Scotland Bill

My Lords, I am as disappointed as the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, that some of the points that were...

My Lords, Amendment 3 is in my name. I moved a similar amendment in Committee and expressed the h...

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 2, with that of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope...

My Lords, as the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope of Craighead, indicated, we had a very lengthy...

My Lords, I have simply one question to ask the Minister at this stage. Given the failure of the ...

My Lords, if I may follow the point just made by the noble Lord, Lord McCluskey, I said in Commit...

Is the noble Lord suggesting that we are all wasting our time?

Perish the thought of such an outrageous consideration, but I suspect that the Government will be...

My Lords, I certainly agree with the noble Lord, Lord Empey, that there is a lot of imperviosity ...

My Lords, for the removal of any doubt, I do not support any amendments in this group. But I am p...

My Lords, perhaps I may begin with a material concession. When the noble Lord, Lord Empey, referr...

Before the Minister moves on, may I ask just one question? In the earlier debate, I asked whether...

As I indicated, we are dealing with an entirely hypothetical situation. Should that situation eve...

Before the Minister sits down, I wonder whether he can help me on one point. I made it clear in C...

I am obliged to the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope of Craighead. It determines clearly and una...

Will my noble and learned friend deal with the point about the people of Scotland, as opposed to ...

I am obliged to my noble friend for reminding me of the question. As I said earlier, we are deali...

My Lords, I have come to the view that the noble Lord, Lord Empey, tactfully suggested—that we ar...

Moved by

Lord Hope of Craighead

7: Clause 2, page 2, leave out lines 5 to 7 and inser...

We return to Clause 2, and to a problem that cannot be dismissed as purely hypothetical. We are d...

My Lords, if Amendment 7 is agreed, I cannot call Amendments 8 to 12 inclusive by reason of pre-e...

My Lords, I hope the occupant of the Woolsack will not to have to do that because I very much hop...

My Lords, I need not repeat the arguments that the noble Lord, Lord Cormack, has put forward agai...

My Lords, I make it clear at the outset that we support the wording provided in his amendment by ...

My Lords, I would like to speak briefly to my Amendment 11, which would delete the words,

“...

Has the noble Lord thought of suggesting to the Minister that perhaps he could take an informal w...

Indeed, and there is another voice in support of the amendment tabled in the name of my noble fri...

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 7 in the name of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hop...

My Lords, I may be the only person present in the Chamber who was here when Lord Sewel issued the...

My Lords, some time ago I indicated to the noble and learned Lord, Lord McCluskey, that I support...

Does my noble and learned friend think that Amendment 7, which he says stretches the convention a...

What has become the convention now seems to be government papers. As far as I am concerned, I had...

Do I understand the noble and learned Lord correctly that, without choosing between them, there a...

I do not regard them as alternatives; rather that Amendment 12 tabled by the noble and learned Lo...

My Lords, the problem with the term “Sewel convention” itself seems to beg a question as to exact...

My Lords, I should say that if we get to the stage of putting this to a vote, I would like to sup...

My Lords, can the Advocate-General tell us whether the use of the word “normally” is to allow the...

My Lords, I will touch on a rather similar point to the one that the noble Lord, Lord Empey, just...

Would the noble Lord support this possible solution? There is quite some time between now and Thi...

I very much hope that the Government will give a serious, considered reply to the noble and learn...

My Lords, normally when the loyal Opposition hear valid and powerful arguments from many noble Lo...

I was puzzled by the noble and learned Lord’s assertion that he would be unable to support this b...

I appreciate that the ornithological reference might necessarily be unhelpful to the party that I...

I am extremely grateful to the genial noble and learned Lord, but is he really saying that if thi...

The noble Lord raises a matter that goes well beyond what I hoped we were going to be discussing....

Oh.

Oh, yes, he is. I hear observations that I am mischaracterising him, but no doubt the noble Lord,...

The noble Lord is basically saying that, albeit various people, not least the noble Lord, Lord No...

The noble and learned Lord wants to know whether I am correct in identifying a political imperati...

I appreciate that we are on Report, but when the noble Lord describes this as an innovation which...

I am slightly surprised that the noble Lord offers such support for this amendment. I will explai...

I am attempting to follow the noble Lord down the tortuous passes of his philosophical musings, b...

There is a view, of course, that the Supreme Court is developing a constitutional role and that t...

I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord. Will he just come to the point and meet the point th...

The suggestion that I am waffling is one that I do not find wholly offensive.

The noble and learned Lord asked whether he had dealt with all the issues. He has not dealt with ...

I shall finish answering the noble Lord, Lord Tebbit, before I come to the interesting point made...

My Lords, to pick up the noble and learned Lord on that point, I think he is suggesting that a Pe...

I feel that genies should not come out of their bottles; they should probably stay in their lamps...

The noble and learned Lord has made many points but I think he would accept that there is very wi...

I consider that it has never been the role of the loyal Opposition to increase the wisdom of Memb...

Before the noble and learned Lord sits down, could it be that the political imperative is that he...

