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Lords committee stage second day. Schedules 1, 2, and 3 agreed to as amended. Clause 11 agreed to as amended. Clause 12 agreed to. Part 1 of 2.
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2015-16
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Immigration Bill 2015-16. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 2 December 2015
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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee seventeenth report.
Wednesday, 16 December 2015
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Immigration Bill. Constitution Committee (HL) seventh report.
Monday, 21 December 2015
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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee eighteenth report.
Thursday, 14 January 2016
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Wednesday, 20 January 2016
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Thursday, 28 January 2016
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Bates | 768 cc782-8 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Bates

73: Before Schedule 1, insert the following new Schedule—

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Lord Bates | 768 cc789-792 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Bates

77: Before Schedule 1, insert the following new Schedule—

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Baroness Hamwee | 768 c792 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Hamwee

78: Schedule 1, page 55, leave out lines 4 to 28

Baroness Hamwee | 768 cc792-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Paddick and I have Amendments 78 to 91 in this group, in which the...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 768 c794 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support what might be seen as the rather technical points raised by the noble Barones...

Earl of Sandwich | 768 c794 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendments 78 and 79, which would remove the Secretary of State’s power. It i...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 768 cc794-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendments in this group are in the names of the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, and t...

Lord Bates | 768 cc795-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for speaking to her amendments. Before coming to the questio...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c796 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to noble Lords who have spoken in support of my amendments. I have to say that my t...

Lord Bates | 768 c796 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

92: Schedule 1, page 67, line 10, at end insert “pursuant to an a...

Lord Bates | 768 c796 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Bates

94: Clause 11, page 8, line 6, leave out subsections (2) to (5)

Lord Bates | 768 cc796-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to government Amendments 95 to 99, 102 to 104, 107 to 116, 118 and 1...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 cc798-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a number of amendments in this group; most of them are amendments to the governm...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 768 cc799-800 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group comprises a large group of government amendments in the name of the noble Lo...

Lord Bates | 768 c800 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I understand the nature of the amendments and I understand them better now that the nob...

Lord Bates | 768 c801 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

95: Schedule 2, page 67, line 23, at end insert—

“London Ha...

Lord Bates | 768 cc801-6 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Bates

99: Schedule 2, page 69, line 3, at end insert—

“Plymouth C...

Lord Bates | 768 c806 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move.

Amendment 99A (to Amendment 99)

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c806 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

99A: Schedule 2, line 119, leave out “or before”

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c806 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with the leave of House, perhaps I may respond to some points made by the Minister on t...

Lord Bates | 768 c807 (Link to this contribution)

To clarify for the noble Baroness, I understand her point. My understanding is that what we are s...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c807 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think I follow that—but what if the application for leave has initially been turned d...

Lord Bates | 768 c807 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to give that undertaking to the noble Baroness.

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c807 (Link to this contribution)

I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Lord Bates | 768 c807 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Bates

102: Schedule 2, page 70, line 12, at end insert—

“(6A) If ...

Lord Bates | 768 cc808-9 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

107: Schedule 2, page 71, line 22, at end insert—

“(5A) If ...

Lord Bates | 768 cc809-812 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Bates

118: Schedule 2, page 74, line 4, at end insert—

“Civic Gov...

Lord Bates | 768 c812 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

119: Schedule 2, page 74, line 4, at end insert—

“Road Traf...

Lord Bates | 768 c812 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Bates

123: Schedule 2, page 75, line 18, at end insert—

“(8) The ...

Lord Bates | 768 cc812-3 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Bates

127: Schedule 2, page 76, line 21, at end insert—

“(8) The ...

Lord Bates | 768 cc813-7 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

131: Schedule 2, page 78, line 23, at end insert—

“Taxis Ac...

Lord Bates | 768 cc817-8 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Bates

132: Schedule 2, page 78, line 23, at end insert—

“Transiti...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 cc818-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Paddick and I do not wish to see Clause 12 stand part of the Bill....

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 cc819-820 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it might be helpful for noble Lords if I speak now to the government amendments to expl...

Baroness Fookes | 768 c820 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, at the risk of being a pedant, I point out that, strictly, these amendments are not mov...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 c820 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise. I speak to the amendments.

Baroness Ludford | 768 c821 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I react with as much puzzlement to the Minister calling the government amendments “tech...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 cc821-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the two noble Baronesses who have spoken. I start by making the general point t...

Lord Lucas | 768 c824 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I might ask my noble friend a couple of questions. He said several times that t...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 cc824-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in answer to the first question, the whole point is that it is not just sub-paragraph (...

Lord Lucas | 768 c825 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when paragraph 1(11) says,

“An illegal working closure notice may be issued only ...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 c825 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are talking about illegal working by illegal immigrants. It is just a question of wh...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c825 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that is exactly the point about the written words matching the oral words which has bee...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 c825 (Link to this contribution)

I think that the noble Baroness has made my point for me. If there is a civil penalty and busines...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c826 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not suggesting that the Minister is misrepresenting the Government’s intention. I ...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 c826 (Link to this contribution)

Is the noble Baroness saying that if you do not pay a civil penalty for 15 years, you should get ...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c826 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if you can—in the Minister’s words—get away with a conviction because of the Rehabilita...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 c826 (Link to this contribution)

I do understand, and it might be appropriate to continue this discussion between ourselves later,...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c826 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not wish to continue that bit of the discussion, but perhaps I might put into a fu...

