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Pension Schemes Bill

Lords committee stage first day. Clauses 1 to 38 agreed to, with clauses 32 and 37 agreed to as amended. (Part 1 of 2.)
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
758 cc361-407 
Session
2014-15
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Pension Schemes Bill 2014-15. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 26 November 2014
Bills
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee twelfth report.
Wednesday, 17 December 2014
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2015-0048
Thursday, 15 January 2015
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Bradley | 758 c361 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bradley

1: After Clause 7, insert the following new Clause—

“Decu...

Lord Bradley | 758 cc361-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, decumulation is the process of converting pension savings into retirement income. I hop...


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Baroness Drake | 758 c363 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have some sympathy with the thrust of Amendment 1, under which my noble friend seeks ...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 cc363-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in opening for the Government on this, I welcome the comments of the noble Lord, Lord B...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 758 c365 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, can I probe the Minister on his response? It seemed that he was praying in aid the guid...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 c366 (Link to this contribution)

If I might first take the noble Lord up on one point, what is being proposed by the noble Lord, L...

Baroness Drake | 758 c366 (Link to this contribution)

If I may presume to comment on my noble friend’s amendment, the Minister made the comment that it...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 c366 (Link to this contribution)

I take the point that the noble Baroness, Lady Drake, is making on this issue, but it is clear th...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 758 c367 (Link to this contribution)

If I may come back on that point, setting out the options available on retirement is one thing, b...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 c367 (Link to this contribution)

Clearly, any form of guidance is not going to be appropriate for ever on specific issues. The gui...

Lord Bradley | 758 cc367-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his comprehensive reply on the new clause. The whole ...

Lord Bradley | 758 c368 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bradley

2: Clause 8, page 4, line 43, at end insert—

“( ) A statu...

Lord Bradley | 758 cc368-370 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 2, which is in my name and that of my noble friend Lord McAvoy, flows from th...

Lord German | 758 cc370-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have considerable sympathy with the amendment before us, not least because the chair ...

Baroness Drake | 758 cc371-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, for the purposes of all of today’s business on the Bill I refer to the interests which ...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 cc372-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I confirm to the House and to the noble Lord, Lord Bradley, that the measures under the...

Baroness Drake | 758 c374 (Link to this contribution)

I come back to the point on which I was seeking clarification. If the affirmative procedure is us...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 c374 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness will be aware that the negative procedure will still provide a measure of prot...

Baroness Drake | 758 c374 (Link to this contribution)

I push the point as a courtesy because I care about establishing collective benefit schemes. I am...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 c374 (Link to this contribution)

That would be an exceptional procedure. It is important for the industry and pensioners that we c...

Lord Bradley | 758 cc374-5 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his explanation, for his more wide-ranging response to the report of the...

Lord Bradley | 758 c375 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bradley

3: Clause 9, page 5, line 2, leave out “or managers”

Lord Bradley | 758 cc375-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the three amendments in this group stand in my name and in the name of my noble friend ...

Baroness Drake | 758 cc376-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to support and speak to Amendment 10 in particular. I expressed the view at Seco...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 cc378-9 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords who have participated in the debate on these amendments. The amendments in th...

Lord Bradley | 758 c379 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. I want to be absolutely clear on the point that he ...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 cc380-1 (Link to this contribution)

I shall deal with the second point first. As the Minister knows, there will be a contractual obli...

Lord Bradley | 758 c381 (Link to this contribution)

On Clause 37 and the Minister’s assurance of the robustness of the independent boards, why is he ...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 cc381-2 (Link to this contribution)

This is probably the main difference between the approaches of the Government and of the Oppositi...

Lord Bradley | 758 cc382-3 (Link to this contribution)

Once again, I am grateful to the Minister for the comprehensive nature of his reply. I am sure th...

Lord Bradley | 758 c383 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bradley

4: Clause 9, page 5, line 23, at end insert—

“( ) A statu...

Lord Bradley | 758 cc383-4 (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 4 stands in my name and in that of my noble friend Lord McAvoy. Again, it flows from th...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 cc384-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Bradley, for his comprehensive coverage of Clause 9. I sha...

Lord Bradley | 758 c385 (Link to this contribution)

Again, I am grateful to the Minister for his comments, and I welcome the fact that before Report ...

