My Lords, I am very grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken on this group. We have had a really good discussion, especially
about older steam engines. I certainly would support an amendment that put this in the Bill, because it is a really serious issue, and it does affect stationary engines as well as moving ones, as noble Lords have said.
I shall also read with interest and in detail the Minister’s response to my three amendments. I find it odd that we are not looking at legislation that applies to all machines—if you can call them that—that emit emissions. Whether they are air, sea, river or road-based, they all emit emissions, and so to me, they should all be treated in the same way in this legislation.
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There was one other issue: I was surprised to hear the Minister say, I think, that the manufacturers will be penalised and made to compensate if they get it wrong and contravene whatever regulations we find. That is fine for a company such as Volkswagen, if it is caught out—I think it was the noble Baroness, Lady Randerson, who said that companies are not charities and will do everything to get around this legislation, for good economic reasons, as they see it—but some manufacturers will, over the years, go bust, and some of the equipment, particularly farm equipment, has a life of several decades. There may not be very many such instances, but I think everybody should be treated equally.
Again, I thank all noble Lords who spoke on this group of amendments. I will read what the Minister said with great interest, and I may even request a meeting, but we will see about that. In the meantime, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.