Scotland Bill
My Lords, on Wednesday night we had an hour-long debate on the role of the British Transport Poli...
Tabled by
Lord Empey
44: After Clause 43, insert the following new Clause—
“Ove...
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My Lords, this amendment was debated last week and I hope the Minister will reflect on the signif...
Moved by
Lord Dunlop
45: Clause 45, page 47, line 17, leave out subsection (5)
My Lords, Clause 44 devolves power to the Scottish Parliament for regulation of licences to searc...
My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 47 and others in this group which are in the name of my nobl...
My Lords, the noble and learned Lord, Lord Wallace, spoke to a number of these provisions when we...
Moved by
Viscount Younger of Leckie
46: Clause 45, page 47, leave out lines 24 to 33 ...
Tabled by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
47: After Clause 50, insert the following new Cl...
My Lords, in light of what the Minister said and his willingness to continue to engage and look a...
Moved by
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean
56ZA: Before Clause 13, insert the following new Cl...
My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 57AB, 57AC, 68, 68A and 68B standing in my name. Amend...
Some hope.
I tend to agree. I want to know how this will be calculated, how it will be enforced and what are...
My Lords, I have briefly to interrupt to give the following correction. The result of Division No...
My Lords, I shall speak to the amendment in this group in the name of my noble friend Lord Stephe...
Is it not clear throughout? Paragraph 52, regarding a dispute over the no-detriment principle, sa...
My Lords, I noted earlier, with regard to paragraph 103, that it surely cannot be conceivable tha...
I was hoping to follow the noble and learned Lord.
That is fine. I hope that the Minister will be able to fill in the gaps when he comes to reply to...
My Lords, I would like to pursue the points made by the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, and the noble a...
My Lords, we all slightly feeling our way in the dark in this debate, and that is very unfortunat...
My Lords, I said earlier that I considered the terms of the Smith commission to be effectively a ...
My understanding is that it is proposed that the Scottish Government will be able to borrow money...
I can say to the noble Lord that we raised several times with the Treasury the question of issuin...
My Lords, I can speak fairly briefly on this occasion because my noble friend Lord Forsyth put th...
My Lords, along with Burke, I have always believed fundamentally in representative parliamentary ...
My Lords, following my noble friend Lord Higgins, I add my support for my noble friend Lord Forsy...
My Amendment 67A is in a different group but, with respect, because it deals with the Barnett for...
It is intended.
Forgive me—yes. The document that talks about the unintended consequences is the House of Lords d...
My Lords, in view of the difficulties to which the noble and learned Lord has drawn our attention...
My Lords, that was my 14th point. My notes state that the arrangements for resolution of these di...
My Lords, I have been provoked to make a contribution arising out of the nature of the debate. I ...
My Lords, I want to come in on a similar theme and echo the earlier words of the noble and learne...
My Lords, I, too, am very concerned about the review provisions. The noble Lord, Lord MacGregor, ...
My Lords, we are in a mess. It is a very sad occasion when you get a situation like this where th...
Perhaps the noble Earl will permit me to ask him a brief question arising out of what he has said...
My Lords, having recently moved from Scotland to London, I will leave that to the noble and learn...
My Lords, I have a great deal of sympathy with the arguments put forward by my noble friend Lord ...
My Lords, after long negotiations we have arrived at an outcome that was pretty predictable. Scot...
My Lords, we have arrived at a rather unsatisfactory situation. We were given the fiscal framewor...
My Lords, even if one were dozing during this debate, there would be no doubt how the House felt ...
Speaking very much for the right hand of the Conservative Party, I think that perhaps the noble L...
My Lords, the noble Lord tells us nothing new. I looked at that issue as well. I think I made the...
I am most grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. We have had an extremely interesting debate ...
My Lords, I take the noble Lord’s point on that but right at the beginning of my speech I made re...
My Lords, it is fair to say that this has been a very wide-ranging debate and I thank all those w...
I entirely accept the Minister’s argument that if we were to move to a needs base, or whatever, t...
I am coming to that point. The idea that it would be easy or straightforward to replace the Barne...
Will the Minister take up the point I made earlier about an annual report on this issue to both H...
I am very happy to make that commitment. The Government intend to make an annual report to Parlia...
The noble Lord has indicated—and the agreement says—that the report has to be received by the end...
I am not sure I will be able to satisfy the noble and learned Lord on that point because I have l...
This is a matter of enormous importance. Would it not be absurd if the central part—the heart—of ...
My noble friend is of course quite right that the fiscal framework should receive detailed scruti...
I understood the Minister to say that the establishment of the Scottish Fiscal Commission will re...
