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Deregulation Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 3 February 2015, in the House of Lords.
Lords report stage first day. Part 1 of 2. Lords amendment 3 to Clause 2 disagreed on division (190 to 259). Lords amendment 4 to Clause 11 disagreed on division (191 to 235). New clauses (Lords amendments 7 and 20) debated and withdrawn. Some amendments made.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
759 cc544-612 
Session
2014-15
Department
Cabinet Office
Legislative stage
Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Deregulation Bill 2013-14 to 2014-15. Brought from the Commons.
Tuesday, 24 June 2014
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2015-0234
Tuesday, 24 February 2015
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2015-0232
Tuesday, 24 February 2015
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 759 c544 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

1: Clause 1, page 1, line 6, leave out subsection (2)...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 759 cc544-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 1, I shall speak also to Amendment 2. The purpose of these amendmen...


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Baroness Donaghy | 759 c547 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is important to place on the record and clarify some of the misunderstandings that t...

Lord Lea of Crondall | 759 cc547-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is very noticeable that when people such as those from the Federation of Small Busin...

Lord Jordan | 759 cc548-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974 transformed the safety landscape for all pe...

Earl of Lindsay | 759 cc549-550 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I should declare an interest as being the chairman of the United Kingdom Accreditation ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 759 cc550-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this clause has emerged out of a series of consultations during the past four years. As...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 759 c551 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords who contributed to this short debate. My noble friend Lady Donaghy ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 759 c551 (Link to this contribution)

I should point out that the first consultation did not provide much support for the noble Lord’s ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 759 cc551-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure that the noble Lord’s assertion about the first consultation not supporting our pos...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 759 c553 (Link to this contribution)

I only had a chance to read the consultation document on Friday and we are at a very early stage ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 759 c553 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that—and I meant Third Reading, of course, not Report. Is the noble Lord saying...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 759 c553 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, of course I am very happy to discuss this between now and Third Reading. I am not in a ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 759 c553 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not quite sure why the Government are so pressed on this matter because that consu...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 759 c554 (Link to this contribution)

I recognise what the noble Lord is asking me to do. At this stage, I am afraid I cannot give him ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 759 c554 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is not making it easy. I know it is not his job to make it easy. We are trying to se...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 759 c554 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the clerks are nodding. That suggests it would entirely open after consultation for the...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 759 c554 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister and to the clerks for nodding, in which case I beg leave to withdra...

Lord Low of Dalston | 759 c554 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Low of Dalston

3: Clause 2, page 2, leave out lines 15 to 21 and insert...

Lord Low of Dalston | 759 cc554-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall move Amendment 3—which is in my name and the names of the noble Lords, Lord Les...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 759 cc557-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare my interest as vice-chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Equalities ...

Lord Beecham | 759 c558 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I endorse very warmly the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Low, and suppo...

Baroness Thornton | 759 cc558-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is very nice to be back discussing equalities matters opposite the noble Lord, Lord ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 759 cc559-561 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister is not going to take this amendment away and come back. It is a very kind ...

Lord Low of Dalston | 759 cc561-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his reply and I am grateful to all those who have spo...

Baroness Thornton | 759 c562 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Thornton

4: Clause 11, page 8, line 22, at end insert—

“(e) t...

Baroness Thornton | 759 cc562-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these two amendments are both modest and simple. They concern consumer rights and custo...

Lord Deben | 759 c568 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is in the knowledge of this House that I very often find myself on the same side as ...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 759 cc568-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not think that the noble Lord lives in the same world that I do, where many people...

Lord Skelmersdale | 759 c569 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I regret that the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton, has not split this amendment into two ...

Lord Skelmersdale | 759 cc569-570 (Link to this contribution)

Breckland, I apologise: the west, shall we say.

On occasions, I use taxis. I ring up—someti...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 759 c570 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Deben, in his stirring defence of the market and its role as a sol...

Lord Deben | 759 c570 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree with the noble Lord. The point I am trying to make is that the very issue he is ...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 759 cc570-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, in his intervention, has made precisely the point I wanted to go into—t...

Viscount Ridley | 759 cc571-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have great sympathy with what the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton, said about the need ...

Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 759 c572 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I understand the good sense of legislation taking account of the modern digital world i...

Baroness Kramer | 759 cc572-3 (Link to this contribution)

For a moment, I thought your Lordships would have a very enjoyable debate with no opportunity for...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 759 c573 (Link to this contribution)

Can I just ask the Minister an honest question of clarification? In this age of technology, why c...

Baroness Kramer | 759 cc573-4 (Link to this contribution)

Let me move on to exactly that issue because it refers to the first part of Amendment 4. We looke...

Baroness Thornton | 759 cc574-5 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness keeps saying that there is no problem here. Why then, for example, do the stud...

Baroness Kramer | 759 c575 (Link to this contribution)

I point out to the noble Baroness that she is describing a situation that exists today. I cannot ...

Baroness Thornton | 759 c575 (Link to this contribution)

These student unions are concerned about the safety of their students—that is their issue. The no...

Baroness Kramer | 759 c575 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely accept that safety has to be the primary issue. I make the argument that you could s...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 759 c575 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Baroness sits down, can she just explain to the House clearly why the Government...

Baroness Kramer | 759 c575 (Link to this contribution)

I thought that I had explained that, but I will repeat it very quickly. Obviously, we are working...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 759 c576 (Link to this contribution)

So the Government have the Law Commission’s report at this stage?

Baroness Kramer | 759 c576 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but I feel as if I am constantly bobbing up and down. Yes—we are preparing our respon...

