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Immigration Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Monday, 1 February 2016, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage (third day, part three). Schedule 7, as amended, agreed to.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
768 cc1674-1712 
Session
2015-16
Department
Home Office
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Immigration Bill 2015-16. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 2 December 2015
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2016-0096
Wednesday, 3 February 2016
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2016-0237
Tuesday, 23 February 2016
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Rosser | 768 c1675 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Rosser

216: After Clause 32, insert the following new Clause—

“Re...

Lord Rosser | 768 cc1675-8 (Link to this contribution)

Our Amendment 216 in the form of a new clause provides for an independently chaired report on imm...


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Lord Ramsbotham | 768 cc1679-1682 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before speaking to the amendments in my name and those of the noble Baronesses, Lady Ha...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 cc1681-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, were my noble friend Lord Avebury able to be here, I think he, too, would have started ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 768 cc1683-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to support the various amendments in this group, focused in particular on the ca...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 768 cc1684-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Lister, for using one word especially—the word “hope”....

Lord Dubs | 768 cc1686-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the thrust of these amendments. I shall refer to two or three specific points...

Lord Hylton | 768 c1687 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, at Second Reading I said that indefinite detention without charge was completely repugn...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 768 cc1687-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will briefly intervene to support the speeches that have been made thus far in favour...

Lord Stunell | 768 cc1688-1690 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this run of amendments. I do so not with a lot of expertise but with real puz...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c1690 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I find myself once again in a minority of one in the Committee, but I am reassured that...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 768 c1690 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, given that my noble friend has placed a great deal of reliance on public opinion and ho...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c1691 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I certainly agree that detention is a very expensive business in all circumstances; that is ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 768 c1691 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure whether the noble Lord has read the report of the inquiry to which a number of us c...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c1691 (Link to this contribution)

Yes indeed, but I would imagine that the conditions are very different in Hong Kong and to a cert...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 cc1691-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this may be the last intervention, before the noble Lord sits down—again, using the lan...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c1692 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness’s point is rather similar to the point she made about bail earlier in the deba...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c1692 (Link to this contribution)

Does that include those who have sought asylum but whose claim has not been determined?

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c1692 (Link to this contribution)

Not when I use the term, and I do not think that it applies to those people. It applies to those ...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c1692 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether I might, as it were, intervene at this point. I was obliged for the contribution...

Lord Stunell | 768 c1692 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for giving way, and of course he is absolutely right. I am very proud of the...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 cc1692-4 (Link to this contribution)

One of the points that noble Lord referred to, and which was referred to also by the noble Lord, ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 768 c1695 (Link to this contribution)

I may be pre-empting what the noble and learned Lord is about to say. However, Stephen Shaw is ve...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c1695 (Link to this contribution)

The present published guidance means that we do not, and should not, detain pregnant women except...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 768 c1695 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to press this. I accept that it is a matter of guidance. We put it in an amendment to ...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c1695 (Link to this contribution)

The clearest answer I can give is that it is a matter for consideration at present by Ministers. ...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 768 c1695 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble and learned Lord, Lord Keen, has probably exhausted that line of argument for...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 cc1695-6 (Link to this contribution)

I am perfectly happy to write to noble Lords to give the figures for the number of pregnant women...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 768 c1696 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to intervene again, but “indefinite” does not mean that people are there for ever. It ...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c1697 (Link to this contribution)

With respect, it is not possible to say to somebody that they will be in detention for X period i...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 768 c1697 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister tell me in what circumstances that was suspended? Was it not because of a High C...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 cc1697-8 (Link to this contribution)

There was, among other things, a determination as to the legality of the process. I accept that—b...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 cc1698-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the noble Lord, Lord Rosser, responds, the picture that has been painted of the ...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c1699 (Link to this contribution)

May I give one example of how this arises? There are some countries that require an interview wit...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c1699 (Link to this contribution)

I am not quite sure how that fits in with what I was saying. I am certainly not arguing that ther...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 768 c1699 (Link to this contribution)

If the noble Baroness will allow me, one thing that does not seem to have been referred to in the...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c1699 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed, and the sentence before the one which I quoted referred to a system,

“both … more p...