I think I am right in saying that it does require this Parliament to establish the Scottish Fisca...
Presumably my noble friend is anticipating using the Henry VIII clause for that purpose. Can he j...
I am not sure that is what I am maintaining. The fiscal framework is available to this House and ...
My noble friend’s answer to the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth of Drumlean, beggars belief. The House o...
My Lords, perhaps I can deal with the point that in some way the Scottish Parliament and the UK P...
Did I understand my noble friend to say that this House and the other place will be able to debat...
I think that we are debating the fiscal framework at this moment. As to whether there will be deb...
I am sorry, but my point to my noble friend is this. The Scottish Parliament will decide whether ...
And of approving it.
Yes, it has the opportunity of approving it, whereas the House of Commons has not had the opportu...
That is a matter for the House of Commons; it is not a matter for the House of Lords. The House o...
It had absolutely no knowledge of what the state of play was on the fiscal framework and it ought...
That really is a matter for the House of Commons, and not for this House of Lords. That House has...
Will my noble friend allow me one more time?
I will give way one more time but throughout the passage of the Bill, I think that I have taken e...
We are all extremely grateful to my noble friend and very sympathetic to the position in which he...
For the reasons that I have explained, the Scottish Parliament is giving its legislative consent ...
My Lords, we have had a lengthy debate in which we have covered a lot of ground. However, a numbe...
I entirely take the point which is made about the later amendment, but I merely suggest to my nob...
I always listen very carefully to my noble friend. I therefore beg leave to test the opinion of t...
Moved by
Lord Dunlop
56A: Clause 13, page 16, line 14, at end insert—
“(17) Reg...
My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 56K, 56L, 71AB and 71AC which are tabled in my name. A...
My Lords, I strongly support Amendment 56L, produced by my noble friend. I consider the work of a...
My Lords, I am sorry that the Government were unable to adopt something more along the lines of m...
My Lords, I have added my name to my noble friend’s Amendment 56A. It would simply insert, at the...
I welcome Amendment 56K, which covers borrowing, on which I have tabled Amendment 57. I think tha...
My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 57ZA, which is purely a probing amendment that would have ...
I shall speak to Amendment 57A which seeks to create a new clause to ensure that the process lead...
My Lords, again a number of points have been raised and I shall try to address each in turn. If I...
Moved by
Lord McAvoy
56F: After Schedule 1, insert the following new Schedule—
...
This proposed new schedule on the joint committee on welfare devolution provides for an across-Pa...
My Lords, I have three amendments in my name in this group. I am
My Lords, I support what the noble Lord, Lord Kirkwood, has said. Even with the advantage of the ...
My Lords, I will speak briefly in support of Amendment 60, tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Kirkwoo...
My Lords, I thank the noble Lords, Lord McAvoy and Lord Kirkwood, for their amendments. I turn to...
Just in the interests of having all the information, is the Minister in a position to name some o...
For example, we have worked to build a strong relationship with the Convention of Scottish Local ...
Before my noble friend sits down, could he possibly answer the question I asked him about the wel...
We have agreed that welfare will be funded through the Barnett formula and that tax deductions wi...
Perhaps my noble friend could help me. Does that mean that if the Barnett formula model resulted ...
It means that if you look across the total Scottish budget, it would deliver the outcome that we ...
We welcome the further response about involving the principles that we have included in previous ...
Moved by
Lord Dunlop
56K: After Clause 19, insert the following new Clause—
“Bo...
Moved by
Lord Hope of Craighead
61: Clause 68, page 74, line 32, leave out “1, 3, 4, ...
My Lords, I have Amendments 61, 62, 63, 64 and 65 in this group. I tabled these amendments in Com...
My Lords, this is all complex, although perhaps not as overwhelmingly complex as the fiscal frame...
My Lords, I wanted to delete this clause entirely in Committee, and was persuaded that the approa...
Yet again, the noble Lord has got it wrong—it was me who said that. However, let us finish on a p...
I am obliged to your Lordships and particularly grateful to the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope...
Moved by
Lord Dunlop
62A: Clause 68, page 74, line 37, leave out “(whenever passed or...
Moved by
Lord Dunlop
62C: Clause 68, page 74, line 40, at end insert—
“( ) For ...
Moved by
Lord Dunlop
65A: Clause 68, page 75, line 14, after ““enactment”” insert “— ...
Moved by
Lord Dunlop
71A: Clause 69, page 75, line 37, at end insert—
“( ) sect...
Moved by
Lord Dunlop
71AB: Clause 69, page 75, line 43, at beginning insert “Section ...