Technical and Further Education Bill

My Lords, it is fair to say that the question of international students is, to put it mildly, a s...

My Lords, I support this amendment and entirely agree with the noble Lord, Lord Watson, on the im...

My Lords, I shall speak briefly in support of this amendment. I want to remind your Lordships and...

My Lords, the Committee will be aware that this issue is already being considered as part of the ...

I thank the two noble Lords who contributed to the debate and the Minister for his response. I ag...

Moved by

Lord Watson of Invergowrie

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My Lords, this proposed new clause may not at first sight seem as if it is appropriate for this B...

My Lords, I know personally several young people who will probably have to pursue a course much l...

My Lords, I wholly support what the noble Lord, Lord Watson, said, while equally recognising that...

My Lords, I spoke on this issue at Second Reading, so I just reiterate what my colleagues have sa...

My Lords, I support all the points that have been made. I shall speak on one narrow issue. I was ...

My Lords, I support the amendment. It would be very useful if the Minister were prepared to meet ...

I, too, support the amendment. Like other noble Lords, I recognise that this is not something tha...

My Lords, I shall make one additional point in support of the amendment. I was one of the foundin...

My Lords, I am sorry to disappoint, but Superman is not responding to this amendment, and I am ce...

Is there not a fairly simple way of bringing this within the scope of the Bill, as was suggested ...

I was going to ask the Minister to address that point. If the apprenticeship is approved by the I...

The difficulty is that the institute cannot change the definition of an apprenticeship. However, ...

If the institute cannot change the definition of an apprenticeship, who can?

My Lords, the difficulty is that the definition of a job is a question for Parliament.

I thank the Minister for her response and all colleagues who have spoken in the debate. I particu...

Moved by

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath

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My Lords, at the heart of many of our debates so far there has been a desire to ensure that there...

My Lords, I have a couple of questions to add to those of the noble Lord, Lord Hunt. It is import...

My Lords, I will focus on just one area because, as I understand it, the various bodies set out i...

My Lords, this is a very important amendment. The Government have set an ambitious target of 3 mi...

I support the amendment. I feel that, in all this, there is tension between what the Bill would l...

I am grateful to the noble Lords, Lord Watson of Invergowrie and Lord Hunt, for this amendment. I...

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister. We always thought that he had super powers and are glad ...

Moved by

Lord Watson of Invergowrie

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My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 16 and 18, which deal with the issue of representation with...

This is an important amendment. I very much enjoyed the exchange at Oral Questions today in which...

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 36A, which is in my name and has been placed in this group. ...

My Lords, I support the principle of Amendment 16. It is right and important that the institute s...

I too support the amendment, although I think I may have got out of my depth with training provid...

My Lords, I want to make a couple of points on these amendments. First, as I said at Second Readi...

My Lords, I support the amendment from the noble Baroness, Lady Wolf. FE Week seems to be getting...

My Lords, I support these amendments and the views of the noble Baroness, Lady Wolf. Equally, I h...

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lords, Lord Watson and Lord Hunt, for their two amendments r...

On that point, can the Minister say how this was done? Were applications invited?

I will have to write to the noble Lord about that.

As well as advising the board, the first...

If it is not necessary to have protection because not very many people get affected, why is it ne...

I will come to that in my explanation. These are private companies and it is not our role to inte...

I asked how they are subject to scrutiny and accountability for the quality of service they are p...

It is Ofsted.

I am happy not to press my amendment, but I would like some clarification on why a private compan...

I think the Minister has sat down now and that the point made by the noble Baroness, Lady Wolf, i...

Moved by

Lord Lucas

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My Lords, I shall also speak to the other amendments in this group. I remind the Committee that I...

My Lords, I entirely support what the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, said. We have no pattern of a singl...

My Lords, I must rise to defend the position of the Sainsbury review, as I was a member of it and...

Yes, it is perfectly possible to do that but does the noble Baroness not think that we need a dec...

I hope that with the licensing situation there will be a chunk of time when it is worth investing...

I must admit that I am torn now between the two positions, having heard what both sides have said...

My Lords, I remind the Committee that I am a patron of an awarding body, ASDAN. Also, as a Minist...

I remember that my nursery nurses were terribly upset when their NNEB qualifications went and the...

I am responsible for 2,000 degree-level apprentices and about the same number of others. At the m...

My Lords, I share the concerns that have been expressed about a single awarding body. I would hav...

My Lords, this is an important part of the Bill because this is how the Government clearly intend...

My Lords, I join the noble Lord, Lord Baker, in saying that, at heart, we want to hear how this w...

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords, and in particular my noble friend Lord Lucas, for this very he...

With the greatest respect, that is a ridiculous comment, and I do not know why the noble Baroness...

I respect the noble Lord’s response, but 80 employees is quite a lot of people, and that is not w...

I understood the Minister to say that an outcome is not necessarily an educational qualification....

It is.

Then what is an outcome? I think that at some stage in her speech the Minister said that it was a...

I agree entirely with my noble friend. Forgive me if, when talking about knowledge, it seemed as ...

I want to be sure I understand this. If we stick to the example of plumbing, I am assuming that t...

Off the top of my head, I cannot give a particular example. The noble Baroness, Lady Cohen, talke...

A lawyer’s qualification would be required, but it does not necessarily have to be called “shippi...

Surely that is a good example.

I have been talking plumbers with officials so that I can un...

This is surely what awarding bodies are doing all the time—they are awarding qualifications but i...

That goes back to the core reason why we are doing this. There were multifarious organisations ra...

I think I am clearer now on the standards. In the last part of her contribution, the Minister ref...

In essence, I am assured that it will lead to new qualifications. Is that any help to the noble L...

I would welcome a letter clarifying that situation. What happens to the existing ones? We have me...

I would be very happy to write to the noble Lord but, in essence, the current qualifications will...

We are learning a lot as we go along. It was quite interesting, although it was not very specific...

I reassure my noble friend that there will be a proper tender process for this. Through it, the c...

I want to pick up on the very interesting point that the noble Lord raises. If you have a single ...

First, it is not being handed over to the Government but to the institute, which is funded—

My Lords, there is no such thing as independent bodies in this area. All the bodies listed are go...

I am sorry that the noble Lord seems to be taking quite a negative approach to this. As I said ea...

My Lords, I am very grateful to my noble friend for her lengthy explanation. The main thing I wou...

I am very happy to say that a meeting on the basis my noble friend suggests would be welcome betw...

I am very grateful for that, and I am sure that other Members of the Committee would be delighted...

Moved by

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath

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