Lord McAvoy | 758 c385 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McAvoy

5: Clause 10, page 5, line 36, at end insert—

“( ) A statu...

Lord McAvoy | 758 cc385-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 5 and 6. They follow recommendations made by the Delegated ...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 cc386-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord McAvoy, for introducing the amendment. First, I confirm th...

Lord McAvoy | 758 cc387-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his lucid explanation of the clause and his response to my ame...

Lord Bradley | 758 c388 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bradley

7: After Clause 11, insert the following new Clause—

“Sca...

Lord Bradley | 758 cc388-9 (Link to this contribution)

The amendment is in my name and that of my good colleague, my noble friend Lord McAvoy, who will ...

Lord German | 758 c389 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I might pose a number of questions about this amendment. My noble friend the Minister or ...

Lord Bradley | 758 c390 (Link to this contribution)

If I might comment briefly, as the amendment says, any merger has to be in the best interests of ...

Baroness Drake | 758 cc390-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have sympathy with the thrust of my noble friend’s Amendment 7. Scale can be very imp...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 cc391-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have participated in the debate and I welcome the opening remar...

Lord Bradley | 758 cc392-3 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his response to the amendment and I welcome the comments made by the nob...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 c393 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate that the noble Lord was not intending to caricature my response and that I have cut ...

Lord Bradley | 758 c393 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for that clarification and I certainly was not intending to misquot...

Lord McAvoy | 758 c393 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McAvoy

8: Clause 14, page 6, line 29, leave out “may” and insert “must”...

Lord McAvoy | 758 cc393-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall also speak to Amendment 9. I do not have the reputation of having an unlimited ...

Baroness Drake | 758 cc394-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 8, which would require trustees or managers of a collective benefit...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 cc395-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords who participated in the debate on this amendment. The Bill sets out...

Lord McAvoy | 758 c397 (Link to this contribution)

It is probably just a bit run down, but there we are. I am grateful to the Minister for that very...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 c397 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. As I indicated, the consultation is not just with t...

Lord McAvoy | 758 c397 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that clarification, but I still think that, although obviously I do not know ho...

Lord Bradley | 758 c397 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bradley

11: Clause 21, page 9, line 3, leave out “may” and insert “must...

Lord Bradley | 758 cc397-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will not labour the points that we have already made regarding affirmative resolution...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 cc398-400 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord. I apologise that I keep referring to noble Lords oppos...

Lord Bradley | 758 c399 (Link to this contribution)

I am slightly confused. The Minister seems to be saying that there would never be a circumstance ...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 c399 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to confirm that. I believe that I indicated in response to an earlier amendment that t...

Lord Bradley | 758 c399 (Link to this contribution)

Again, I am grateful to the Minister for his response and clarification. From this side of the Co...

Lord McAvoy | 758 cc399-401 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McAvoy

13: Clause 25, page 10, line 35, at end insert—

“( ) A sta...

Lord McAvoy | 758 c401 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 25 gives the Secretary of State the power to require the trustees or managers of...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 cc401-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for moving this amendment. Clause 25 contains a power to require...

Lord McAvoy | 758 c402 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, once again I thank the Minister for a very full exposition of what was envisaged in the...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 c402 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth

14: Clause 27, page 11, line 20, leave out first ...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 cc402-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the package of amendments in this group falls neatly—I hope—into the category of minor ...

Lord Bradley | 758 c404 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister again for his explanation of the government amendments, which I acc...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 c404 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the noble Lord, and I commend the amendments to the House.

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 c404 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth

15: Clause 27, page 11, line 20, leave out “any s...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 c404 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth

17: Clause 32, page 12, line 35, after “document”...

Lord Bradley | 758 c405 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bradley

19: After Clause 35, insert the following new Clause—

“Co...

Lord Bradley | 758 cc405-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I draw attention to the wording of this amendment because I am sure that it will be wel...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 c406 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Bradley, for moving this amendment. I will say a little ab...

Lord Bradley | 758 cc406-7 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the Minister’s response to the request for an annual review. It was certainly not my in...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 758 c407 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth

21: Clause 37, page 14, line 40, leave out “instr...

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