Lord Rosser | 768 c826 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Rosser

133: After Clause 12, insert the following new Clause—

“Pr...

Lord Rosser | 768 cc827-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are two amendments in this group, one in my name and in the names of my noble fri...

Lord Hylton | 768 cc828-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 134B, which is in my name. Last year, on what became the Mode...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 768 cc829-831 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to support Amendment 133, moved by the noble Lord, Lord Rosser, and to say a wor...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 cc830-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have my name to the first of this pair of amendments, but I congratulate the noble Lo...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 cc832-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I share the condemnation of domestic slavery, which I am sure is shared by all Members ...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 768 cc833-4 (Link to this contribution)

First, I shall clarify the figure that the noble Lord asked about. It is the figure quoted in the...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c834 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I quite see that. I would expect the people whom the noble Lord quoted to say what they said...

Lord Hylton | 768 c834 (Link to this contribution)

But does the noble Lord agree that they cannot come without visas?

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c834 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that I understand the noble Lord’s point.

Baroness Hamwee | 768 c834 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that my question to the noble Lord may be the same as that asked by the noble L...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c834 (Link to this contribution)

Well, they come in on a tied visa and then they do a runner and go and work for somebody else. Th...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 768 cc834-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope that we are not moving from waiting for Ewins to looking for loopholes. I was a ...

Earl of Sandwich | 768 c835 (Link to this contribution)

I add one more voice from these Benches in support of the amendment. My noble friend Lord Hylton ...

Lord Bates | 768 cc835-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lords, Lord Rosser and Lord Hylton, for tabling these amendm...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 768 c837 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, I would be grateful if he would clarify the nature of the process ...

Lord Bates | 768 cc837-9 (Link to this contribution)

I will certainly give an undertaking to go away and reflect on the point that the noble Lord make...

Lord Rosser | 768 c839 (Link to this contribution)

Before I respond to the suggestion that the Minister has made, I take it from what he has said th...

Lord Bates | 768 c839 (Link to this contribution)

Were it the case that we did not accept that there was any correlation with the visa tie, we woul...

Lord Rosser | 768 c839 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that response. I also sense from his comments that the Independent Anti-...

Lord Bates | 768 c839 (Link to this contribution)

The anti-slavery commissioner, Kevin Hyland, is independent, and thoroughly and robustly defends ...

Lord Rosser | 768 cc839-840 (Link to this contribution)

I think there will be a degree of disappointment at the response we have had from the Minister to...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 768 c840 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kennedy of Southwark

134: After Clause 12, insert the following new Cla...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 768 cc840-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 134 in my name and those of my noble friend Lord Rosser, the noble Baroness, ...

Baroness Hamwee | 768 cc841-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Lord has said, my name is to this amendment. I am particularly delighted t...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 768 cc842-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in supporting the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy of Southwark, and sup...

Bishop of Southwark | 768 cc843-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 134, which I wish to support, is simple, just and proportionate in its aims. ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 768 cc845-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am pleased to be able to speak in support of the amendment tabled by my noble friends...

Baroness Ludford | 768 c846 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, welcome the support of the Labour Party and its conversion to this cause. It is hugely im...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 768 c847 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I welcome all those who now support so vigorously and enthusiastically the right...

Earl of Sandwich | 768 cc847-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am always heartened by the words of the noble Lord, Lord Roberts. I remember one rath...

Lord Ramsbotham | 768 c848 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, until seven years ago, I thought that Red Cross food parcels were handed out only to Br...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 cc848-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that I may find myself in a small minority in this Committee, although, I have ...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 768 c849 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord referred to the position in most of the European Union where people have to wait f...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c849 (Link to this contribution)

No. I am saying that we should keep it at 12 months in order that we are not more attractive than...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 768 c849 (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 134A in the names of the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, and the noble Lord, Lord Paddick,...

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c849 (Link to this contribution)

The short answer is no. We have an asylum system which does not work as fast as people would like...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 cc849-850 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an emotive issue. As the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, said, these are not new a...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 768 c850 (Link to this contribution)

Did the Minister listen to the employment statistics announced by one of our Ministers three week...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 c850 (Link to this contribution)

I am not aware of those statistics, but I will take a look at them.

Lord Green of Deddington | 768 c850 (Link to this contribution)

There are about 600,000 vacancies in the UK, and there always are. It is frictional unemployment....

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 cc850-2 (Link to this contribution)

We will come to employment in a moment.

It is important that we protect the resident labour...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 768 c852 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in response to the comments made by the noble Lord, Lord Alton of Liverpool, the Minist...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 c852 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree that it is an important point and I will be happy to the write to the noble Lo...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 768 c852 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for his response to the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy. Can he be clear i...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 768 c853 (Link to this contribution)

I take the point from the noble Lord, and that is why it would be better if our response was writ...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 768 c853 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in the debate. When applications for asylum tak...

Lord Hylton | 768 c853 (Link to this contribution)

Tabled by

Lord Hylton

134B: After Clause 12, insert the following new Clause—

“...

Lord Hylton | 768 c854 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to confirm that I only spoke to my amendment and did not move it, but in doing s...

Lord Bates | 768 c854 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

136: Schedule 3, page 81, line 8, after “if” insert “—

(a) ...

Lord Bates | 768 c854 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

147: Schedule 3, page 87, line 7, leave out sub-paragraph (4)

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