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Neighbourhood Planning Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Thursday, 2 February 2017, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth.
Lords committee stage second day. Clause 6 agreed to as amended. Clauses 7 to 10 agreed to. Clause 11 agreed to as amended. Schedule 2 agreed to.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
778 cc229-294GC 
Session
2016-17
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Neighbourhood Planning Bill 2016-17. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 14 December 2016
Bills
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee fifteenth report.
Wednesday, 25 January 2017
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 778 c229GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if there is a Division in the Chamber while we are sitting, the Committee will adjourn ...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 778 c229GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kennedy of Southwark

14: After Clause 5, insert the following new Claus...


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Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 778 cc229-231GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare my usual interests as this is the first time I have spoken in Grand Committee...

Baroness Cumberlege | 778 cc231-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also declare an interest. I have interests listed in the register and I have a pendin...

Lord Tope | 778 cc232-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is to Amendment 44 and I would certainly have been happy to add it to Amendment...

Baroness Andrews | 778 cc234-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendments and thank noble Lords for what they have said because, althoug...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 c235GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have participated in the debate on the amendments in this group...

Baroness Andrews | 778 c235GC (Link to this contribution)

Are those 13,000 homes generated by the conversion of offices?

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 c235GC (Link to this contribution)

I believe that this is all permitted development rights conversion to residential.

Baroness Andrews | 778 c235GC (Link to this contribution)

It would be useful to have a breakdown of the number generated by the conversion of offices.

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 cc236-7GC (Link to this contribution)

I suspect that that forms the bulk of them but I shall endeavour to get that information.

P...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 778 cc237-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister. Before withdrawing the amendment, I would like to raise one or two points w...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 c238GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for that. In answer to the question, “Do I know Lewisham?”, I have certain...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 778 c238GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, and of course he is very welcome to visit my ward in Lewisham any time he...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 778 c238GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kennedy of Southwark

15: After Clause 5, insert the following new Claus...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 778 cc238-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment, which is in my name and that of the noble Baroness, Lady Bakewell of Ha...

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 778 cc239-240GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as this is the first time I have spoken in Committee I draw the Committee’s attention t...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 cc240-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy, and the noble Baroness, Lady Bakewell of Hardingt...

Lord Greaves | 778 c241GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to speak briefly to Amendment 15, which my noble friend Lady Bakewell has spoken...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 c241GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will seek to reassure the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, on both points.

First, if t...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 778 c242GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his response. I am pleased by his comments and am looking forw...

Lord Greaves | 778 c242GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Greaves

16: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause—

“Rev...

Lord Greaves | 778 cc242-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 16 is about a review of neighbourhood areas and is particularly focused on th...

Lord Taylor of Goss Moor | 778 cc244-6GC (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for arriving a little late. Trains from the West Country are operating rather badly b...

Lord Horam | 778 cc246-7GC (Link to this contribution)

What the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, said strikes a chord with me. I always represented very urban ...

Lord Tope | 778 c247GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, to follow the noble Lord, Lord Horam, I should perhaps start by reassuring him that the...

Lord Horam | 778 c247GC (Link to this contribution)

I was referring to Bromley, which has no Liberal Democrat presence at all.

Lord Tope | 778 cc247-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I know there is a temporary cessation, but give it another year or two.

I strongly support ...

Lord Shipley | 778 c248GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope the Minister will understand that this is a very important issue. The reasons fo...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 778 cc248-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have only a few brief remarks to make on this amendment. To go back again to my own w...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 cc249-252GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the many noble Lords who have participated in the debate on this amendment. Bef...

Lord Greaves | 778 cc250-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister for the positive and constructive way in which he re...

Lord Beecham | 778 c254GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Beecham

17: Clause 6, page 5, line 27, at end insert—

“(1CA) The ...

Lord Beecham | 778 cc254-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I refer again to my interests as a Newcastle city councillor and a vice-president of th...

Baroness Andrews | 778 c255GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Andrews

17A: Clause 6, after paragraph (e) insert—

“(f) the e...

Baroness Andrews | 778 c255GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the absence of the noble Baronesses, perhaps I can speak to the amendment. This is c...

Lord Shipley | 778 c256GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for tabling Amendment 19, which lies in this group and derives fro...

Baroness Cumberlege | 778 cc256-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is attached to that of the noble Lords, Lord Beecham and Lord Kennedy of Southw...

Baroness Andrews | 778 cc257-260GC (Link to this contribution)

I would quite like to speak to the other amendments, if I may, and welcome the Minister in the na...

Lord Shinkwin | 778 cc260-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too want to speak in support of Amendment 19, which I welcome enthusiastically for tw...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 cc261-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have participated in the debate on this group of amendments. Be...

Baroness Andrews | 778 c263GC (Link to this contribution)

I beg leave to withdraw Amendment 17A.

Lord Beecham | 778 cc263-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have contributed to the debate, particularly the noble Baro...

Lord Young of Cookham | 778 c265GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Young of Cookham

19: Clause 6, page 5, line 39, at end insert—

“(...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 778 cc265-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I gave notice of my intention to oppose Clause 7 standing part of the Bill, which is gr...

Baroness Cumberlege | 778 cc266-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, very often when we discuss a clause not standing part of a Bill, it is an opportunity t...

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 778 c267GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was a county councillor for 20 years and have been a district councillor for eight ye...