Baroness Thornton | 759 c576 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for this debate and for all their contributions. I agree with the noble Lord,...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 759 c576 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

6: Clause 17, page 12, leave out line 6

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 759 cc580-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Government’s new partial authorisation for insolvency practitioners would split the...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 759 cc581-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness for tabling this amendment. We have debated this ma...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 759 cc583-5 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble and learned Lord for that response and for the meeting with representatives of ...

Baroness Byford | 759 c585 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Byford

7: After Clause 23, insert the following new Clause—

“...

Baroness Byford | 759 cc585-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I should remind noble Lords of my farming interests, that I am a member of the CLA, and...

Lord Skelmersdale | 759 cc586-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as my noble friend Lady Byford said, my Amendment 12 has been grouped with her Amendmen...

Earl Cathcart | 759 c588 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I spoke in Committee in support of the amendments in the name of my noble friend and I ...

Lord Grantchester | 759 c589 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, legislation on public rights of way is complex, often archaic and certainly plentiful. ...

Lord De Mauley | 759 cc589-590 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, like my noble friend Lady Byford and the noble Lord, Lord Grantchester, I declare an in...

Lord Spicer | 759 c590 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for giving way. The problem with this is that we have been hearing it for 40...

Lord De Mauley | 759 c591 (Link to this contribution)

I understand my noble friend’s point, but I hope he would be prepared to give the provisions in t...

Lord Skelmersdale | 759 c591 (Link to this contribution)

Will my noble friend give way? I thought, or at least I hoped, that I had made it quite clear tha...

Lord De Mauley | 759 cc591-3 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend makes a fair point.

It has been clear throughout the Bill’s passage that Pa...

Baroness Byford | 759 c593 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, although I am grateful to my noble friend for his full response to my Amendment 7 and f...

Lord De Mauley | 759 c593 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

8: Clause 25, page 22, line 32, leave out “or (3)(b)” and ins...

Lord De Mauley | 759 c594 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Government Amendments 8, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14 and 15 in this group are minor and technical...

Lord Bradshaw | 759 cc594-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the problem we are trying to deal with is the unauthorised use of green lanes by 4x4 ve...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 759 cc595-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 17. I declare an interest as a farmer in Somerset wit...

Lord Skelmersdale | 759 c596 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I understand the rationale behind what the two noble Lords have said on the amendment b...

Lord Judd | 759 cc596-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very strongly support Amendment 17. I thank the noble Lord, Lord Bradshaw, for puttin...

Baroness Byford | 759 cc597-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will add a few words on this amendment, because it is at the very heart of enjoyment ...

Lord Skelmersdale | 759 c598 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, would my noble friend accept another thought? As she said, she is a farmer but not a fa...

Baroness Byford | 759 c598 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed. I am so sorry I did not include quad bikes; they are a normal sort of motor vehicle that ...

Lord Grantchester | 759 cc598-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the stakeholder working group is to be commended on finding and building consensus arou...

Lord De Mauley | 759 cc599-600 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in what is an understandably contentious debate about the recreational use of motor veh...

Lord Bradshaw | 759 c600 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for what he has said, but what was missing was the question of what happens—...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 759 c600 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is my noble friend Lord De Mauley’s amendment that leads this group, so I rather thi...

Lord De Mauley | 759 c600 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

9: Schedule 7, page 118, line 38, leave out from beginning to...

Lord De Mauley | 759 cc600-1 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

13: Schedule 7, page 138, line 19, leave out “modifications” ...

Lord De Mauley | 759 c601 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

15: Schedule 7, page 138, line 42, at end insert—

“( ) ...

Baroness Hanham | 759 c601 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hanham

18: Clause 44, page 37, leave out lines 28 and 29

Baroness Hanham | 759 cc601-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 19 and in doing so remind the House that I am co-presid...

Lord Tope | 759 c603 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend Lady Hanham very strongly and very warmly. I have no particul...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 759 cc603-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, like the noble Lord, Lord Tope, I do not have any current London government interests t...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 759 c605 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I can be brief because of the powerful arguments made this evening by the noble Barones...

Lord De Mauley | 759 cc605-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I believe that there is broad political consensus that Clause 44 is needed to introduce...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 759 c606 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister tell us how many instances of the cases he has described have led to action unde...

Lord De Mauley | 759 cc606-7 (Link to this contribution)

I am quite happy to do that. If I cannot do so during this debate, I will let the noble Lord know...

Lord Tope | 759 c607 (Link to this contribution)

Is the Minister able to answer the question that the noble Lord, Lord Harris, put to him about th...

Baroness Hanham | 759 c607 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I originally put the question to my noble friend of whether he would be prepared to mee...

Baroness Thornton | 759 cc607-8 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Thornton

20: After Clause 52, insert the following new Clause—

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Baroness Thornton | 759 cc608-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as we know, with this Bill we move from waste to education to farms to taxis and now to...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 759 cc609-610 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Government have been, and continue to be, supportive of the broad aims of partnersh...

Baroness Thornton | 759 c610 (Link to this contribution)

Why does adding provident societies to the sort of business forms that schools can have in legisl...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 759 c611 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have been open to discussion and we are still open to continuing discussion on what ...

Baroness Thornton | 759 c611 (Link to this contribution)

Would the Minister like to tell me exactly where in the legislation creating academies it says th...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 759 c611 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I take the point that the legislation does not specifically say that. I was in the proc...

Baroness Thornton | 759 c611 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister. I know that he is sympathetic. Indeed, we shop at the same Co-operative sto...

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