Sorry, who is the Chief Whip in the other place? I am afraid it is not a man or woman I have ever...

Perhaps I can help the noble and learned Lord because his Whips’ Office told my party’s Whips’ Of...

As every Member of this House—every noble Lord, every noble Baroness—who has spent any time in th...

My Lords, I believe that the House is ready to hear from the Minister.

I can say that the Whip did not consult me on that proposition.

I am grateful for the detai...

What about Lord Cormack?

I will come to that in a moment because normally I would come to “normally” when I am addressing ...

Does the Minister accept that since 1999 the practice has been that if there is a proposal to alt...

I cannot accept that because of the language employed. It was not the convention that dictated th...

I am listening very carefully to my noble and learned friend and basically he is saying that the ...

I am obliged to my noble friend for his invitation. I refer to the recommendation of the Smith co...

That is a novelty.

Given the noble Lord’s invitation to ignore it, it is more than a novelty; it is rather generous....

I had not intended to interrupt until I heard the noble and learned Lord just now. Since the doct...

I am obliged to the noble Lord. I would suggest that it is a moot issue because there have been o...

Then why does the Minister not simply accept Amendment 12, which says that,

“the decision a...

I am obliged to the noble and learned Lord and I can express it only in these terms. It is the Go...

The Minister says that the Government think that it is implicit in the clause. What is the proble...

I note the observations of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Wallace, but I can observe only that ...

My Lords, I am extremely grateful to all those noble and learned and noble Lords who have support...

Tabled by

Lord Wallace of Tankerness

13: Clause 2, page 2, line 7, at end insert—

My Lords, with the same observation that the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope of Craighead, made...

Moved by

The Earl of Dundee

14: After Clause 2, insert the following new Clause—

My Lords, this amendment would enable annual reports after the enactment of the Bill. These would...

My Lords, as we move on to this next amendment, I hope your Lordships will agree that it is appro...

I thank the Minister for giving way. I am really glad that I was in when he said that, because I ...

My Lords, my clear understanding is that no undertaking was given whatever on that basis. We rema...

Perhaps I could clarify the situation. As I understood it, when those remarks were made, we were ...

Further to that point, perhaps the noble Viscount could confirm that that is the position. To be ...

My noble friend Lord Dunlop did indeed refer to discussions that might be taking places among the...

I did actually ask my noble friend to give us an assurance that, as far as Monday is concerned, t...

I cannot as yet give an assurance on that. The rules on Report remain in place for today.

My Lords, whether or not any undertaking has been given up to now, it is painfully obvious that w...

This is duplicity by the Government, and it really needs to be sorted out. I have been sitting qu...

Will the noble Lord give way? I had hoped to be able to discuss this in an orderly fashion, and I...

I do not think my noble friend was in the Chamber when this discussion began. The issue was not w...

I am sorry: did I not make that clear? Although there will be no formal resolution to this effect...

As the person who initially raised it, and as one of the usual troublemakers, I fully accept what...

That is very good news.

I thank the noble Earl, Lord Dundee, for allowing me to add my name...

My Lords, I support the amendment in the names of my noble friend the Earl of Dundee and the nobl...

My Lords, I shall speak briefly to support the spirit of the amendment in the names of the noble ...

My Lords, I very much support the amendment introduced and moved so ably by my noble friend. It i...

My Lords, I repeat briefly the support that I gave these proposals in Committee. The noble Earls,...

My Lords, I, too, on behalf of the Labour Party, would like to record our support for the princip...

I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken, and in particular to my noble friend Lord Dunde...

My Lords, I am very grateful to all those who have contributed to this debate. To summarise, ther...

Moved by

Lord Keen of Elie

15: Clause 3, page 2, leave out lines 17 and 18 and insert...

My Lords, I shall first address Amendments 15 to 21. Under the Bill, and in line with the Smith c...

My Lords, I think I should thank the noble and learned Lord the Advocate-General for Scotland for...

My Lords, I am glad that these amendments have been made. Of course, I understand that they will ...

My Lords, we agree with the Government on this very sensible measure. We appreciate the minor and...

I am obliged to noble and learned Lords for their contributions.

Moved by

Lord Keen of Elie

16: Clause 3, page 3, leave out line 35 and insert—

...

Moved by

Lord Dunlop

17: Clause 5, page 5, line 27, leave out “from the words” and in...

Moved by

Lord Dunlop

19: Clause 10, page 11, line 29, at end insert “and (2C) (date o...

Moved by

Lord Dunlop

23: Clause 11, page 12, line 33, after “decided” insert “on”

My Lords, I beg to move that further consideration on Report be now adjourned. In doing so, I sug...

My Lords, it would be to the benefit of the House in the conduct and progress of business if we m...

I believe that it is right that we should adjourn the House, with the agreement of the House, unt...

My Lords, I think we should just keep going since we are in the swing.

With the agreement of the House, let us move on to the next amendment.

7.30 pm

Amendm...

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Tankerness

28: Clause 34, page 35, line 29, at end insert—