Lord Rosser | 768 cc1699-1700 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure the Committee will be relieved to know that I do not intend to say a great deal but, fi...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c1700 (Link to this contribution)

I believe that I did observe that we accept the broad thrust of his recommendations. At this stag...

Lord Rosser | 768 c1700 (Link to this contribution)

That comes back to the point that the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, made about this legislation in...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c1700 (Link to this contribution)

With great respect, one could ask about one out of 64,000. It is not a question of which one but ...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c1701 (Link to this contribution)

I suspect that the noble Lord may be coming towards a halt, if not to the end of the issue. It oc...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c1701 (Link to this contribution)

Well, I do not think the question was answered. Has the Minister any news about that? I appreciat...

Lord Rosser | 768 c1701 (Link to this contribution)

The reason for asking about recommendation 62 was that the Minister sought to tell us there was n...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c1701 (Link to this contribution)

There could well be a secret review, but in so far as there is an ongoing review, we will write t...

Lord Rosser | 768 c1701 (Link to this contribution)

Is the purpose of the Home Office internal review to decide whether to accept any or all of the S...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c1701 (Link to this contribution)

There is an internal review, and I have already indicated that we will set out the position in wr...

Lord Rosser | 768 c1701 (Link to this contribution)

That is a very interesting reply; the Minister is not prepared to tell me what the purpose of the...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c1702 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

224A: Schedule 7, page 106, line 16, leave out “may” and ins...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c1702 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a shorter group. Amendments 224A, 224B, 224C and 224D are in my name and that o...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 cc1702-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am obliged to the noble Baroness. As she observed, Amendments 224A and 224B would create a duty...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c1703 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply. It seems that whether the amendments are necessary...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 cc1703-5 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Keen of Elie

224E: Schedule 7, page 109, line 4, at end insert—

“...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c1705 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

225: Clause 33, page 38, line 31, after “a” insert “material...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c1705 (Link to this contribution)

In moving Amendment 225, I shall speak also to Amendment 226, which takes us on to the next claus...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 cc1705-6 (Link to this contribution)

I am obliged to the noble Baroness. As she observes, Amendment 225 seeks to change the wording of...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c1706 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I did not disbelieve the noble and learned Lord when he said that there was case law on...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c1707 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

226A: After Clause 33, insert the following new Clause—

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Baroness Hamwee | 768 c1707 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise to the House; if any noble Lords have tried to follow my drafting, they may...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c1708 (Link to this contribution)

I am obliged to the noble Baroness. Just to be clear, if I were to take the black letter of her a...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 768 cc1708-9 (Link to this contribution)

I would be grateful if I could ask him something about these lists—whether the Government accept ...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c1709 (Link to this contribution)

I notice what the noble Lord says and I do not take issue with it. I add only that, where an indi...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c1709 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his response. Jamaica is indeed an example, and maybe the Demo...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c1709 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

226C: After Clause 33, insert the following new Clause—

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Baroness Hamwee | 768 cc1709-1710 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg to move Amendment 226C standing in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Walla...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 cc1710-1 (Link to this contribution)

Again, I am obliged to the noble Baroness for highlighting this point. The new clause would requi...

Lord Rosser | 768 c1711 (Link to this contribution)

How many people should have registered under this arrangement in 2014, or any other year that the...

Lord Keen of Elie | 768 c1711 (Link to this contribution)

I am obliged to the noble Lord for his three questions and I will write in response to provide th...

Lord Rosser | 768 c1712 (Link to this contribution)

It was not, but I am grateful to the Minister for his response.

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c1712 (Link to this contribution)

When the Minister writes, will he explain what he described to me to be functions of UK Visas and...

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