the amendment could be ...

I am very happy to be accused of all sorts of things, but I hope that nobody in this House believ...

Following on from the remarks of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Falconer, can the Government ag...

I have an alternative suggestion; perhaps the clerk can tell us whether it is legal. Is there any...

No. We can.

Then if the Minister puts the Question, I will call for a vote.

Any Member of the House can call a vote but, if the Minister is not willing to accede to any of t...

In the last week, as is my wont, I have had discussions with a number of Members of this House on...

My Lords, I hate to intervene on my noble friend but I will formally move that the House be adjou...

My Lords, I ask the House to vote on my amendment.

Motion

Moved by

Viscount Hailsham

I beg to move.

My Lords, I want to put it on record that in the last week, when this amendment has been tabled, ...