Lord Beecham | 778 cc267-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I have some doubts and concerns about these provisions. How does Clause 7 relate to combined auth...

Lord Shipley | 778 c268GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall be very brief but want to ask the Minister four specific questions about Clause...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 778 c268GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister responds, on the point raised by my noble friend Lord Beecham about difficult...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 cc269-271GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for the debate on this part of the Bill. I will try to take Clauses 7 and 8 i...

Baroness Cumberlege | 778 cc271-2GC (Link to this contribution)

I am comforted that there are no secret agendas for mergers, and I thank the Minister for his ass...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 778 c272GC (Link to this contribution)

On that specific point, perhaps when the Minister responds he can tell the Committee how the poli...

Lord Shipley | 778 c272GC (Link to this contribution)

The Minister kindly answered three of my four questions. The missing answer was on the right of a...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 c272GC (Link to this contribution)

I shall take up those points. In response to my noble friend Lady Cumberlege, this power will be ...

Lord Shipley | 778 c272GC (Link to this contribution)

I am happy for the Minister to write to me. Clearly, we need to define what cost recovery is, bec...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 c272GC (Link to this contribution)

That is an entirely fair point. As I said, there is a system to ensure that costs may be recovere...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 778 c272GC (Link to this contribution)

I was asking for information on the councils that are failing in their duties and so require the ...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 c273GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sure the noble Lord was listening very carefully to what I said. I said that we need backsto...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 778 c273GC (Link to this contribution)

That makes it a bit clearer: at the moment, there are no councils against which the Government wo...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 c273GC (Link to this contribution)

I must correct that very serious accusation. I was not encouraging people to bring legal action. ...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 778 c273GC (Link to this contribution)

I was not suggesting that the Minister was encouraging people to bring legal action. But he certa...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 c273GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as a lawyer and somebody who sympathises when somebody has a legitimate compliant, whic...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 c274GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth

21: Clause 11, page 10, line 17, at end insert—

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 cc274-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I turn to government Amendments 21, 22, 23 and 130, I shall make some introducto...

Lord Greaves | 778 c275GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these amendments are broadly welcome—I think. The devil will be in what the regulations...

Lord Beecham | 778 c275GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for enlightening me, if not other members of the Committe...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 c275GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for their participation in this debate. I thank the noble Lord, Lord Greaves,...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 cc275-6GC (Link to this contribution)

The provisional punch-up, yes. I will certainly seek to avoid that.

I have some sympathy wi...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 c276GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth

22: Clause 11, page 10, line 18, leave out from “...

Lord Beecham | 778 c276GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Beecham

24: After Clause 11, insert the following new Clause—

“Gu...

Lord Beecham | 778 cc276-7GC (Link to this contribution)

I am really disappointed: I thought we would have a long debate on the technical amendment replac...

Lord Shipley | 778 c277GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, in his amendment. I simply ask for the Minister...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 778 cc277-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I will make a couple of brief comments before the Minister responds, including one about payday l...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 cc278-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, for his amendment, and other noble Lords who part...

Lord Beecham | 778 cc279-280GC (Link to this contribution)

I am slightly disappointed with the Minister’s reply. The Government are not slow to offer guidan...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 c280GC (Link to this contribution)

I did not want to say that this was not an issue—that certainly was not my intention. I wanted to...

Lord Beecham | 778 c280GC (Link to this contribution)

If I had an ally at all, it would be the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Bristol.

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 778 c280GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Cameron of Dillington

25: After Clause 11, insert the following new Cla...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 778 cc281-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I should say that I tabled this very much as a probing amendment. We all agree t...

Baroness Pinnock | 778 cc282-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I am speaking on behalf of my noble friend Lady Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville, who is indispo...

Duke of Somerset | 778 c283GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when I first saw the amendment tabled by my noble friend Lord Cameron, I was not sure t...

Lord Beecham | 778 cc283-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise to the noble Lord for missing the first part of his speech moving the amend...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 cc284-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have participated in this part of the debate, and in particular...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 778 c285GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to all noble Lords who have taken part in the debate. As I said in opening, the ame...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 778 c285GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Gardner of Parkes

27: After Clause 11, insert the following new Cla...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 778 c286GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a simple amendment. As I understand it, the position at the moment is that loca...

Lord Judd | 778 c286GC (Link to this contribution)

I would like to say what a sensible amendment this is. It is impossible to overestimate the amoun...

Lord Taylor of Goss Moor | 778 cc286-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I shall speak to Amendment 27A standing in my name but, before doing so, I want to say that it mu...

Baroness Pinnock | 778 cc288-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak again on behalf of my noble friend Lady Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 778 c289GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree with my noble friend Lord Judd in saying what a sensible amendment this is, as ...

Lord Greaves | 778 cc289-290GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I obviously support both the amendments from my noble friends, particularly the one fro...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 778 c290GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Greaves, has reminded me, as a member of the planning committee in Lewisham,...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 cc290-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have participated in the discussion on these amendments. I shal...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 778 c292GC (Link to this contribution)

I certainly accept the point that the noble Lord makes. However, as with all these things, the va...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 778 cc292-4GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord makes a very fair point. However, we do not want to flex the legislation and exten...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 778 c294GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank all those who supported what I had to say. I do not think it is at all onerous for the go...

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